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 Hammerloaf
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 Straw cultivation 
#536679 - 01/31/02 07:46 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it common for the fuzzy mycelium base of a fruit to encompass about half of a 4" tall fruit when using a OT Straw TEK casing?
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 mycofile
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Re: Straw cultivation [Re: Hammerloaf]
#536797 - 01/31/02 10:45 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Probably. The fuzzy mycelium base of fruits is more a product of the individual strain reacting to it's environmental parameters than it is a result of the substrate or tek. It's certainly nothing to worry about if the fuzz is the only symptom. If it does concern you, then I'd take a closer look at the environment.
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Re: Straw cultivation [Re: mycofile]
#537353 - 01/31/02 10:38 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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hmm.. how about fruit bodies splitting as they grow.. what does this mean?
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Re: Straw cultivation [Re: Hammerloaf]
#537581 - 02/01/02 07:29 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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splitting? Like caps splitting cuz it's too dry or like stems splitting cuz they look a little gnarled. Caps usually split due to lack of humidity. Stems can split and gnarl due to verticillium contamination and possibly a mushroom virus. Then again, sometimes shrooms just look funky.
Actually, the more I think about it, the more it sounds like Verticillium, AKA dry bubble. Does it sound like this?
Slightly infected mushrooms characterized by brown colored spots or streaks on the basal or upper regions of the stem and on caps of primordia....Afflicted mushrooms often bend toward the side that is infected...More mature but diseased mushrooms have a deformed pileus, sometimes with a "hair lip", and freuently with a downy grayish mycelium over the cap. The stem can be covered with a downy mycelium and often vertically splits, roughly resembling a peeled banana. The cap becomes disproportionately small relative to the fatter than normal stem. The overall texture of the mushroom is dry and leathery.
Symptoms specific to Verticilium on cubes, Caps frequently become plane at an early stage. The stem becomes swollen and hollow, narrowing radically towards the apex. Only in extreme humidity does downy mildew develp over cap.
promoted by excessive humidity combined with inadequate air circulation. often introduced into the growing environment via casing materials or soils.
Does that sound like what you got? Downy mycelium, split stems?
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Re: Straw cultivation [Re: mycofile]
#537742 - 02/01/02 11:24 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds exactly right. I guess I should toss the casing then.
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Re: Straw cultivation [Re: Hammerloaf]
#537907 - 02/01/02 03:07 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn, I was hoping you'd say it was wrong. Oh well. Verticillium isn't known to be pathogenic, so you shouldn't have to worry about going to the hospital like the dude a few days ago.
I don't know what your particular policy is regarding contamination, but if it's only a few shrooms, you might be able to halt it by lowering humidity and increasing air circulation. Then again, you might just spread it to anything else in the area. I guess it depends how much effort you have invested... I'd toss it. 
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Re: Straw cultivation [Re: mycofile]
#539434 - 02/03/02 04:08 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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hmm.. is it common for one of the fruits to be afflicted, and others to not be? only 1 large fruit was mutated, and another grew almost picture perfect... there were on opposite sides of the casing however.
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Re: Straw cultivation [Re: Hammerloaf]
#539641 - 02/03/02 08:30 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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This one I'm a little unsure of, but feel that verticilium is to blame. I had some others show slight symptoms such as streaks in stems, caps pointng down etc. Only two came out this twisted. Everything was harvested, (I ate the one pictured above!) I sprayed the casing with a h202 solution (which I don't put much stock in...) I sprayed to casing the terrerium etc. Set up a fan, and let the casing air out over a 24 hr period, rehydrating the casings periodically. Never saww anymore for a wile.
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Edited by mycofile (02/03/02 08:34 PM)
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