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#537289 - 01/31/02 09:28 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Folks try to say there is no such thing as Satan worship and human sacrifice, and if there is it's not related. Well here's proof it exists:
http://www.thisislondon.com/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=494741&in_review_text_id=454351
Satanists jailed over ritual killing
A couple who killed a friend by stabbing him 66 times in a Satanic ritual were jailed today in a case that has fascinated Germany with bizarre details of devil worship and vampirism.
Daniel Ruda, a 26-year-old former car parts salesman, and his 23-year-old wife Manuela had confessed to the killing in their apartment, surrounded by human skulls, cemetery lights, scalpels and incense.
They have shown no remorse, saying the devil ordered them to send him a human sacrifice because he wanted a "court jester".
A judge in the western town of Bochum sentenced Daniel to 15 years and Manuela 13 years in a psychiatric ward.
The court heard how Manuela acquired a taste for vampirism during a visit to London, where she attended "bite parties" at which people voluntarily had blood sucked from their veins.
Throughout the case, the couple shown defiant behaviour in court, making rude gestures, rolling their eyes maniacally and sticking their tongues out.
Manuela, a former high school student who said she drifted into the "Gothic" scene after the devil contacted her when she was 14, slept in a coffin in their apartment.
She met Daniel after responding to his advertisement in a heavy metal magazine that read: "Pitch black vampire seeks princess of darkness who hates everything and everyone."
The dead man, a 33-year-old colleague of Daniel Ruda's, was found in the couple's apartment covered in knife wounds and with a scalpel protruding from his stomach. A pentagram, the sign of the Devil, had been carved into his chest.
The couple spent a week on the run after the murder last July, driving around Germany and attempting suicide several times.
They were arrested after being spotted at a petrol station in Jena.
During that week Daniel had bought a chainsaw, saying he did not want to be empty-handed when the Devil called again.
The court heard during the trial how the two had launched themselves into a world of devil worship, inciting each other to commit violence.
Daniel said he had merely been a tool of the devil. "If you run someone over with a car, you don't prosecute the car," he said at one point.
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 Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]
#537986 - 02/01/02 04:53 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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interesting...
Somehow, I find the devil to be very interesting. Not that I want to serve him or anything, don't get me wrong, I worship Christ, but Satan is, well, a most interesting character.
Maybe it has to do with how God created him, or maybe it's natural for me to pay attention to an adversary, maybe both.
Anyhoo, I'm looking forward to Armagedon, as it promises to resolve this evil thingy...
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 Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]
#538125 - 02/01/02 08:42 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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what a fkn hilarious article
`Manuela, a former high school student` wtf? a former high school student?
and how can one be sentenced to X number of years in a psych ward, you either get prison or get declared insane, if insane you go in until cured, there is no time limit.
and they had cemetery lights in their apartment....what the fuck are cemetery lights? are they like blob-lamps? and incense? sooo evil
a pentagram is not a symbol of the devil.
and they spent a week on the run attempting suicide several times?? c`mon its not that difficult to top yourself. maybe the reporter (if thats not too generous a description for the fool that wrote this) means they drove over the speed limit without wearing seatbelts, or perhaps they drank cocacola mixed with aspirin?
thanks rail-gun..made my day
dont forget isiah 45:7 `i create the light and form the darkness...i, the lord, do all these things.`
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]
#538155 - 02/01/02 09:29 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Once again most popular myth has it wrong.
The Christian leaders have frequently and deliberately misportrayed other religions to their own advantage.
For example: Witchcraft and Satanic Worship are often paired together, though one has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the other, nor with the devil for that matter.
Set was an Egyptian god, whose Priesthood can be traced to predynastic times. Images of Set have been dated to around 3200 BCE, with astronomically-based estimates of inscriptions dating to 5000 BCE.
A worshipper of Set was a Setan or Satan. Thus, a Satan worshipper is actually redundant.
Witchcraft pertains to the Wiccan religion whose roots are in northern and central Europe and pre-date history. It was very earth-based, into herbal healings, people and plant fertility and the celebration of seasonal changes (solstices and equinoxes).
The Catholic Church wanted no competition from these other practices and so launched a highly effective propaganda campaign against them that lasts till this day. Of course, they (in their Christ-like loving manner) helped matters along with torture and fear to ensure that the masses converted and stayed in line.
Case in point:
In Palo Alto, CA a few years back, the local library frequently brought in speakers of different religions to expose children to the variety of theological ideas. There was a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Muslim, etc. But when a Wiccan (witch) was scheduled to appear, the whole town got up in arms and she was banned from speaking.
Yes, a highly effective campaign.
Ask me again why I am so outspoken against non-critical thinking...
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Swami]
#538282 - 02/02/02 01:13 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Swami do you know of any decent web pages with basic history and stuff about the religions of ancient egypt? i'm travelling a lot these days so i'm too lazy to look for books...
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 Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]
#538412 - 02/02/02 07:29 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was once killed by satanist
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a witch turned me into a newt...I got better...
But seriously dude, I know a guy who goes to this one church ( where I met him ) and every Halloween for years he was abducted and ritually abused physically and sexually by a group of satanist.
A woman in my present church was used in ritual (satanic)abuse and had her genitals cut up when she was a kid.
I also knew a satanist who did not do these things and have know several wiccans who are appalled by this sort of thing and would never do anything other than healing.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Traveller]
#538447 - 02/02/02 08:59 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Too lazy to use a search engine? Doesn't get much easier than that.
No, I have no cool pages bookmarked.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Swami]
#538646 - 02/02/02 02:25 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Monotheists confuse me the most out of any group of belief,this shit harks back to the 3 million kids abducted every year "Stranger Danger" stuff.Theres no vast satanic conspiracy.Oh fear the illuminati the counsel of 13 eats your soul.Man some people are so paranoid.One lone whacko doesn't constitute a group of believers.Anyway,I'm an atheist.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Swami]
#538774 - 02/02/02 05:37 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow, that's really interesting Swami.
So that means that Satan or the devil as an evil entity is a construct of the church to scare people away from other religions. I think all dualism (good vs evil, etc) is a product of fear, and power-driven people exploit this. We still see this today with George W's "either you're with us, or with the terrorists." In reality everything is graded, not lumped into two mutually exclusive and polarized categories. We need to step back from our categorizing (nothing more than a desire for order and control) and treat everything how it really is.
Silly, silly dualism.
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 Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Swami]
#538818 - 02/02/02 07:00 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Witchcraft pertains to the Wiccan religion whose roots are in northern and central Europe and pre-date history. It was very earth-based, into herbal healings, people and plant fertility and the celebration of seasonal changes (solstices and equinoxes).
Wicca is not the same as traditional witchcraft. Wicca is a recent invention made up by some guy in the 40's or 50's. If you'de like a source for this info I can get one for you.
Wicca is a recent development and not the same as ancient or medival witchcraft.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]
#538843 - 02/02/02 07:36 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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I will rely on your knowledge as regards the word Wicca, but my point remains.
The Catholic Chruch merged an Egyptian religion with that of a northern European religion in the minds of it's followers, though they were totally unrelated, and portrayed them both as evil, to win converts.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: skaMariaPastora]
#538850 - 02/02/02 07:50 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Swami as always has it one-sided. He would have it that God is _also_ a product of church exorting control over the masses. In a way he is right. In other ways, mystical traditions over centuries have described evil spirits of all sorts, and Satan is a prominent figure in multiple religeons (under different names, some linguistically related -- Shaitan, for example -- and some not).
I personally have known satanists. They are a real group of people who consciously choose to serve "evil". Clearly, they must invent evil before they serve it. They aren't very pleasant people. Ones I knew were very good psychologists, keen in subjects like hypnosis, extrasensorics, etc. Some are said to be strong psychics, capable of controling other minds. It is said that they learn these things during satanic rituals and happenings. Why not? Satanic rituals are, generally speaking, very stressful. They put the mind in unusual states, kind of like shrooms. There is much knowledge that can be gotten from that by a capable mind.
As far as Satan goes... everyone has a face and an ass. To some God shows one, to others -- the other... No miracle here (as Swami always says) 
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]
#538853 - 02/02/02 07:53 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Of course there are some satanists who do that kind of stuff. There is also many other people who stab others. Not all satanists do though, because my friend used to be one, and he is totally against violence. I was reading a satanist page, and some of the stuff on it was really good, and true.
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All of this is entirely dependant upon an individuals view of Satan, or whichever similar character. To many, Satan was merely an aquaintence (I can't remember what order he belonged to) of God who refused to worship humans. For this he was cast out of heaven. After that the path forks, some say he commited atrocious acts of evil, others say he was framed, or that the acts were only metaphors blown out of proportion. This is of course only one of many paths that a worshipper might follow...
It's the same thing in the God circles. The Catholic style churches say that Heaven and Hell are real and take things very seriously. On the other hand; the United Church says that the Heaven sides of things are all true, but there is no such thing as Hell. All the negative things are explained as metaphors and whatnot. I go to heaven, Charles Manson goes to heaven, Bush and bin Laden go to heaven. We're all equal in his sight... That kind of thing.
Satan and God cannot come and speak for themselves and tell us what exactly their supporters are supporting, so we have to guess. We're basically shooting in the dark. I try to avoid the whole ordeal.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ulysees]
#539572 - 02/03/02 07:26 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just can't get over the defence these people used... "The devil made me do it!"
Like... how do they come up with this? I guess they read Genesis and skip out on the free will section and focus only on the temptation of Eve... that must have been demeaning for the defence lawyer...
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: mr crisper]
#539590 - 02/03/02 07:45 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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>>>and how can one be sentenced to X number of years in a psych ward, you either get prison or get declared insane, if insane you go in until cured, there is no time limit.
I guess in Germany you can be sentenced to a specific number of years in a psych hospital.
>>>>a pentagram is not a symbol of the devil.
I think an upside down pentgram is a symbol of Satanism, it's called a baphomet and they put a devil head in it. Do a search on 'baphomet' and 'pentagram' you'll quickly see what I mean.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]
#539601 - 02/03/02 07:55 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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actually the upside down pentagram is used for other things...
i remember reading one thing about sexual energy, forgot everything else.
http://www.angelfire.com/id/robpurvis/pentagram.html
this might be a lousy link, i only skimmed it.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Anonymous]
#539640 - 02/03/02 08:30 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey smack
sorry to be so lazy
this is copy/pasted from the site you posted
-The pentagram may be inverted with one point down. The implication is of spirit subservient to matter, of man subservient to his carnal desires. The inverted pentagram has come to be seen by many pagans as representing the dark side and it is abhored as an evil symbol. Fundamental christians, indeed, see any form of pentagram as such. However, these are recent developments and the inverted pentagram is the symbol of Gardnerian second degree initiation, representing the need of the witch to learn to face the darkness within so that it may not later rise up to take control. The centre of a pentagram implies a sixth formative element - love/will which controls from within, ruling matter and spirit by Will and the controlled magickal direction of sexual energies. This is another lesson of initiation
gardner, as mentioned, is the founder of wicca, a modern day interpretation of what was traditionally called the craft.
i know a lot of so-called satanists use the inverted pentagram as a symbol of their beliefs, perhaps they just focus on the certain aspects of its meaning that correspond to or support their intentions, christians do much the same thing with the cross, a symbol that dates back, in various forms at least to the egyptian days.
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#539645 - 02/03/02 08:35 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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The pentagram is a symbol of Satan as well being generally occult. The 'Chruch of Satan' has a web page devoted to it.
From: http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/BaphometGallery.html
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 Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: skaMariaPastora]
#539647 - 02/03/02 08:37 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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re:Silly, silly dualism
fer sure, but wouldnt life be boring....or even non-existant, without it.
how could we have up and down, left and right, positive and negative, boys and girls, not to mention the old fave - in and out?
silly, mmm maybe, fun? definitely!
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]
#539649 - 02/03/02 08:39 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'm not denying that it is used by satanists... this is usually the first thing people associate with it. but it also has other uses.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: gribochek]
#539679 - 02/03/02 09:26 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Swami as always has it one-sided. He would have it that God is _also_ a product of church exorting control over the masses.
Don't do that, Grib. Those are your words, not mine. I merely gave a little history of how two disparate religions came to be associated with each other and with evil through the clever use of propaganda.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Swami]
#539724 - 02/03/02 10:22 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Annoying, isn't it?
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Swami]
#539788 - 02/03/02 11:42 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Swami, either you accept the possibility of the ultimate good or the divine God, and then accept the possibility of ultimate evil or the feroscious devil, or you deny both. You can't say "God is possible but devil is the result of propaganda".
The viewpoint that God has been invented to control the masses has very very much validity to it. But this view, as well as the similar opinion regarding the devil is one-sided in that it implies that God (Devil) are _solely_ the product of propaganda and no further exploration into these matters are thus necessary. But anyway, sorry if I misread you.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]
#540017 - 02/04/02 05:45 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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The inverted pentagram is a symbol of second degree Alexandrian witchcraft (see Stewart Ferrar's book 'What Witches Do'). The Baphomet, though adopted by the late Anton Szandor LeVey and his 'Church of Satan in the 1960's, was adapted from the whole medieval scandal concerning the Knights Templar - the crusaders returning from the Middle East. Their exposure to the teachings of 'Mohatmedans' somehow the spelling/name got bastardized to 'Baphomet,' and the worship of a goat's head (a typical witchcraft image). The Church tortured their own warriors, for whereabouts of treasure, and of course accused them of heresy. That evil of the Church may have become symbol enough for LaVey, along with the Hebrew inscription "Leviathan," around it - serpent of the watery abyss.
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#540304 - 02/04/02 01:38 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think dualism is the root of all evil. If you would want to get rid of "evil" you would have to get rid of "good". There's always an idiot running around with voices in his/her head telling him or her to kill.
Satan doesn't have the exclusive right to ritual sacrifice. Look a bit into the history of South America for instance.
An interesting article about the origins of Satan:
http://www.phhine.ndirect.co.uk/archives/sp_orsatan.htm
And one about black magick:
http://www.phhine.ndirect.co.uk/archives/ess_bmlhp.htm
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: raytrace]
#540399 - 02/04/02 03:36 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am inclined to give another description of devil, which looks less like Al Pacino
What if being a dragon would be the same as eating your own tail?
What if existence were impossible without inherent contradictions?
What if laughter had an emotion opposite to it?
What if there was a fire that consumed everything? What if that fire was the entrance to heaven? Who would then enter heaven?
If one puts on the mask of suffering, the inside of that mask is the face of the Devil.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: mr crisper]
#540864 - 02/05/02 12:48 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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i didnt read all these posts, so i dont know if this has already been covered. but a friend of mine is a witch and really into ocultism.
he's read about almost every religion(including the entire bible twice WOW!)
and this is what he says about TRUE satanism, and the true church of satan.
apparently real satanists, dont worship a "satan" in the traditional since, its all a huge metaphor to being against christianity e.i. christians say alot of things are sin, and you should be ashamed to do certain things, wheras satanist are primarily concerend with satisfying all primal urges(sex, lust, food, pleasure) since in christianity "satan" is evil, they say they worship it to totally dissasociate themselves from christians. Actually, acording to the satanic bible(where he read this all) satanists dont believe in god, or satan. like i said its a metaphor.
they merely believe in satifying your natural human nature, on top of that, they preach not "loving" everyone, they say its a waste of your love and energy. they say love your family and friends, and people you care about. but everyone else just be nice to and friendly.(this oddly enough is something in common with christianaty, because christians dont truley "love" everyone like they are taught to do, therefore making them hyprcrites on a large scale, or heathens in their own religion, not all but most) this is basically all i know, i know that TRUE satanists dont sacrifice animals or any of that shit.
all that vampire/sacrifice the goat stuff is a direct result of sterotypical movies and media, originally designed to keep people scared and hateful of satanists, ironiclly enough it totally backfired as it picked up speed in modern media, and underground scenes. since you see alot of moronic teen agers taking this type of portrayel as a green light to have a cause for their sick curiosities....
with all that said, I am an agnostic till further notice.
BTW did you know maralyn monroe, and sammy davis junior were both ordained members of the church of satan? its true.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
#540871 - 02/05/02 12:56 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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BTW i forgot to mention, there are branched off sects of the church of satan, be all of these that involve violence, are condemmed by the original founding church of satan. these sects are probably confused about the true meaning, and cant get past the christian belief they were ingrained with(and probably rebelling against) so they still relate satanism with evil, and therefore do things publicly thought of as evil, or something....
and that thing with the pentagrams, acording to my same friend(who loves marilyn manson for some reason, his music taste has always been shit) marilyn manson was kicked out of the church of satan for wearing a pentagram necklace. i'm pretty positive that the pentagram is the symble for the church of satan, but wearing one is atomatic cause for being barred from the church.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
#540883 - 02/05/02 01:16 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Swami, either you accept the possibility of the ultimate good or the divine God, and then accept the possibility of ultimate evil or the feroscious devil, or you deny both. You can't say "God is possible but devil is the result of propaganda"
in reply to the above statement is say, i think the view of if theres good there HAS to be evil, and vice versa. its nothing more than a preconcieved believe ingrained into humans minds for hundreds of years.
we are one with god, and god is all there is. if god is all there is, how can there be anything else?
The message of christianity: firey hell awaits you if you question gods UNCONDITIONAL love.......
whatever.....
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]
#542433 - 02/06/02 11:45 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok true satanists will never kill another person without their consent, these human sacrifices you hear of those are christian satanists, not members of the church of satan, the inverted pentagram with the goat's head in it is called a baphomet, this represents satan.
satan means adversary or opponent, satanism preaches that truth will never set anyone free, but that only perpetual doubt will, satan represents indulgence in the "sins" (not compulsion) as they all lead to emotional or physical gratification, satan represents kindness to those that deserve it, and hate to those that deserve it, not love wasted on ingrates, satanism is a logical intelligent philosophy, almost everything you will ever read about satanism is a lie, go direct to the source, the satanic bible and the devil's notebook will show you how to live a satanic life
evil is coined as what you dont like, good as what you like, evil is live spelled backwards, if evil we are then live we will!
on a side note, according to the bible 'jesus christ' called himself the morning star which just happens to mean lucifer, the fallen angel, divinity in human form....
also the baphomet is not complete without those symbols around it at each point, they mean leviathan one of the four crown princes of hell, leviathan is water, lucifer is air or enlightenment, belial is earth which stands for mastery of carnality or baseness, and satan is fire
the word devil come from the indian word devi which means god, i think, i dont have my bible handy so some of this may be off a bit.
ave satanis!
rege satanas!
SHEMHEMFORASH!!
hail satan!!!
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: insectvhore]
#542447 - 02/06/02 11:58 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey, thanks for the info, interesting.
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Lord_A]
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what does santani ave or ave santani? thats in a fantomas song i heard
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Ellis Dee]  1
#543655 - 02/07/02 11:54 AM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not to offend any of you guys religiously, but my view as a "Psychedelic" Wiccan:
If you were to take all the Gods and all the Demons the world has worshipped & feared and project them over each other, this total picture would be an approximation of what I believe is the One. (Wicca has a Sun God & Moon Goddess but this is meant, in my opinion, as a symbol; a way to percieve the Divine. Note: Both are "Good" AND "Evil", if one were to fall in the pitfall of imposing this distinction on the Universe)
Take everything that ever was, is or shall be and combine it with everything that could be, happen etc. and let this Totality of Everything flow into One.
If one could grasp this one would look at the True Face of God.
Ponder this: you'll be surprised at what you'll find !
I won't spoil the surprise for you...!
And as to Pentacles: If a Pentacle were satanic, the Swastika was invented by that one-testicled man they call Hitler. (Dunno? No on both!)
Since so called "satanism" sprang from the Bible (No JHVH = No Satan) and extremely old carved Pentacles exist one can say with certainty that the Pentacle predates Satan by well over 5.000 years.
And as for satanism itself I'll quote from Christianity & Wicca:
YOU WILL REAP WHAT YOU SOW.
WHAT YOU SEND OUT FROM THEE COMES BACK TO YOU TIMES THREE.
Boy: are these guys in for a Treat!
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Re: Satan worship & Human Sacrifice [Re: Asante]
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the baphomet or pentacle as wiccan seeker likes to call it...? was i think first used around 1476 i think, the swastika is a symbol either buddhist or hindu i cant remember it means life or becoming,
ave satanis rege satanis and shemhemforash all mean HAIL SATAN,
johnny on the spot are you a dwarves fan? beyond the human race he came from outer space just to cum upon your face began to shake it loose that sonic reproducer just like medussa only hot, johnny on the spot
wiccan seeker if you were to combine all into one there would be nothing, with no other things to base existence on all existence collapses there IS nothing, but we see it through divisions and varying degrees of density, but all in all there really isnt anything, existence does not exist
BBin where the hell are you?
im reading upwards now and i see markos already covered much of what ive said, no matter
someone said we are all of god, and god is all there is, well why call it god? why externalize...
"you are all I i am all YOU", though to best say what i meant in that last statement i wouldn't say anything
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