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Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright?
#5372791 - 03/06/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey =0)
First, quick background: Over the past year or so I've experimented with growing/consuming mushrooms on an occasional basis. The highest dose I've taken was about 1.75g dry, and I've had several smaller doses. I've had one bad trip on a gram, and I consider myself to have a good feel for mushrooms and how to handle them.
Now, my girlfriend has never done any drugs of any sort, but she has been really interested in trying mushrooms lately. This is great, but I'm a bit worried. Throughout her entire life she's experienced mild visual symptoms that are similar to synptoms that people with HPPD have. She gets the occasional tunnel vision, where she will be talking to someone and all she will see is their head; she also gets macroscopia/microscopia a few times a week, in which she percieves people and things as being considerably larger/smaller than she is. This stuff doesn't bother her, and it's just always been part of life...something she's perfectly accepting of.
From what I've read, it seems as though only certain people are subject to getting HPPD, and my girlfriend seems like someone who would be extra succeptable to getting HPPD because of her already-present visual issues.
I've explained all of this to her, and expressed my worry, but she is still set on trying mushrooms.
So I was wondering if anyone here would have some input on the situation...maybe whether or not I should be worrying so much about HPPD.
I would love to trip with my girl, but at the same time, if anything happened to her as a result of mushrooms, I would feel responsible and guilty, seeing as how I am the one who sparked her interest in trying the fungus, and I would probably be tripping with her the first time she did them. ((If we end up doing this she'll be taking about a 1.5g dose, and I will be taking about 1 or 1.25g)).
Any input would be great...
Thanks =0)
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: Cakes]
#5372836 - 03/06/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If shes set on doing it, give her a very small dose, but in my experience it could either be very enjoyable or it could be a very very bad experience for her.
Thats one of the toss ups of mushrooms, especially with people who have uncommon conditions like she has, it just hasn't been studied or widely experienced.
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5372857 - 03/06/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I guess it really depends on the potency of the mushrooms, but a 1.5 gram dose for me has very moderate effects. Basically a nice body buzz and no visuals. I would say go for it but just make sure she does a smaller dose then you. If she is doing fine give her some more. Have you tried these particular mushrooms? How potent are they? That is what I would base it on. -helge
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5372860 - 03/06/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd guide her through it with you sober the first time.
For her, just knowing that you're in a sane mind will help her out if things go south. If she gets to thinking that you're just as flipped out as she is, you won't be of nearly as much help. From experience, I'd say it is a great bonding experience if both of you do it. But if she doesn't do drugs at all, take it one step at a time.
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5372872 - 03/06/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, you wouldn't be much help to her while flipping out on mushrooms... It all depends on what you can handle. If it were me I would take a very low dose just to get feeling real good, but so that I would be straight enough to know how to control a given situation. -Helge
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: Helge]
#5372893 - 03/06/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Gehhhh I hate to wait to trip with her, but I think you guys are right...I should be sober or near sober while she is tripping.
No one has really commented about possible HPPD though...and I'm pretty worried about it..
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: Helge]
#5372911 - 03/06/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, what I meant was that it isn't just a matter of if you can control the situation. It's a matter of her KNOWING you can because you're totally sober. This is just from personal experience though, every situation will be different. I just found that it is hard to get people to place trust in you that they do when you're 100% sober.
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: Cakes]
#5372913 - 03/06/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If it is something that she has had all of her life and is comfortable with it I don't think it would make that much of a difference. Like I said, only give her a small dose,--A good body buzz-- It will be like ecstasy. she will love it! If all goes fine after an hour or so give her a little more. Everyone has different reactions, there is no telling if her HPPD is going to cause problems.. Consider this trial run, you never want to go balls into something you have never taken before--especially hallucinogens! -Helge
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: Helge]
#5372927 - 03/06/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You could also wait an hour so she is well into the experience, and then dose. I dont think this would be a problem...
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5372936 - 03/06/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't know too much about HPPD, it should actually help the mushrooms in the visuals department, its nothing more than a sensory disorder, so I don't think it will cause anything too devastating on the psyche. Its a very sensitive situation, but I think she will be fine.
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5373291 - 03/07/06 03:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know how it goes, kerbe... my gf's probably got HPPD, she has a lot of random problems like that and used to use drugs religiously. I think she's getting re-interested in shrooms because of me and I'd hate for them to fuck her up.
I'm sure you're eager to trip with her and I can understand that, believe me. Ask yourself if you really want her to shroom because you think it'll make her happy, or if it's because you want someone to trip with. If you love her, all will go well and you'll make the decision that's best for her.
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: supersapien]
#5373487 - 03/07/06 08:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Everything I've read about HPPD seems to point to the conclusion that it's not necessarily dangerous, just inconvenient... If she's learned to live with visual distortions throughout her day to day life then I don't see what a few more are really gonna do...
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: StickyWater]
#5373494 - 03/07/06 08:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mushrooms wouldn't mess her up. They'll probably help. Let her take first, sit with her, and if she's ok, which I'm almost convinced she will, take some mushrooms too.
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#5373552 - 03/07/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If your girlfriend has never done any hallucinogens by definition she could not have HPPD. Don't worry about it. It is more commonly caused by acid or 2-ci anyway AFAIK. Has she been to a doctor for her symptoms? I'd be more worried about exacerbating some pre-existing psychosis than HPPD.
Edited by abrad84 (03/07/06 08:49 AM)
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: supersapien]
#5374182 - 03/07/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
abrad84 If your girlfriend has never done any hallucinogens by definition she could not have HPPD. Don't worry about it. It is more commonly caused by acid or 2-ci anyway AFAIK. Has she been to a doctor for her symptoms? I'd be more worried about exacerbating some pre-existing psychosis than HPPD.
Yeah, I know she doesn't/can't have HPPD. I'm worried about the same thing you are...that the trip could bring out more problems.
Thanks for the replies, everyone. I think what we will end up doing is having her dose about .75g, and I will start off sober. If, after a while, she is comfortable and doing well, I will consider dosing a small amount, probably about .5g...just to at least partially share the experience with her.
I'm hoping that with such a small dose, nothing bad will come out of this, and she will be able to more comfortably take larger doses in the future.
Have a day =0)
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Re: Shrooming with girlfriend...will we be alright? [Re: Cakes]
#5374516 - 03/07/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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sounds like a good plan...on .5 g I could easily deal with taking care of someone their first time.
good luck to both of you and have fun!
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