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Fuck Shultz Perlite!!!
    #5372635 - 03/06/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i have my foot in my mouth right now.

i always, ALWAYS bought Perlite in 4-Cubic Foot bags from the local nurseries - to use for humdifying my terrariums.

i've since given up perlite tubs.
however, i decided i wanted to keep a tub or two of cakes for the sole purpose of getting awesome prints and headstash shrooms.

(say what you want, but IMO the prettiest boomers come off cakes)

so, in a pinch, in the middle of the night... the only place to get Perlite is goddamn-motherfucking-suck-my-balls-corporate-fuck Wal-M**t...

i used to get Shultz Perlite back in the day (when i didn't NEED perlite in HUGE HUGE quantities) and never had a problem with it, other than the higher than normal price...

so i went out and grabbed a couple bags.

now, correct me if i'm wrong, but when it says:

"INGREDIENT: PERLITE"

one would expect JUST THAT.
so WHY, oh WHY does every bag have traces/chunks of potting soil in them?!?

seriously.
i even went back to that piece of shit run-the-country-conglomerate place JUST to SPITEFULLY open (yeah, tore em open) bag after bag (ok, so i was kinda drunk) of Shultz Perlite to find that they were all the same.

what is the deal?
why are they doing this?
am i just super paranoid, or are they fucking with us?

it makes me sad. seriously. especially since Shultz is from STL (St. Louis, MO)

i LOVE STL.
all kindsa good shit comes from STL...
Budweiser
the Cardinals (when they still had Ozzie Smith)
the Arch
Me (yup)

i just wanted to warn those of you who are still buying Perlite.
if you're in a pinch, so be it.
but if you can wait, go to your local nursery or hydroponics supply and get High-grade Horticultural (extra coarse) perlite.

end of drunken tangent.
back to work.
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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: krill]
    #5372763 - 03/06/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

**Claps hands in awe of the rant**


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5372846 - 03/06/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Damn dude!!! Fuck it up!!!


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5372853 - 03/06/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm I have had soil looking dark things in every bag of perlite I get no matter what the brand is, maybe you havent been looking to hard until now.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: mikeownow]
    #5372995 - 03/06/06 11:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i dont know what you're experiencing but i just bought a bag of schultz perlite today and there was no chunks of anything but perlite.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: coda]
    #5373216 - 03/07/06 01:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I've got a 4cf.ft. bag of Therm-o-rock Perlite and it's got nothing but white perlite. Sorry to hear about the trouble you're getting.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: figment]
    #5373237 - 03/07/06 01:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Those Basterds!! :thumbdown:


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: alsnow469]
    #5373285 - 03/07/06 03:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

um... seriously.
Coda... up untl now, i woulda been with you on this.
i NEVER had this kinda problem.
but these (this season) bags of perlite are not what they used to be.
i'm used to WHITE, DUSTY (as in needing a dust mask, or die from inhalation) Perlite. never had a compalaint in my 6+ years of using Perlite. And I STARTED OFF with the readily available Shultz Perlite... but now, its not the same.

this is nothing more than a rant and a warning.

Honestly, i would LOVE to know if anyone else has this problem this season.

like i said... i USUALLY go for the bulk quantity perlite from the nusery. but since i'm moving everything into my Martha i haven't needed it.

either Shultz had a bad day/week/month... or "They" are fucking with us.

to further my point:
where i live, they have pulled 1/2 pint wide mouth jars from the shelves. my bro has been bringing them down from my hometown...

coincidince?
i'm glad i'm moving away from the traditional homegrow (1991+ teks)
from now on, its WBS-Poo-LC for me.

i feel HORRIBLE for the peeps that are just now taking up this research/hobby.

not to mention, Kerr has altered the shape of their jars.
and, yes, i have proof.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: krill]
    #5373292 - 03/07/06 03:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

and like i said...

i never have trouble with the 4 Cu-Ft. bags of Bulk Perlite from the Nursery (regardless of brand)

i'm talking about the little 8-Quart bags.

i KNOW where to get GOOD perlite.
i simply was working in the middle of the night and Wally-Fuck-World was my ONLY choice.

"this is a warning"


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: krill]
    #5373458 - 03/07/06 07:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I picked up some normal schultz perlite from those Walmart bastards the other week.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5373543 - 03/07/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i found chunks in my schultz perlite. didnt seem to be a problem though...


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: weedpreference]
    #5373655 - 03/07/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm glad I never used perlite in mush cult.

Went straight to grain spawn, to bulk substrates, cased. :thumbup:


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: krill]
    #5373665 - 03/07/06 09:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

krill said:
i simply was working in the middle of the night and Wally-Fuck-World was my ONLY choice.




Fuck Wal-M**T. My sentiments exactly. I'll drive right by WM, and an extra 20 minutes, just to go to Lowes or Home Depot. I don't/won't support monopolization of our capitalist system.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: Premedman1]
    #5373672 - 03/07/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yet you still shop at home depot or lowes, the hardware equivalent with walmart.... yah.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: coda]
    #5373787 - 03/07/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, that's what I said. They are not, nor have they ever been owned by the Walton family. I have also worked for that company, and have seen the internal "brainwashing" they attempt on their employees. It's just my PREFERENCE not to shop there if I can help it, which is a view shared by others on this site and elsewhere...yah.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: coda]
    #5373796 - 03/07/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

HAHA, I get a kick out of the fact you were tearing bags of perlite open in a dunken rampage :rockon:. I baught a bag of Shultz about 2 weeks ago but haven't opened it yet. I might be doing the same if I get the same results.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: Premedman1]
    #5374101 - 03/07/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Yes, that's what I said. They are not, nor have they ever been owned by the Walton family. I have also worked for that company, and have seen the internal "brainwashing" they attempt on their employees. It's just my PREFERENCE not to shop there if I can help it, which is a view shared by others on this site and elsewhere...yah.




thats cool but you still are a hypocrite.

You cant say: "I don't/won't support monopolization of our capitalist system." and shop at lowes or home depot. A major corp is a major corp regardless if its owned by the walton family. Lowes and Home Depot have done their fair share of shady shit too, i wont even begin on how many mom and pop hardware shops have shut down because of their presence in towns.

Point is you cant hate on wal mart and embrace other major stores like lowes or home depot. BTW i know all about wal mart mentality, i know the VP of human resources personally and believe me that mans business ethics are cleaner then christ's. Shady shit goes on everywhere, enron, merryl lynch, microsoft... wal mart is just a convienent target since its so accessible by everyone.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: coda]
    #5374211 - 03/07/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Here here!


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: coda]
    #5374219 - 03/07/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

coda said:
yet you still shop at home depot or lowes, the hardware equivalent with walmart.... yah.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5374266 - 03/07/06 01:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'd support Home Depot and Lowes over Walmart anyday.

That store is a fucking jungle but coda is right on everything he said. Back to topic, I love shultz products from their vermiculite to the potting soil to the perlite. Never had a bad item from them, probably never will.

Seems like you just got a one in a million fucked up item. Brother in law once opened a back of Oke Doke popcorn and found a fucking razorblade in it. A RAZORBLADE com'n what if a kid ate that shit lol.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: Atheist]
    #5374574 - 03/07/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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I'd support Home Depot and Lowes over Walmart anyday.

That store is a fucking jungle but coda is right on everything he said. Back to topic, I love shultz products from their vermiculite to the potting soil to the perlite. Never had a bad item from them, probably never will.

Seems like you just got a one in a million fucked up item. Brother in law once opened a back of Oke Doke popcorn and found a fucking razorblade in it. A RAZORBLADE com'n what if a kid ate that shit lol.




surely you caught the "tearing open bags of Perlite in a Drunken Rampage" part...
yeah, it's funny - but i REALLY did that.
also, like i said - i used to stand by Shultz *especially since they're from STL*
i never had any problems either...  but NOW, they are either having "technical difficulties", they've put out a MONSTROUS bad batch, or they just lowered the quality of their Perlite. i'm not saying ANYTHING about the rest of their products...
but i must've ripped thru 6 or 7 bags. all had varying degrees of potting soil (peat, twigs, and even little time-release fertlizer bb's)
i DID find a bag with a MINIMAL amount of shit in it, but most were so infested the Perlite was actually brownish gray.
i'd post a pic (i still have the initial bag that started this) but my Girl and i have come to an agreement that i wont use the computer to post any pics of my hobby - or, "research" if you will.

all i'm saying is - if you still need or use Perlite - go get it from the Nursery or Hydro-Suupply in BULK. it's of MUCH higher quality and cheaper per cubic-ft.

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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! *DELETED* [Re: Premedman1]
    #5374650 - 03/07/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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    #5374690 - 03/07/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: srgtm1a]
    #5374699 - 03/07/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hippie Chick said
"I won't buy anything from Wal-Mart . But I will take advantage of their free loan program, LMAO."

FREE LOAN PROGRAM?!?
SAAAAAYY  WHAAAAAAAAT????

you couldn't be referring to the fact that they leave HUGE, VAST amounts of supplies outside in the spring/summer, could you??? :grin:


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: HippieChick]
    #5374711 - 03/07/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

my shultz was fine when i got it last week, but i have seen the stuff with dirt in it. that sucks bad.

hey krill, what are you warning him about???


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: krill]
    #5374714 - 03/07/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I think she's talking about their loose return policies.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: Premedman1]
    #5374731 - 03/07/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I think she's talking about their loose return policies.




much understood, indeed.
in fact, i guess i should be thanking ol' Walton for my new 23 Qt. PC...  traded in my 5 year old presto. all i'll say is those dumb bastards dont know the difference between a heavily used 5 year old 18 quart PC and a shiny new 23 Qt. PC - as long as they get the right BOX back!!!  R E F U N D, bitches!!! LOL. :grin:


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: shroomsynergy]
    #5374736 - 03/07/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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my shultz was fine when i got it last week, but i have seen the stuff with dirt in it. that sucks bad.

hey krill, what are you warning him about???




not warning ANYONE in specific... just saying i never had a problem w/ Shultz perlite and now i can't find any Shultz Perlite that's any good... just saying SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL HORTICULTURAL SUPPLIER.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: krill]
    #5374739 - 03/07/06 03:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Wow krill, you beat the system and effectively stole something.  You must be so proud.  :thumbdown:


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: Holydiver]
    #5374749 - 03/07/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Wow krill, you beat the system and effectively stole something.  You must be so proud.  :thumbdown:




well, it's not exactly like that, man. i'm NOT advocating STEALING - at all. or possibly getting yerself in trouble.

i basically TRADED them their OLD PC for a NEW PC.
is it moral? or am i POOR? who's to say...
they got my $90.00 - but only once. why should i buy a SECOND PC that has a lifetime warranty?
i paid for one, bought another one, returned the old one in the new box. not exactly what i call stealing.
no one has to, or should, follow me (of all ppl) by example.
i'm not a theif, i'm just slightly more clever than the average pic-i-nic basket :rolleyes:


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: krill]
    #5374762 - 03/07/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for the clarification Hippie Chick, you had me confused.
and, i concur with that 100%

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT STEALING???


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: krill]
    #5374770 - 03/07/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It's trading? You've gotta be shitting me. If you think being poor justifies stealing, then you're a few screws loose. I hate people who use the system to get what they want, yet somehow rationalize that it isn't stealing.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: Holydiver]
    #5374811 - 03/07/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ok - presto PC's have a lifetime warranty. mine turned to shit and they wouldnt honor the warranty. it cost me roughly $90.00

SINCE they wouldnt honor the warranty, i bought a new one that was roughly $96.00

i cleaned up the old one, boxed it up in the new PC box and returned it. thereby getting my $96.00 back.

you win, Holydiver - i took WalMart for $6.oo because they NOR presto could find a way to replace a PC that was SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FUCKING -LIFETIME- WARRANTY.

i PAID for ONE pressure cooker. i HAVE one pressure cooker, and since i returned the old one with ALL the packaging, they got their precious warranty papers back.

i have a few screws loose because i upgraded my PC (maybe i shoulda got the SAME PC rather than the 23 qt. one) because the 2 corporations that sold me my original decided they wouldnt honor my warranty???

whatever man. they got their money.
so they can't resell the one i gave them back... who fucking cares if they dont stand behind the product in the first place?

i wouldnt steal from anyone, but if you fuck me - expect the same in return.

stealing IS wrong. no doubt.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: Holydiver]
    #5374818 - 03/07/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

FAT TONY SAYS:
If your family is starving is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread?
And what if you family doesn't like bread?  What if they like cigarettes?  Is it wrong to steal a pack of cigarettes?
And what if you have a very large family, Is it wrong to steal a truck full of cigarettes? :laugh:


ANYWAYS,
I've found dead spiders in my perlite.  Didn't seem to cause a problem still did the job it needed to do.  I don't think a bit of potting soil in the mix would cause a problem either.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: musher_420]
    #5374835 - 03/07/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i didnt say stealing is ok if you're poor.
the point i was TRYING to make is this:
i can't afford to buy a new PC when my old PC is fucked, and i shouldnt have to when it came with a lifetime warranty.

did i beat the system? sorta.
did i steal from the system? no, i just gave them back a shitty PC.
yes, maybe it was wrong to replace it with a PC that was slightly more expensive ($6)

if you're hungry - yeah, its still wrong to steal food.
maybe you would ASK someone for something to eat...

and yeah, the perlite WOULD still work. IMO it's just not the same quality of perlite i used to get from that company.


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Re: Fuck Shultz Perlite!!! [Re: krill]
    #5374965 - 03/07/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you got a like 1 in a million perlite bag :smile:


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