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Shrooms easier than growing weed?
    #5371940 - 03/06/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well I've basically mastered growing weed, I have it down pat but I'm a little bored of weed since it's effects dont seem to make me happy anymore. I heard that shrooms could be just as fun as LSD but not as intense and not giving any health threatening effects or what ever. So since my weed was laced with PCP once I basically cant trust anyone. And unlike weed if some one sells me basically some shrooms that they just found out some where I AM gonna die, no if's about it. So I wanted to start growing shrooms for my self and basically I just wanted to know is growing shrooms easier than growing weed? And what guide for growing would you guys suggest for a noobie like me?


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: BlAcKjAcK]
    #5371956 - 03/06/06 06:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I haven't grown weed myself, but I'm assuming it's easier to grow mushrooms, especially if you try to focus on simplicity over yield.

This is based on what I've read about growing pot and hearsay from a guy i know growing both.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5371958 - 03/06/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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tiny_rabid_birds said:especially if you try to focus on simplicity over yield.




I'm just trying to focus on growing some shrooms that when trip me out atleast I'll know that nothings wrong with them because I grew them lol. Sorry I'm very paranoid xD.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: BlAcKjAcK]
    #5371961 - 03/06/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

pot is probably the easiest thing to grow... need seeds, warm sun, water, and dirt... its idiot proof :wink:  but mushrooms arent very challenging either once you do it a few times


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5371962 - 03/06/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Do a search on the site for the "PF tek" it is what I am using and its quite sufficient.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: BlAcKjAcK]
    #5371974 - 03/06/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

So do the rest of you guys agree that I should use this "PF-Tek" method since I'm sorta new?


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: Serani]
    #5371983 - 03/06/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well your homegrown mushies will always be safe, regardless of the method you used to grow them. But some methods will yield a larger harvest full of large, potent fruits, while others will generally offer smaller, less potent mushrooms, but still enough for a trip for one.

The only time you shouldn't eat your homegrown mushies is when the grow gets contaminated. But contaminations are always very easy to notice as they grow extremely fast, smell bad, and are generally funky colors; i.e. the mean green.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5371992 - 03/06/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The only reason I suggest the PF tek is for purposes of ease.  Some other teks may be confusing or at the least have a way for a "newb" (no offense intended, I'm one as well :wink:) to contaminate their batch more easily.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5372006 - 03/06/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Eh..lol ok I think I'll go with the P-F Tek since I found the tutorial with pictures ^_^. I'm glad I learned how to grow weed the normal way. I dont know if this is the normal way (P-F method) but I know I dont like the ScroG or SoG method of growing weed, it just looks un-attractive and I hate cloning lol.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: BlAcKjAcK]
    #5372019 - 03/06/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

PF Tek is the best guide for a beginner.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: BlAcKjAcK]
    #5372037 - 03/06/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well blackjack, despite the common misconception, you don't really have to start with the PF tek to have a successful first grow, so long as you're willing to do a decent amount of reading. I know a number of people who started out with poo and/or casings who were successful on their first grow... snaggletooth, hippiechick, godsentelechy.

It really depends on how much you want. The PF tek will give you maybe like 4-5 dried grams per cake, so if you do half a dozen, that's maybe like 25-30 dried grams. If you take 3 grams to trip, and you're not going to share with friends, that'll be totally fine. But if you are going to share with like 3-4 other friends (who you should NOT tell btw), that's only like 2 or 3 trips.

Personally, that's not enough for my friends and I, so I read into doing casings with poo.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: BlAcKjAcK]
    #5372075 - 03/06/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Forget the PF-tek, check this out.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5372080 - 03/06/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I took in about equal amounts of information for both hobbies. There are so many different ways to do both that I could not make a blanket statement.

PF (shrooms) = A simple soil grow.
Agar Sectoring = DWC, Ebb and flow soiless grow..


Or something like that. They each can be equally challenging.

Anybody can grow schwag.....it takes study and practice to grow the sticky-icky.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5372092 - 03/06/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

from my experience, I'm grown lots of mushies and some weed. Weed is a lot more harder. Mainly because of patinas. And keeping your mouth shut. + a lot hard to be real discreet, and while growing weed, it leaves a strong odor.


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    #5372094 - 03/06/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5372116 - 03/06/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well the way I see it.

It's easier to just GROW weed. Then it is to just GROW mushrooms.

It's easier to grow REALLY GOOD mushrooms. Then it is to grow REALLY GOOD weed.


Also weed takes a shit load of wattage, Shrooms just take a shit load of shit.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: musher_420]
    #5372173 - 03/06/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Shrooms are a lot easier to grow then weed.

1.) Besides some misting and saturation of casing layer there is no watering or feeding mushrooms.

2.) Cubensis is a hardy species, it puts up with a TON of shit and will grow in the worst conditions. Weed wont put up with much for long before dying out on you

3.) Comparatively its easier to get large yields with mushrooms almost everytime then it is with weed.

4.) Mushroom life cycle including drying is about a month give or take a week. Weed is 3+ not including drying and curing times.

those are just a few examples, i wont even get into setup cost and maintenance.

Im cultivating cannabis for the first time right now, and believe me i feel like a 3 yr old lost at the mall. So much shit to be thinking about and looking for, mixtures i have to make, safety precautions and security issues i have to deal with, christ i think growing this shit makes you 10 times more paranoid then smoking it does (let alone being stoned while having the grow around lol).

My advice is to ask yourself these questions.

1.) How much money am i willing to spend
2.) Do i want high yeild or just a little bit
3.) Where am i going to grow this

those three basic questions cover a lot of ground. If you want to go low tech and spend little or no money, PF tek and small simple aquariums like a 2 liter bottle are for you. These will produce low yeilds and average potency mushrooms.

If you want to kick it up a bit and have about 150-200 dollars to spend, buy a PC, order some horse shit from tennstud.com, and read up on grains and spawing. These types of grow produce average to heavy flushes with high potency mushrooms.

Other then that spend a lot of time using the search function and do a lot of reading. Learning the FAQ's will give you a huge advantage and will get you on your way to getting a solid grow going.

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? *DELETED* [Re: coda]
    #5372231 - 03/06/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5372267 - 03/06/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

:eek: I think I'm in love :lol:... seriously though, awsome pics, how big is that PC??!


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: Limelight_Liver]
    #5372282 - 03/06/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

AA 941 i believe, could be wrong, depends on how flexible she really is :laugh: :wink:


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    #5372308 - 03/06/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5372373 - 03/06/06 09:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Mushrooms are not esier to grow than pot, nor vice versa.
However, they are hell of a lot cheaper, take up less space, and you get more yeild per $ spent.

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: Tien] * 1
    #5372903 - 03/06/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well here's my $0.02.

Growing pot, even great pot, is the simplest thing in the world if you have a good teacher. For me, the thrill lasted for a week.
With mushies, you have alot more to take into consideration imo.
Sterility, temp, rh, ph, moisture contents, ratio of substrates(in casing teks anyways), sterility, sterility, oh ya, you gotta make sure your work, tools, and work area are really really sterile.
Working clean takes work.

If your pot crop fails, its usually your fault. But with the mushies, you fight an invisible battle with microbes.

Whereas cutting, rooting out, and planting some clones in some dirt is not that hard.

That being said: Microwaving a bag of pre-made substrate and then injecting it with a pre-made syringe isn't that hard either.

Anyways,
I think the best part about mushies is the electricity bill!  :smile:

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: cappa]
    #5372916 - 03/06/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I think the best part about mushies is the electricity bill!




Amen to that. Even wired for 240V, a couple of thousand watts of HID really spins the old meter.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5373298 - 03/07/06 03:21 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

what is weed?


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: psychedelix]
    #5373320 - 03/07/06 04:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

1) this is not really an educated question. if you're asking something like this, you obviously haven't "MASTERED" growing weed.
considering marijuana growing techniques- soil, soil-less mix, hydroponics, hydro-organic, aeroponics, etc...

i dont wanna step on yer toes, (and i'm by no means calling you out)but unless you've used all these teks and gotten exceptional results... you are only still beginning - not mastering.

but this is nothing but semantics.

2) growing weed IS easy. growing HIGH-GRADE MARIJUANA is -NOT- easy. "WEED" grows itself. it takes time, effort, patience, perseverence and constant self-improvement to get any type of HEADY nuggs.

with that said... there will always be someone who is 3 steps ahead of you, and you should always seek out and heed their advice.

3) growing shrooms IS easy. but, so is making stupid-ass bonehead mistakes. learning from those mistakes is what makes it easy over time. but, hey - i didn't have a teacher. i learned on my own.

same with herb.

3) weed uses photosynthesis
shrooms are photo-tropic.
you grow more bud with more light. shrooms just need light to SEE
which direction to grow.

4) if you're getting "bored" with weed... either your weed isn't that good, OR you just simply need to get some different strains.

i'd like to ask you:
are you growing Indica or Sativa?
Indoor or Outdoor?
Organic or Chem?
HPS or MH?
Seed or Clone?
What type of Mothers are you keeping?
how long have you been growing?

it's easy to grow both ONCE you figgur out what you're doing. such is life...

the best thing you can do for yourself is simply EXPERIMENT.
the fallacy Noobs ALWAYS make is expecting optimum results from your first attmept. it doesn't work that way, unless you have a seasoned grower for a mentor.

5) there ARE alot of peeps who grow shrooms successfully w/o having ever used the original PF Tek. and kudos to them.

i just wanna say this:
until you learn how to mimick nature, and fully understand what the Plant or the Shroom NEED, you'll NEVER FULLY understand them, and you'll never full "master" growing them.

Knowledge and Wisdom are two TOTALLY different things.

6) i'm not trying to be a dick. i just think you are getting ahead of yourself and you need to understand that if you want to master either of both of these hobbies, it's something that is going to take time to PERFECT. that is unavoidable.

7) learn the PF Tek. YES, there are many Higher-Yielding ways of growing, but you have to build up to that (IMO). there is a reason PF REVOLUTIONIZED indoor/clandestine shroom growing. and you NEED to realize this has only been taking place since 1991.

Indoor Pot growing has been going on since the late 1970's and indoor bloodlines (Skunk, NL, etc) have been inbred and stabilized since the early 1980's...

THESE ARE 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.

take it upon yerself to learn what you wanna learn and accept that you may succeed at first - or you may fail and try again.

8) I would give ANYTHING to meet a girl like HippieChick!!! i've avoided saying that, and honestly - i could care less WHAT she looks like. i've NEVER, EVER met a girl like her and i can only HOPE that one day i will.

with that said... growing herb doesnt HAVE to be EXPENSIVE.
my first indoor grow consisted of a closet, a 150 watt HPS lamp from Lowe's ($80), some wiring gear ($10-12), a couple 48" fluorescent fixtures ($15-20 each), and random supplies.
the rule of thumb is 0.5 grams per watt of light...
i've gotten 6+ ounces (per harvest/run) from 150 watt HPS and 320 watts worth of flourescent fixtures (for oomph)

there's no way to determine what you'll get when you grow shrooms, but HippieChick pretty much summed that up for you.

i've spent alot more on growing shrooms, but i've been growing boomers a lot longer and it's been quite some time since i've been able to grow bud.

to put an end to this rant...
you are talking about two different worlds.
neither are hard OR easy, they just take some work and perseverence.
with time, you can succeed at both.

9) you dont have to lie to kick it

10) why can't i find a girl like HippieChick?

10.5) start with the PF Tek. it will cost you the least and if you botch up your first attempt or two, you won't be out much. once you can get a colonized PF jar, you can handle the rest of the teks you'll find here.

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: psychedelix]
    #14239023 - 04/04/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've grown weed, and I'm halfway through my first fungus grow. Both a relatively easy, it just takes patience and research. Don't be afraid to ask for help. Some things you will learn the hard way, but I can say from experience that's the best way.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: FrequentFryer]
    #14288101 - 04/14/11 01:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have grown mushrooms, never weed.  I would have to imagine that the biggest advantage to mushroom growing is.  Way less space required, basically no odor,  no need for any real lights, the planting (inoculation) to harvest time is just over a month, basically more yield for time, and every dollar spent

Basically, shrooms grow cheaper, faster, in small areas.    Though suppose weed could be cheep to grow if u had a large outdoor garden.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: demon66]
    #14289009 - 04/14/11 09:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Indoors- mushrooms, outdoors- weed. Hardest part about shrooms, getting the substrate water content right, hardest part about weed, getting the right conditions at the right time for sticky and potent flowers.

Other than that, once you got you spawn done, give them a warm dimly lit damp place and a tasty substrate and you'll get shrooms. Assuming you got good seeds, gave them plenty of water, warmth, good soil, and lots of sunshine and you'll get sticky dank.

In both cases, how well they are cared for during the first stages of life determine the quantity you'll get.

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #14289013 - 04/14/11 09:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: FrequentFryer]
    #14289038 - 04/14/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: HipsterDoofus]
    #14289392 - 04/14/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: realcarlos]
    #14289490 - 04/14/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Weed easy to grow? Funny, I just took down my indoor setup for the summer. Unless you're going hydro, don't expect to take any sort of trip or vacation without finding someone trustworthy to watch your shit. It takes 4 months from start to finish. Try to keep an indoor plant growing in the same pot for 4 months without a problem. Not easy. I had a 6ft tent with a 400W HPS and got just enough herb for me and a FEW close friends.

Now I have a 5 tier shelf which takes up no room, little electricity, low maintenance, and makes more shroomz then I know what to do with in half the amount of time.

Take it from someone who has done both with success. Case closed.


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: Dr. ShroomThumb]
    #14289542 - 04/14/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #14289630 - 04/14/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

PF TEX is teh SUXor  :farmerdance:


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Re: Shrooms easier than growing weed? [Re: anonjon]
    #14289647 - 04/14/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

PF TEX is teh ROXor






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