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Offlinehiflo
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PF TEK kelp meal in the water
    #5371620 - 03/06/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

what would happen if i added a small amount of desalted kelp meal to give the water a nutrient boost anyone know of this what would happen all i have is distilled water


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: hiflo]
    #5371796 - 03/06/06 05:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It's been used before with decent results. Kelp is very high in natural triptophans which some believe to increase actives.
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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: hiflo]
    #5371971 - 03/06/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

think im going to do a few cakes with kelp just to see what happens. what would happen if i used earth juice grow 2-1-1 a very small amount might as well just to see what happens :crazy2:


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: hiflo]
    #5371975 - 03/06/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5371688/an/0/page/0

This was discussed with honey.

"Honey works well for liquid cultures and such, but it cannot be added to an already established substrate and somehow magically re-introduce nutrients into the network; it doesn't work like that.

Using honey around your substrate is a quick way to contamination"

I believe your kelp would fall into the same situation as the honey.


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: Serani]
    #5372005 - 03/06/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I believe your kelp would fall into the same situation as the honey.




Nope, sure wouldn't.

Kelp meal is an additive high in triptophans (which are attributed to precursors of psiloc[yb]in production), and like RR said, would help to boost potency.

Honey, on the other hand, is used in small amounts as the nutrient source in basic liquid cultures [LC].

They're completely different things, with completely different chemical compositions and uses.


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5372020 - 03/06/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Oh I see.

But would what was said in the honey thread about 'not being able to "re-introduce" nutrients into the network' not apply? Or is it a completely different proccess?


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: hiflo]
    #5372072 - 03/06/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

in the original pf tek directions is says that swamp, pond water made a difference in fruting i dont know iv'e only used distilled water.


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: Serani]
    #5372100 - 03/06/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm.. well it wouldn't really be a re-introduction, as you'd add the kelp meal to the substrate prior to inoculation and colonization. That is to say, it would just become beneficial nutrients of the substrate, not present in the other ingredients (brf or vermiculite).


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: hiflo]
    #5372102 - 03/06/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I add a little kelp meal to my substrate & get boomers that are knock sox (or panty hose) off potent. :rolleyes:


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: agar]
    #5372103 - 03/06/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I see.


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: Serani]
    #5372112 - 03/06/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup: :grin:


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: agar]
    #5372997 - 03/07/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

:mushroom2: kelp i use it alot in the garden great stuff im going to do 8 rice cakes with ether golden teacher or the PF strain witch one should i do first?


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: agar]
    #27621059 - 01/16/22 12:22 PM (2 years, 12 days ago)

Quote:

agar said:
I add a little kelp meal to my substrate & get boomers that are knock sox (or panty hose) off potent. :rolleyes:





I bought some liquid kelp extract from the organic store an it is listed as an iodine supplement. I am assuming by your post&pic that it is helpful. Mine lists as 800mcg/drop. How much do you add? I am mixing BRF/verm for PF jars. Thanks for any help. I get decently potent fruits now just none that large...more many smaller ones but I suspect that may be due to water not supplements as I have always stuck to the 2:1:1 formula. Thank you for any help.


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: PsyloFreak] * 1
    #27621207 - 01/16/22 02:15 PM (2 years, 12 days ago)

The OP hasn’t been here for nearly 16 years.

Nobody uses additives anymore. PF Tek with BRF is all that’s needed to grow happy, potent cubes. Size mostly comes from genetics, visually appealing but not worth chasing imho.


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: DharmaForKarma]
    #27621230 - 01/16/22 02:37 PM (2 years, 12 days ago)

This made me laugh.  Interesting reading a thread that old!


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #27621429 - 01/16/22 05:29 PM (2 years, 12 days ago)

I don't read the dates that often unless it seems really old and outdated. I just PC'd a batch of experiment/spawn jars and they are cooling now. I added a little of that and a knife tip worth of nutritional yeast to the mix and marked those. When I 'noc them all up tomorrow I will use the same strain to do a modded and unmodded formula in a side by side test to see if there is any difference. I have all that stuff laying around so I figured what the hell do I have to lose except possibility of better fruiting or more potent fruits. Made sure not to add too much so it doesn't throw the balance off by too much. I like trying new things to see what happens. 1cc of spore solution is a small price to pay to find out if there is a benefit to it. Experimentation is how you learn. Good looking out on the age of it though. Happy growing.


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: PsyloFreak]
    #27621907 - 01/17/22 03:50 AM (2 years, 12 days ago)

There is a post in one of the sticky threads about how to be awesome on the forums…. It says, among other things, not to resurrect threads older than a certain time length. I want to be awesome so I don’t do it 😎

Having said that, I don’t want to come across as rude. You seem genuinely interested in experimentation….
Peace out and good luck Psylo!!


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Re: PF TEK kelp meal in the water [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #27621911 - 01/17/22 04:10 AM (2 years, 12 days ago)

thanks myc. no offense meant or taken. just experimenting, asking, and sharing. i often forget to look at those little dates on the left. i will definately pay more attention in the future. maybe we should ask the modfs to close the thread to prevent further confusion unless that would keep others from the info contained in it. I haven't used this style messaging system in decades but decided to join and contribute since i have gained so much knowledge from others. good luck to you also in your endeavors


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