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casing mix not steralized
    #5371006 - 03/06/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i will be casing rye soon and would like to know if there are any good casing mixtures that do not require steralizing? or if not what would be the best casing for rye? thanks.


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: soreal]
    #5371012 - 03/06/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Keep in mind, you don't HAVE to steralize, however, when you do, you get better results. I would suggest 50/50+ sterolized in the microwave for the easiest method.


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: Argo]
    #5371053 - 03/06/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

how long do you microwave for? (by 50/50 you mean coir/verm?)


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: kbarn]
    #5371070 - 03/06/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i think 50/50 is verm and peat


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: soreal]
    #5371109 - 03/06/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

50/50+ is verm/peat with calcium carbonate and crushed oyster shells added to buffer the ph. You can put it in the microwave for five minutes, then stir it up with a sterile utensil and put it back in for another five. You could probably get away with doing it more or less depending on whether youre nervous or lazy.


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: soreal]
    #5371113 - 03/06/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you usually want some sort of buffer if using peat such as: gypsum or crushed oyster shells...peat moss is very acidic by nature. I think that cocoa coir is supposed to work the best though and with that you need no PH buffer, just verm/coir


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: figment]
    #5371123 - 03/06/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

so 50/50 verm/coir needs no buffer?


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: soreal]
    #5371176 - 03/06/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It doesn't really NEED a buffer, but over time it will become acidic and would benefit from one.


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: soreal]
    #5371245 - 03/06/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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soreal said:
so 50/50 verm/coir needs no buffer?




Using coir you don't need a PH buffer but since coir contains nutes you would usualy use a different ratio. either 60/40 or even 80/20 of verm/coir.


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: BMArts]
    #5371332 - 03/06/06 03:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

There is a lot of mixed information in this thread..

If you are looking for a simple casing layer effective without sterilizing, use Jiffy Mix.

50/50 is peat/verm and yes it should be pH buffered

60/40 is verm/coir and does not need to be pH buffered


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: mycodetour]
    #5371340 - 03/06/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

so 60% verm and then 40% coir? correct?


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: soreal]
    #5371345 - 03/06/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yea.. but be careful of overlay, because coir contains nutes, the myc will colonize the casing layer


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Re: casing mix not steralized [Re: mycodetour]
    #5371385 - 03/06/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Casings should NOT be sterilized. A sterilized casing will contaminate much faster than a pasteurized casing layer. Try not to let the internal temperature of the material exceed 150F to 160F, so that the beneficial bacteria that will protect your casing material from green molds will survive.
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