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What Issues Matter to You?
    #5370841 - 03/06/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

When you are studying candidates(you do study before voting right?) what issues are most imporatant to your decision? Do they change from local, to state, to federal?

I vary from local to state to federal. I don't care much about local issues. My only requirement is that I have broke bread with you before. I need to know the candidate on a personal level to feel comfortable casting my vote for them.

State and federal are mostly the same issues.

For me, number one is gun control. If you are for gun control, not only are you out of the question, but I will do my best to inform everyone I know as to why you shouldn't be voted for.

Second in line is campaign finance reform. If you are takin money from companies(or their representatives), then you do not have my interests at heart.

Third is election reform. I don't like electronic voting, and I don't like the little tricks each party tries to pull to disuade voters from showing up.

Nex is immigration. Get this shit in line. I want all companies that hire illegals fined. I want all illegals rounded up and deported. Use the process in place, or stay the fuck out.

That's the major issues, the ones I will decide one way or another on. Next come the issues that may or may not sway my vote one way or another.

Marijuana - Legalize the stuff already. Plenty of tax money to be made here. Lots of uses for hemp as well.

Social security - Eliminate it. Why should I pay into something I might not get? I can save my money just fine on my own.

Trade/Outsourcing - It's time we start exporting more than our jobs. Tax companies that outsource. Stop buying other countries' products.

Taxes - This shit needs reformed as well.

Environment - A candidate should at least want to make an effort to help clean up our country. Heavy fines for/shutting down polluters.

Veterans - These people deserve more than what they get.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5370882 - 03/06/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Oddly enough, I agree with everything you've stated, with the possible exception of Gun control. To me, the only only things that should be registered with the government are Hand guns and automatic weapons.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5370898 - 03/06/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

1. Civil liberties. Say what you will about the ACLU, but I support them on almost every issue.

2. Environment. It's my planet too, dammit!

3. Taxes. Unfortunately, neither party seems to represent me on this issue. The Democrats just talk about how the rich "don't pay their fair share," while the Republicans talk about how the American people are overtaxed. If only there was a candidate that realizes its not how much you tax, but how you tax, my cynicism would be greatly alleviated.

4. The Drug War. End it. Technically, this ties into #1.

5. Foreign policy. I'm not necessarily against foreign military intervention, but for god's sake, give me a candidate who knows what he's doing. Bush Sr. was great at this, but Jr. just seems to go around pissing off the entire world.

6. Corporate welfare. There's no reason for McDonalds to be mooching off the taxpayers.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5370968 - 03/06/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

1. Foreign Policy - Reel it in
2. Pork Spending - Cut it out
3. Drug War - End It
4. Gun Control - Little to none
5. Taxes - Flat
6. Illegal immigration - Do all you can to stop it

That's all for right now.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5370973 - 03/06/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I forgot one. We need to get rid of a shitload of subsidies as well, espcially in the form of tax exemptions to large corporations.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5371058 - 03/06/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

1. foreign policy- instead of trying to show our might and power through military means we should try to show it through compassionate ways. imagine if the peace corp had a budget that was 25% of the military (ok i dont know the peace corps budget but i doubt its that high) try to make the world love us again and not either hate us or feel sorry for the mistakes we are making. also no more loopholes that allow presidents to go to war by saying its a police action or armed conflict or whatever you want to call it. if our military goes somewhere to kill somebody it should be voted on by congress. a SMALL force perhaps could be used at the presidents discretion to help out nations that need it in a timely manner(situations like rawanda)but if any more troops are to be sent over then congress must help vote on it

2.Taxes-like somebody mentioned above, how much we tax is not as important as how we tax. also trying to cover lots of loopholes that allow corporations to get large tax breaks.

3. political honesty- as impossible as it sounds i think a system should try to be made that enforces politicians to behave and act honestly and without corruption. I believe punishment and jail times rivaling those of the drug war should be emplaced here. fucking over an entire state or country that put thier trust in you to do a good/honest job is unexsusable

4. Social issues- anything that helps out the average joe should recieve more money. schools, hospitols, firefighers, public works and this sort of thing needs help. we are one of the richest nations in the world but it also appears one of the stupidest and depending on location most impoverished

5. Civil liberties- im sort of split here. I feel that the softer drugs should be controlled in the same manner as alcohol. the harder drugs perhaps could have some sort of system that would help fight addiction(unrealistic i know but perhaps something like you have to be shown to have either a job and residence and have your bills up to date and payed off before spending money on these drugs) I am however for gun control, in my mind automatic weapons have no place in hunting or target shooting. I dont see a need for handguns in our society either. people who say that only thugs will then have weapons should just carry a shotgun around all day, that way everybody will know not to fuck with you.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5371193 - 03/06/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

immigration, immigration, immigration. Thats the issue i vote on most of the time.

Issues I care about, but would concede on include abortion and gay marriage.


How about we militarize the boarders, deport the illegals (yes it can be done) and in return we guarantee abortion and gay marriage. compromise can be good.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: DieCommie]
    #5371259 - 03/06/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Apparently I'm the only guy who doesn't give two shits about immigration one way or the other. :shrug:


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5371270 - 03/06/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It seems to look that way.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Rono]
    #5371283 - 03/06/06 03:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Rono said:To me, the only only things that should be registered with the government are Hand guns and automatic weapons.


What about sex offenders? Are they not more dangerous than hand guns?


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: DieCommie]
    #5373045 - 03/07/06 12:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I am not proud of my history as a reliable voter. I feel the inclination to participate in a representational system corresponds to the wide spread social pathology in which a dynamic of submission/domination has become elemental in cultural structure.
Voting serves only to buttress our demise as freedom seeking animals/spirits/whatever. All the ?issues? further divide us along symbolic lines that have little impact on our immediate reality based lives. I?m not saying this reign of symbolism is devoid of consequence? wars, prisons, dehumanizing economic systems, rampant illness both physical and psychological, ad infinitum? however when we participate in a rotten system, no matter good intentions, our participation functions as de facto legitimization.
Please don?t misunderstand. I am not bashing America specifically as some great satan. All contemporary political/governmental systems devised by humans are severely corpulent, down right rotten, and worthy of the historical compost heap in my opinion.
I know? I?m a wing nut.
Who cares... "What issues matter to you?" Caffeine is my main issue. I'll continue to overlook civilization's failures so long as I can drink coffee all day.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5373236 - 03/07/06 01:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Environment
National Security
Taxes
Drug War
Civil Liberties
Immigration (primarily on a local level since I am in San Diego. Although it needs to be addressed nationally as well)
Foriegn Policy (I dont agree with it most of the time)
Dick Cheney Gun Control


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #5373364 - 03/07/06 05:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

im one of those people that doesnt vote. I have before... but turns out it didnt mean anything. The only thing I cared about was a transportation bill to build a monorail from tampa to miami.. and even though it passed with flying colors.. and the money was collected...

the project was still put on hold, and who knows where all the money went.

Voting to me seems like when a parent brings their ugly kid to a beauty pageant. You know its pointless, but you just go through the motions to keep everyone happy and in denial.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5374998 - 03/07/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Wow, I'm pretty much totally with you, except for gun control which is absolutely a non-issue for me.

On top of all that I could never support any candidate that is pushing for a gay marriage ban. I know gay marriage is one of those sensationalist political issues that take attention away from meat and potatoes politics but I get caught up in it. I think politicians who are out to guarantee the prohibition of gay marriage should be bitch smacked by a million gay cocks right in the face.

In terms of local politicians my biggest concern is probably education. Whenever a candidate shows a serious commitment to making our schools better (especially in a city as fucked as baltimore) they get my attention. I think quality education is an underestimated key to getting this country back on track, and despite what the media says there is a lot that money and dedication can do in large urban public schools.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: kotik]
    #5375003 - 03/07/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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kotik said:
im one of those people that doesnt vote. I have before... but turns out it didnt mean anything. The only thing I cared about was a transportation bill to build a monorail from tampa to miami.. and even though it passed with flying colors.. and the money was collected...

the project was still put on hold, and who knows where all the money went.

Voting to me seems like when a parent brings their ugly kid to a beauty pageant. You know its pointless, but you just go through the motions to keep everyone happy and in denial.




Why surrender?


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5375339 - 03/07/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Freedom. It is mankinds right to be free to choose his own path. Anything getting in the way of that is evil.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Dmonikal]
    #5376875 - 03/08/06 08:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Why surrender?




what do you mean, why did I surrender and vote that one time, or why do I "surrender" by not voting?


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5376998 - 03/08/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe it is just me, but why is gay marriage an issue at all? Why would you shoot down anyone that supports it? The way I see it is it doesnt affect me because I am not gay, so why even look at the issue. The only thing I see happening is more money going toward federal taxes.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #5378008 - 03/08/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Maybe it is just me, but why is gay marriage an issue at all? Why would you shoot down anyone that supports it? The way I see it is it doesnt affect me because I am not gay, so why even look at the issue. The only thing I see happening is more money going toward federal taxes.




First of all, I think you misunderstood. I would shoot down any politician who promised, while campaigning, that they would try and push a ban on gay marriage. Gay marriage is probably the only issue where I don't see two sides to the argument, just my side which is right. Gay marriage should be allowed. Period.

Secondly, I can think of a million reasons why you should care about issues that don't affect you personally. But as I see it, even though I am not gay, this issue does affect me personally. I believe in liberty, it is vital to my way of life and what I believe in. I believe that people should be free to live their lives how they want to, whether gay or straight. Allowing straight people to marry while preventing gay people from marrying is a slap in the face of all of us and a slap in the face of lady liberty. This is not a religious issue, this is not a moral issue, this is not a quality of life issue, this is a civil rights issue. Either you believe in civil rights for all, or you don't.

That's the way I see this argument and why it is so important to all of us. Simple matter of freedom vs. oppression.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: kotik]
    #5378023 - 03/08/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I understand your attitude that voting is pointless, but I guess I think it is just as valid to have the attitude that voting is worthwhile. Its an optimist pessimist sort of thing. You are a smart dude, and it bums me out when I hear that smart dudes aren't voting. Just hope you can get motivated to go vote for something.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5379048 - 03/08/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

In no real order:

- Election reform
- Civil liberties (personal choice about what to do with your body)
- Environmental & Energy concerns
- Peaceful foreign policy
- Education
- Healthcare

Those are the issues I care about most and want to be represented by whoever I'm voting for. Unfortunately most candidates either don't provide this or they talk the talk.. but fail to walk the walk once they're elected. Ancillary to that is a general desire to see a movement away from the restrictive two party system we have now.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5380059 - 03/09/06 01:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ah, I think I missed the word BAN when I read it the first time. Either way, you all received my two cents on the issue.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #5395020 - 03/13/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Universal health care.

Much tougher gun laws while maintaining Second Amendment.

Revamp education system.

Non-intervention foreign policy.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: bukkake]
    #5395028 - 03/13/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I would like to hear your thoughts on gun laws. I'm going to make a thread dealing with this.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5395420 - 03/13/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I would like the gun show loophole closed and extensive background checks to be done. I would also like to see the influence the NRA has raped away from them.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: bukkake]
    #5395437 - 03/13/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Why take away the influence of a group that protects one of our guaranteed rights?


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5395518 - 03/13/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

NRA is the civil rights group the left loves to hate.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: DieCommie]
    #5395523 - 03/13/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I love all civil rights groups equally. Then again, I am quite centrist in my political beliefs, so that may have a lot to do with it.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5395681 - 03/13/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I despise most lobbyist groups. They(NRA) do not influence on the behalf of the interests of the general public. They are also staunchly opposed to amending the gun show loophole which members of terrorist organizations in the Middle East have recently been convicted of exploiting. W. said he would support closing that law, shockingly.

But yes. It could always just be because I am from the left.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: DieCommie]
    #5396191 - 03/13/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
NRA is the civil rights group the left loves to hate.




I have no problem with the NRA, I have a problem with guns in general. The difference is, I dont try to lobby against them or get my congressman to because I think if people disagree with guns they shouldnt own one. But, I do know where people are coming from when they dont like the NRA. Most of the people you hear talk possitive about the NRA (in the media) are nut cases.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #5397162 - 03/13/06 11:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Most of the people you hear talk possitive about the NRA (in the media) are nut cases.



Examples?


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5397695 - 03/14/06 02:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The people who speak in favor of automatic weapons. Its one thing to own a gun, its another to own an assault vehicle without the vehicle. Those are the people I am refering to. The people that think its ok to mount a rocket launcher to your front door to stop intruders.

Those are the only types of people I see speak publicly (public = media) about the NRA.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5397874 - 03/14/06 05:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

"what issues matter to you?"

Answer:
1. justice
2. See number one
3. see numbers two and one
4. all of the above

I think you get the point.

Justice at ALL costs.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5398340 - 03/14/06 09:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i'm with you on all of those except immigration and outsourcing.

undocumented workers are a vital part of our economy. they perform valuable work and it's a shame that they're marked as "illegals". they're here, they're staying, and they should stay. it's time we had a system that acknowledged them and permitted them to work and live in the US. from an economic, human rights, and national security standpoint, the current situation, and any further attempts at prohibition, are unacceptable.

i also don't have a problem with "outsourcing". i see opposition as usually being ignorant of economics. there is a reason we trade. it does not help our economy to limit imports.

gun prohibition is a big issue for me. if you're anti-gun, you're out of the question as far as my vote.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #5398398 - 03/14/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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The people who speak in favor of automatic weapons. Its one thing to own a gun, its another to own an assault vehicle without the vehicle. Those are the people I am refering to. The people that think its ok to mount a rocket launcher to your front door to stop intruders.

Those are the only types of people I see speak publicly (public = media) about the NRA.




thia post is riduclous.

Why isn't it ok to mount a rocket launcher to your front door to stop intruders? Motherfuckers shouldn't be intruding into my domain, lest they know the wrath.:rockets: :minigun: :sniper:

Its called taking care of yourslef and not needing some quasi military force to show up a day late and a dollar short.

Do you understand?


An assualt vehicle without the vehicle? Lame, whats is worse is an assault vehicel without the assualt, then its is just waste of gas, not to mention an eye sore.

First and foremost, economic policy is most important to me.  There are many facets of a sound economic existance.  Foreign policy and domest policy rol hand in hand in this department.

Next is legislation, the laws that are constructed, everyone should take a personal interest in this, you are the ones most directly affected by this. That means, know your local politicians and national.  They make laws and appoint judges.  Vote accordingly. I like guns, I like drugs, to me it would seem in my interest to vote fro peole who lean closest to my ideas.

Thirdly are military spending issues.  More money for the services, quit giving it to the projects.  They put themselves in speaking distance with the reaper all the time, they deserve more.  More salary and better training and equipment.  They defend this country and its interests.  Can you see why they are so important?

Also thirdly, education.  We need an educational system that is fair and equal for all the states.  Everyone should learn macro economics and micro as well as two foreighn languages before they leave middle school, highschool at the latest. A nation of idiots and uneducated is a nation destined for failure.  A nation of people with abilities to add, subtract, and think is destined to succeed.  We need more emphasis on creativity, creativity maps out solutions, algebra and reasoning solve problems.
  here are some of my thouhgts on the issues that matter to me.



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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5398425 - 03/14/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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An assualt vehicle without the vehicle? Lame, whats is worse is an assault vehicel without the assualt, then its is just waste of gas, not to mention an eye sore.




*cough* civilian hummer *cough* I hate those things


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5398450 - 03/14/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, they suck like a bitch with horse teeth.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #5398739 - 03/14/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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The people who speak in favor of automatic weapons.



What does your fear of automatic weapons stem from?

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Its one thing to own a gun, its another to own an assault vehicle without the vehicle. Those are the people I am refering to. The people that think its ok to mount a rocket launcher to your front door to stop intruders.

Those are the only types of people I see speak publicly (public = media) about the NRA.



Again, examples?


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    #5398776 - 03/14/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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undocumented workers are a vital part of our economy. they perform valuable work and it's a shame that they're marked as "illegals". they're here, they're staying, and they should stay. it's time we had a system that acknowledged them and permitted them to work and live in the US.



They can enter legally if they want to be a vital part of the US.  Documented, tax paying legals.  Also, they should have to learn English within 1 year of being here.

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from an economic, human rights, and national security standpoint, the current situation, and any further attempts at prohibition, are unacceptable.



Perhaps I misunderstand you, but:
How is acceptable from an economic standpoint to have a bunch of people not paying taxes and sending that tax free money to another country?
Human rights?  They have none if they're not a citizen as far as I'm concerned.
National security?  You can't possibly sit there and tell me that is acceptable to have a porous border where just anyone can waltz in, and get a job without being documented.  Surely you jest.

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i also don't have a problem with "outsourcing". i see opposition as usually being ignorant of economics. there is a reason we trade. it does not help our economy to limit imports.



Call me old fashioned, but I feel the majority of goods need to be produced in America.  If it ain't made here, don't buy it.  Export all you want, just not jobs.

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gun prohibition is a big issue for me. if you're anti-gun, you're out of the question as far as my vote.



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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5398947 - 03/14/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

They can enter legally if they want to be a vital part of the US. Documented, tax paying legals.

they can't, or they would. i think they should be able to do this.

Also, they should have to learn English within 1 year of being here.

i don't see why...

How is acceptable from an economic standpoint to have a bunch of people not paying taxes and sending that tax free money to another country?

what part of that is unacceptable? if they send american dollars back to mexico, that drives US exports.

Human rights? They have none if they're not a citizen as far as I'm concerned.

i disagree.

National security? You can't possibly sit there and tell me that is acceptable to have a porous border where just anyone can waltz in, and get a job without being documented.

that is the current situation, and will remain so as long as we continue to try to prevent people from coming from other countries to work here. they should be allowed to come. right now it's all underground. legalize it.

Export all you want, just not jobs.

there is no point to export unless you import.

this sums up the situation very nicely:

http://www.word-gems.com/wealth.hazlitt.exports.html


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5399066 - 03/14/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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The people who speak in favor of automatic weapons.



What does your fear of automatic weapons stem from?

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AaronEvil said:
Its one thing to own a gun, its another to own an assault vehicle without the vehicle. Those are the people I am refering to. The people that think its ok to mount a rocket launcher to your front door to stop intruders.

Those are the only types of people I see speak publicly (public = media) about the NRA.



Again, examples?




Watch the 5 o'clock news. There is always someone on like this. Its never an NRA rep its always some hill billy with a beer gut and a dirty wife beater. If they were important enough to remember I would post their names.


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    #5399080 - 03/14/06 12:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

In response to Mack:

Its not that I dont think you should protect yourself and your property, its that I think a shotgun can do the job. Why use rocket powered grenades when a simple pistol/rifle/shotgun does the exact same thing. Why use an automatic weapon when you can just kill them with one or two shots? I think people who are in favor of these guns want to feel powerful by owning one. Thats just my opinion.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5399694 - 03/14/06 03:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

1. Foreign Policy - Let's renew our reputation with the new candidate
2. Drug War - Marijuana LEGAL! LSD researchable!
3. Gun Control - Keep them legal but in the right hands
4. Taxes - Evenly spread for all
5. Illegal immigration - End it, deport all aliens
6. NSA spying- End it fast or get warrants and I'll vote for ya
7. Iraq War- Come up with a good plan to get the hell out of there w/o anymore damage than we've already caused
8. Environment- Let the earth be more important than corporate profits, do something about what Bush screwed up and I'll vote for ya


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    #5399710 - 03/14/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Illegal immigration - End it, deport all aliens

even if it could be ended just like that, it would be a disaster.


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