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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: gluke bastid]
#5379048 - 03/08/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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In no real order:
- Election reform - Civil liberties (personal choice about what to do with your body) - Environmental & Energy concerns - Peaceful foreign policy - Education - Healthcare
Those are the issues I care about most and want to be represented by whoever I'm voting for. Unfortunately most candidates either don't provide this or they talk the talk.. but fail to walk the walk once they're elected. Ancillary to that is a general desire to see a movement away from the restrictive two party system we have now.
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AaronEvil
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: gluke bastid]
#5380059 - 03/09/06 01:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah, I think I missed the word BAN when I read it the first time. Either way, you all received my two cents on the issue.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
#5395020 - 03/13/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Universal health care.
Much tougher gun laws while maintaining Second Amendment.
Revamp education system.
Non-intervention foreign policy.
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daimyo
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: bukkake]
#5395028 - 03/13/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would like to hear your thoughts on gun laws. I'm going to make a thread dealing with this.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
#5395420 - 03/13/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would like the gun show loophole closed and extensive background checks to be done. I would also like to see the influence the NRA has raped away from them.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: bukkake]
#5395437 - 03/13/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why take away the influence of a group that protects one of our guaranteed rights?
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Redstorm]
#5395518 - 03/13/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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NRA is the civil rights group the left loves to hate.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: DieCommie]
#5395523 - 03/13/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I love all civil rights groups equally. Then again, I am quite centrist in my political beliefs, so that may have a lot to do with it.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Redstorm]
#5395681 - 03/13/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I despise most lobbyist groups. They(NRA) do not influence on the behalf of the interests of the general public. They are also staunchly opposed to amending the gun show loophole which members of terrorist organizations in the Middle East have recently been convicted of exploiting. W. said he would support closing that law, shockingly.
But yes. It could always just be because I am from the left.
Edited by bukkake (03/13/06 07:20 PM)
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AaronEvil
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: DieCommie]
#5396191 - 03/13/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: NRA is the civil rights group the left loves to hate.
I have no problem with the NRA, I have a problem with guns in general. The difference is, I dont try to lobby against them or get my congressman to because I think if people disagree with guns they shouldnt own one. But, I do know where people are coming from when they dont like the NRA. Most of the people you hear talk possitive about the NRA (in the media) are nut cases.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
#5397162 - 03/13/06 11:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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AaronEvil said: Most of the people you hear talk possitive about the NRA (in the media) are nut cases.
Examples?
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AaronEvil
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
#5397695 - 03/14/06 02:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The people who speak in favor of automatic weapons. Its one thing to own a gun, its another to own an assault vehicle without the vehicle. Those are the people I am refering to. The people that think its ok to mount a rocket launcher to your front door to stop intruders.
Those are the only types of people I see speak publicly (public = media) about the NRA.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
#5397874 - 03/14/06 05:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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"what issues matter to you?"
Answer: 1. justice 2. See number one 3. see numbers two and one 4. all of the above
I think you get the point.
Justice at ALL costs.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
#5398340 - 03/14/06 09:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i'm with you on all of those except immigration and outsourcing.
undocumented workers are a vital part of our economy. they perform valuable work and it's a shame that they're marked as "illegals". they're here, they're staying, and they should stay. it's time we had a system that acknowledged them and permitted them to work and live in the US. from an economic, human rights, and national security standpoint, the current situation, and any further attempts at prohibition, are unacceptable.
i also don't have a problem with "outsourcing". i see opposition as usually being ignorant of economics. there is a reason we trade. it does not help our economy to limit imports.
gun prohibition is a big issue for me. if you're anti-gun, you're out of the question as far as my vote.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
#5398398 - 03/14/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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AaronEvil said: The people who speak in favor of automatic weapons. Its one thing to own a gun, its another to own an assault vehicle without the vehicle. Those are the people I am refering to. The people that think its ok to mount a rocket launcher to your front door to stop intruders.
Those are the only types of people I see speak publicly (public = media) about the NRA.
thia post is riduclous.
Why isn't it ok to mount a rocket launcher to your front door to stop intruders? Motherfuckers shouldn't be intruding into my domain, lest they know the wrath. 
Its called taking care of yourslef and not needing some quasi military force to show up a day late and a dollar short.
Do you understand?
An assualt vehicle without the vehicle? Lame, whats is worse is an assault vehicel without the assualt, then its is just waste of gas, not to mention an eye sore.
First and foremost, economic policy is most important to me. There are many facets of a sound economic existance. Foreign policy and domest policy rol hand in hand in this department.
Next is legislation, the laws that are constructed, everyone should take a personal interest in this, you are the ones most directly affected by this. That means, know your local politicians and national. They make laws and appoint judges. Vote accordingly. I like guns, I like drugs, to me it would seem in my interest to vote fro peole who lean closest to my ideas.
Thirdly are military spending issues. More money for the services, quit giving it to the projects. They put themselves in speaking distance with the reaper all the time, they deserve more. More salary and better training and equipment. They defend this country and its interests. Can you see why they are so important?
Also thirdly, education. We need an educational system that is fair and equal for all the states. Everyone should learn macro economics and micro as well as two foreighn languages before they leave middle school, highschool at the latest. A nation of idiots and uneducated is a nation destined for failure. A nation of people with abilities to add, subtract, and think is destined to succeed. We need more emphasis on creativity, creativity maps out solutions, algebra and reasoning solve problems. here are some of my thouhgts on the issues that matter to me.
Edited by mack_tasticlies (03/14/06 10:08 AM)
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mack_tasticlies said: An assualt vehicle without the vehicle? Lame, whats is worse is an assault vehicel without the assualt, then its is just waste of gas, not to mention an eye sore.
*cough* civilian hummer *cough* I hate those things
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Konnrade]
#5398450 - 03/14/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah, they suck like a bitch with horse teeth.
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daimyo
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
#5398739 - 03/14/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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AaronEvil said: The people who speak in favor of automatic weapons.
What does your fear of automatic weapons stem from?
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AaronEvil said: Its one thing to own a gun, its another to own an assault vehicle without the vehicle. Those are the people I am refering to. The people that think its ok to mount a rocket launcher to your front door to stop intruders.
Those are the only types of people I see speak publicly (public = media) about the NRA.
Again, examples?
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: wilshire]
#5398776 - 03/14/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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wilshire said: undocumented workers are a vital part of our economy. they perform valuable work and it's a shame that they're marked as "illegals". they're here, they're staying, and they should stay. it's time we had a system that acknowledged them and permitted them to work and live in the US.
They can enter legally if they want to be a vital part of the US. Documented, tax paying legals. Also, they should have to learn English within 1 year of being here.
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wilshire said: from an economic, human rights, and national security standpoint, the current situation, and any further attempts at prohibition, are unacceptable.
Perhaps I misunderstand you, but: How is acceptable from an economic standpoint to have a bunch of people not paying taxes and sending that tax free money to another country? Human rights? They have none if they're not a citizen as far as I'm concerned. National security? You can't possibly sit there and tell me that is acceptable to have a porous border where just anyone can waltz in, and get a job without being documented. Surely you jest.
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wilshire said: i also don't have a problem with "outsourcing". i see opposition as usually being ignorant of economics. there is a reason we trade. it does not help our economy to limit imports.
Call me old fashioned, but I feel the majority of goods need to be produced in America. If it ain't made here, don't buy it. Export all you want, just not jobs.
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wilshire said: gun prohibition is a big issue for me. if you're anti-gun, you're out of the question as far as my vote.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
#5398947 - 03/14/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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They can enter legally if they want to be a vital part of the US. Documented, tax paying legals.
they can't, or they would. i think they should be able to do this.
Also, they should have to learn English within 1 year of being here.
i don't see why...
How is acceptable from an economic standpoint to have a bunch of people not paying taxes and sending that tax free money to another country?
what part of that is unacceptable? if they send american dollars back to mexico, that drives US exports.
Human rights? They have none if they're not a citizen as far as I'm concerned.
i disagree.
National security? You can't possibly sit there and tell me that is acceptable to have a porous border where just anyone can waltz in, and get a job without being documented.
that is the current situation, and will remain so as long as we continue to try to prevent people from coming from other countries to work here. they should be allowed to come. right now it's all underground. legalize it.
Export all you want, just not jobs.
there is no point to export unless you import.
this sums up the situation very nicely:
http://www.word-gems.com/wealth.hazlitt.exports.html
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