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Offlinedaimyo
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What Issues Matter to You?
    #5370841 - 03/06/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

When you are studying candidates(you do study before voting right?) what issues are most imporatant to your decision? Do they change from local, to state, to federal?

I vary from local to state to federal. I don't care much about local issues. My only requirement is that I have broke bread with you before. I need to know the candidate on a personal level to feel comfortable casting my vote for them.

State and federal are mostly the same issues.

For me, number one is gun control. If you are for gun control, not only are you out of the question, but I will do my best to inform everyone I know as to why you shouldn't be voted for.

Second in line is campaign finance reform. If you are takin money from companies(or their representatives), then you do not have my interests at heart.

Third is election reform. I don't like electronic voting, and I don't like the little tricks each party tries to pull to disuade voters from showing up.

Nex is immigration. Get this shit in line. I want all companies that hire illegals fined. I want all illegals rounded up and deported. Use the process in place, or stay the fuck out.

That's the major issues, the ones I will decide one way or another on. Next come the issues that may or may not sway my vote one way or another.

Marijuana - Legalize the stuff already. Plenty of tax money to be made here. Lots of uses for hemp as well.

Social security - Eliminate it. Why should I pay into something I might not get? I can save my money just fine on my own.

Trade/Outsourcing - It's time we start exporting more than our jobs. Tax companies that outsource. Stop buying other countries' products.

Taxes - This shit needs reformed as well.

Environment - A candidate should at least want to make an effort to help clean up our country. Heavy fines for/shutting down polluters.

Veterans - These people deserve more than what they get.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5370882 - 03/06/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Oddly enough, I agree with everything you've stated, with the possible exception of Gun control. To me, the only only things that should be registered with the government are Hand guns and automatic weapons.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5370898 - 03/06/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

1. Civil liberties. Say what you will about the ACLU, but I support them on almost every issue.

2. Environment. It's my planet too, dammit!

3. Taxes. Unfortunately, neither party seems to represent me on this issue. The Democrats just talk about how the rich "don't pay their fair share," while the Republicans talk about how the American people are overtaxed. If only there was a candidate that realizes its not how much you tax, but how you tax, my cynicism would be greatly alleviated.

4. The Drug War. End it. Technically, this ties into #1.

5. Foreign policy. I'm not necessarily against foreign military intervention, but for god's sake, give me a candidate who knows what he's doing. Bush Sr. was great at this, but Jr. just seems to go around pissing off the entire world.

6. Corporate welfare. There's no reason for McDonalds to be mooching off the taxpayers.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5370968 - 03/06/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

1. Foreign Policy - Reel it in
2. Pork Spending - Cut it out
3. Drug War - End It
4. Gun Control - Little to none
5. Taxes - Flat
6. Illegal immigration - Do all you can to stop it

That's all for right now.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5370973 - 03/06/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I forgot one. We need to get rid of a shitload of subsidies as well, espcially in the form of tax exemptions to large corporations.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5371058 - 03/06/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

1. foreign policy- instead of trying to show our might and power through military means we should try to show it through compassionate ways. imagine if the peace corp had a budget that was 25% of the military (ok i dont know the peace corps budget but i doubt its that high) try to make the world love us again and not either hate us or feel sorry for the mistakes we are making. also no more loopholes that allow presidents to go to war by saying its a police action or armed conflict or whatever you want to call it. if our military goes somewhere to kill somebody it should be voted on by congress. a SMALL force perhaps could be used at the presidents discretion to help out nations that need it in a timely manner(situations like rawanda)but if any more troops are to be sent over then congress must help vote on it

2.Taxes-like somebody mentioned above, how much we tax is not as important as how we tax. also trying to cover lots of loopholes that allow corporations to get large tax breaks.

3. political honesty- as impossible as it sounds i think a system should try to be made that enforces politicians to behave and act honestly and without corruption. I believe punishment and jail times rivaling those of the drug war should be emplaced here. fucking over an entire state or country that put thier trust in you to do a good/honest job is unexsusable

4. Social issues- anything that helps out the average joe should recieve more money. schools, hospitols, firefighers, public works and this sort of thing needs help. we are one of the richest nations in the world but it also appears one of the stupidest and depending on location most impoverished

5. Civil liberties- im sort of split here. I feel that the softer drugs should be controlled in the same manner as alcohol. the harder drugs perhaps could have some sort of system that would help fight addiction(unrealistic i know but perhaps something like you have to be shown to have either a job and residence and have your bills up to date and payed off before spending money on these drugs) I am however for gun control, in my mind automatic weapons have no place in hunting or target shooting. I dont see a need for handguns in our society either. people who say that only thugs will then have weapons should just carry a shotgun around all day, that way everybody will know not to fuck with you.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5371193 - 03/06/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

immigration, immigration, immigration. Thats the issue i vote on most of the time.

Issues I care about, but would concede on include abortion and gay marriage.


How about we militarize the boarders, deport the illegals (yes it can be done) and in return we guarantee abortion and gay marriage. compromise can be good.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: DieCommie]
    #5371259 - 03/06/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Apparently I'm the only guy who doesn't give two shits about immigration one way or the other. :shrug:


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5371270 - 03/06/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It seems to look that way.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Rono]
    #5371283 - 03/06/06 03:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Rono said:To me, the only only things that should be registered with the government are Hand guns and automatic weapons.


What about sex offenders? Are they not more dangerous than hand guns?


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: DieCommie]
    #5373045 - 03/07/06 12:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I am not proud of my history as a reliable voter. I feel the inclination to participate in a representational system corresponds to the wide spread social pathology in which a dynamic of submission/domination has become elemental in cultural structure.
Voting serves only to buttress our demise as freedom seeking animals/spirits/whatever. All the ?issues? further divide us along symbolic lines that have little impact on our immediate reality based lives. I?m not saying this reign of symbolism is devoid of consequence? wars, prisons, dehumanizing economic systems, rampant illness both physical and psychological, ad infinitum? however when we participate in a rotten system, no matter good intentions, our participation functions as de facto legitimization.
Please don?t misunderstand. I am not bashing America specifically as some great satan. All contemporary political/governmental systems devised by humans are severely corpulent, down right rotten, and worthy of the historical compost heap in my opinion.
I know? I?m a wing nut.
Who cares... "What issues matter to you?" Caffeine is my main issue. I'll continue to overlook civilization's failures so long as I can drink coffee all day.
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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5373236 - 03/07/06 01:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Environment
National Security
Taxes
Drug War
Civil Liberties
Immigration (primarily on a local level since I am in San Diego. Although it needs to be addressed nationally as well)
Foriegn Policy (I dont agree with it most of the time)
Dick Cheney Gun Control


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #5373364 - 03/07/06 05:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

im one of those people that doesnt vote. I have before... but turns out it didnt mean anything. The only thing I cared about was a transportation bill to build a monorail from tampa to miami.. and even though it passed with flying colors.. and the money was collected...

the project was still put on hold, and who knows where all the money went.

Voting to me seems like when a parent brings their ugly kid to a beauty pageant. You know its pointless, but you just go through the motions to keep everyone happy and in denial.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: daimyo]
    #5374998 - 03/07/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Wow, I'm pretty much totally with you, except for gun control which is absolutely a non-issue for me.

On top of all that I could never support any candidate that is pushing for a gay marriage ban. I know gay marriage is one of those sensationalist political issues that take attention away from meat and potatoes politics but I get caught up in it. I think politicians who are out to guarantee the prohibition of gay marriage should be bitch smacked by a million gay cocks right in the face.

In terms of local politicians my biggest concern is probably education. Whenever a candidate shows a serious commitment to making our schools better (especially in a city as fucked as baltimore) they get my attention. I think quality education is an underestimated key to getting this country back on track, and despite what the media says there is a lot that money and dedication can do in large urban public schools.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: kotik]
    #5375003 - 03/07/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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kotik said:
im one of those people that doesnt vote. I have before... but turns out it didnt mean anything. The only thing I cared about was a transportation bill to build a monorail from tampa to miami.. and even though it passed with flying colors.. and the money was collected...

the project was still put on hold, and who knows where all the money went.

Voting to me seems like when a parent brings their ugly kid to a beauty pageant. You know its pointless, but you just go through the motions to keep everyone happy and in denial.




Why surrender?


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5375339 - 03/07/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Freedom. It is mankinds right to be free to choose his own path. Anything getting in the way of that is evil.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: Dmonikal]
    #5376875 - 03/08/06 08:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Why surrender?




what do you mean, why did I surrender and vote that one time, or why do I "surrender" by not voting?


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5376998 - 03/08/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe it is just me, but why is gay marriage an issue at all? Why would you shoot down anyone that supports it? The way I see it is it doesnt affect me because I am not gay, so why even look at the issue. The only thing I see happening is more money going toward federal taxes.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #5378008 - 03/08/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Maybe it is just me, but why is gay marriage an issue at all? Why would you shoot down anyone that supports it? The way I see it is it doesnt affect me because I am not gay, so why even look at the issue. The only thing I see happening is more money going toward federal taxes.




First of all, I think you misunderstood. I would shoot down any politician who promised, while campaigning, that they would try and push a ban on gay marriage. Gay marriage is probably the only issue where I don't see two sides to the argument, just my side which is right. Gay marriage should be allowed. Period.

Secondly, I can think of a million reasons why you should care about issues that don't affect you personally. But as I see it, even though I am not gay, this issue does affect me personally. I believe in liberty, it is vital to my way of life and what I believe in. I believe that people should be free to live their lives how they want to, whether gay or straight. Allowing straight people to marry while preventing gay people from marrying is a slap in the face of all of us and a slap in the face of lady liberty. This is not a religious issue, this is not a moral issue, this is not a quality of life issue, this is a civil rights issue. Either you believe in civil rights for all, or you don't.

That's the way I see this argument and why it is so important to all of us. Simple matter of freedom vs. oppression.


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Re: What Issues Matter to You? [Re: kotik]
    #5378023 - 03/08/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I understand your attitude that voting is pointless, but I guess I think it is just as valid to have the attitude that voting is worthwhile. Its an optimist pessimist sort of thing. You are a smart dude, and it bums me out when I hear that smart dudes aren't voting. Just hope you can get motivated to go vote for something.


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