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OfflineVeter
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Re: If you have taken or are currently taking anti-depressants, please read: [Re: xTooL] * 1
    #5376032 - 03/07/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

SSRIs work in biological psychology. This is fairly well documented. However, SSRIs can severly mess with someone who does not have a chemical imbalance and it is completely ignorant and arrogant to believe that ALL depression is caused by a chemical imbalance...although, that is what the FDA would like you to believe.

Also, you must remember that because these doctors are highly trained does not necessarily mean that they aren't trained in a bias manner. Take psychedelics for instance. psychedelics present a very strong potential for research in the area of psychology, and yet the movement towards legalization for research purposes is almost entirely non-existant.

Regardless...very rarely are psychological problems due to biological factors, however, our highly-trained doctors and psychiatrists like to believe they are in the face of great defiance, and that is why I would be EXTREMELY cautious when being prescribed SSRIs or any other anti-depressant.


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Re: If you have taken or are currently taking anti-depressants, please read: [Re: xTooL]
    #5376173 - 03/07/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well i'm going to try to avoid medication until as a last resort.

I saw the shrink yesterday for the first time, he just asked me some general stuff. He's not even sure what's wrong yet. He says i may be dysthymic, which means being depressed for so long that you no longer realize you're depressed and accept as a normal state of being. I think he may be right.

The funny thing is, i know EXACTLY WHY i'm depressed, but i just can't bring myself to fix the problem that's causing it. If i can fix the root problem, i know the depression will go away on its on.


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Re: If you have taken or are currently taking anti-depressants, please read: [Re: moog]
    #5378164 - 03/08/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

what ive learned is if you believe a word that a shrink is saying means you are digging your own grave.
shrink = his function is to make you behave a good and content worker citizen so u are working part of the system
system = anti-life, pro-insanity
?nuff said


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Re: If you have taken or are currently taking anti-depressants, please read: [Re: budsicle]
    #5378420 - 03/08/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

not enough said.

"shrinks" are there to help you work out your problems, they are not supposed to influence you to do any particular thing or acecpt any particular world view.

you just go to talk to them and fix issues that you have, not to be brainwashed into joining the "machine"

now lets say you do lots of shamanistic work and are convinced that you have access to the spirit world, now maybe that's not something you should bring up to them....

but for people with "normal" issues, etc, having someone to talk to can be a great help.


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Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: If you have taken or are currently taking anti-depressants, please read: [Re: moog]
    #19598013 - 02/21/14 03:03 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

moog said:

1. What medication did you take?
2. How did you feel, emotionally, before medication?
3. How did you feel, emotionally, during medication?
4. If you have since stopped taking the medication, how did you feel, emotionally, a couple weeks after stopping it?
5. Are you satisfied with the results or do you regret taking the medication?
6. Any other general comments on how the medication affected you, either mentally, emotionally, or physically.





1. Started off on Amitriptyline, then was moved to Mirtazapine.  A few years later, Citalopram was added
2. Depressed, suicidal tendencies with one attempt already made and failed.
3. Confused, dazed, groggy still had same thoughts and feelings although not as easy to focus my thoughts upon them - or anything else!  Both meds taken before bed time.
4. The above two drugs had to be halted as I developed nerve damage following a car accident (they ran into the back of my car, I didn't cause the accident).  I needed to be put on a drug called Pregabalin to calm the effects of the nerve damage.  This reacts badly with Mirtazapine and / or Citalopram, so after coming of those drugs after 4 or 5 years of use I was put on the current one, Sertraline.  Since starting this medication, I can honestly say that it has done nothing for me.  Previous issues not only returned, but they had "gained weight" during their holiday from my consciousness.  Such that it is / was.  Having gotten sick of taking these for no benefit, I am now in the process of weaning myself off them and am trying hard to focus on the "feeling good" at getting them out of my daily diet.
5.  I am NOT in anyway satisfied with the results, but do NOT regret taking the medication because without the attempts at removing the way I felt from my life, then I doubt I could / would have made it this far.
6. As stated, the Mirtazapine and Citalopram made me feel groggy as hell the next day, for quite a while.  But as this eased, looking back, I would have to say that they helped a lot.  They didn't kill the problems off, but they certainly crippled the intensity of them.  This gave me the time to realise a few things abut myself and my life.  I effected certain changes which people outside of the few I hold close, understand / comprehend.  Some view my changes as eccentric, others thing I have gone over the edge and have flipped.  But I am much happier in my life, compared to where I was.  The changes to my life that I initiated have left me feeling much more comfortable on a day to day basis and so long as I hide myself away from the world then I am managing and coping with things much better - on the whole.  Please note though, that like most people, I have ups and downs and can be affected by certain "triggers" which will spark off what feel like even worse states of mind.  However, it eventually dawns upon me that although they felt intense and worse than ever at the time, so far things haven't been so in reality.
Different meds will work for different people, but remember that when it comes to the mind, YOU will have to heal yourself!!  A shrink and your GP can only help you getting there, they can't do it for you I'm sorry to say.

Best advise I can offer is to evaluate for yourself what is wrong in your life.  This is quite often hard as you have to be 100% honest with yourself and more often than not, the truth hurts.  Once you have worked out what is wrong, it will be time to begin trying to effect changes in your life to rectify them.  Don't try to sort the worst problems out.  Pick the more minor ones as they will most likely be the easiest to rectify.
Sort enough of the smaller problems out and the large ones wont seem quite as big as they did.  I personally believe that this can be compared to physical injuries.  IE - you get a large wound on your leg.  It hurts a lot, but you can just about cope with it.  Later that week, you accidentally catch the wound and not only cut it open, but you scrape up all the skin around it, leaving a graze as well as the wound.  The next day, someone knocks you off balance and you land awkwardly.  Bruising your leg quite badly where the wound is and opening up the stitches in it.  All these extra problems of a small cut and a graze or a bad bruise are minor things, yet when added to the original problem they become crippling.  And so I believe it is with the mind too!  So by sorting out the easier, less troubling problems, you have reduced the pain of the more major ones.
Something else to remember - although it's bloody hard to do so when it matters - is that stressing over things you can do nothing about only serves to hurt you.  It makes no difference to the problem itself whatsoever!  So, try to let such things just work their own way through your life and concentrate on the things you can actually do something about.  Even if it is only in a small way.  Leave the stuff you cannot do anything about for someone else to be dragged down worrying about it.

I hope that at least some of this is of some help to you mate, I truly do!

All the best and good luck with it all.

ps - drug names are those used within the UK, where I live, and may be different in the USA and other countries.


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Re: If you have taken or are currently taking anti-depressants, please read: [Re: barfightlard]
    #27958001 - 09/19/22 07:45 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I've been taking ssri's and other antidepressants for more years than I care to think about.
I wish I NEVER had started any.
I used to write good songs and music. I used to paint pictures, draw and sculpt. After starting these meds, everything left me.
I lost all will to do the things I once enjoyed. You feel no super lows. You feel no super highs. The pain in my heart that let me write all those great songs was gone. The joy that let me feel love was gone. You just "exist."
But every time I try to wean myself off of one or another med, I find myself just crawling under another rock. I am trapped in this world created by money-hungry pharmaceutical companies and doctors who could care less about how much they are poisoning people.
I'd give just about anything to feel my heart ache for someone,  or feel an explosion of joy to see an old, dear friend.
I really don't care about what doctors are saying about psilocybins and anti-depressants.
Got some GT pinning now (noob)
and will experiment carefully.
(This post is about MY experiences with anti-depressants. I am in no way speaking of others and their triumphs/tribulations with these meds)
GIVE ME LIFE, my precious little fungi!


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Re: If you have taken or are currently taking anti-depressants, please read: [Re: Tigswashroom]
    #27967532 - 09/25/22 01:00 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I was given venlafaxine without informed consent.  The shit has a super short half-life and can send you into SSRI withdrawal with a single missed dose.

I'm currently taking Prozac because it has a long half-life.  My goal is to get off these medications.

Ayahuasca and Syrian Rue plus DMT or Psilocybin I found more life-changing/affirming and you can't take either Ayahuasca or Syrian Rue while on an SSRI.

I've been on them for about 7 years now.  Did a prison stint on Venlafaxine.  Went into withdrawal multiple times when guards refused to give me my medication.  Because they're lazy asses and don't understand that SSRI withdrawal can be fatal (hello, I was put on this medication because of suicidal ideation).  Suddenly going off of it got me another felony (while locked up) and nearly ended my life.

So yeah, I like drugs.  But SSRIs, especially the ones with short half-lives, are fucking evil.


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Why should we strive with cynic frown
To knock their fairy castles down?  ~ Eliza Cook

It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley


Edited by paperbackwriter (09/25/22 01:01 PM)


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