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OfflineTeRzMaStA
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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #539106 - 02/03/02 05:53 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

nice job, but maybe i missed something. Why did you leave the crumbled cakes alone like that uncased? Aren?t you supposed to case them then let them incubate for about a week or until you see about 30-40% colonization? Doesn?t a stong mycelium network form during that week?


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: TeRzMaStA]
    #539233 - 02/03/02 11:56 AM (22 years, 22 days ago)

I follow this method due to a theory of mine. By letting the substrate sit after I break it I am allowing the mycelium to form back into one network. I case it after I see plenty of contact between chunks. I have dug up old casings in which I did not follow this method and have found islands of mycelium. On these casings I recieved lower than average yeilds. I think the loss of yeild was do to the seperation of substrate islands and a weak network. By connecting the chunks I am creating one large network rather than several small ones.

I may be FOS, but I?ve found it seems to work for me

Joshua


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #539708 - 02/03/02 09:54 PM (22 years, 22 days ago)

These "islands" of inconsistent growth are probably a result of a lack of moisture in the colonized substrate. If the mycelium fuzzes up within a day or two, that indicates that there is plenty of moisture. When it fuzzes up, all of the mycelium is already connected, and this allows neighboring chunks to transfer nutrients from "island to island." Therefore, under those conditions, growth is uniform. Allowing the mycelium to sit like that for a while just slows the fruiting process down.
If you do not see fuzzing up uniformly, then it is wise to let it happen before casing as you pointed out. But this can always be prevented by being clean when breaking the cakes up and having the correct moisture in the cakes.


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #539754 - 02/03/02 10:50 PM (22 years, 22 days ago)

makes sense. If it works I don?t see a reason not to. I just figured that if you made the substrate level even enough that it would make one big mycellium network during that week of incubation.


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: TeRzMaStA]
    #540020 - 02/04/02 05:49 AM (22 years, 22 days ago)

heheh.. once again.. blending causes the mycelium network to regenerate violently into one huge block which is very strong.. but I digress.


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Hammerloaf]
    #540525 - 02/04/02 05:56 PM (22 years, 21 days ago)

These pics are getting me very, VERY psyched! I have 6 jars of PR?s in BRF substrate growing right now, and I just added a heating pad to them today to speed things up. Unfortunately, 1 of the jars didn?t do anything at all, but none of the jars got contaminated (knock on wood). Since it is my first time ever growing shrooms, I was planning on just growing them right off the cakes, but after seeing these pictures, I think I might attempt to case them due to the lucrative fruits that casing has to offer. Any suggestions for my first time?

Anyway, keep up the great work Josh...I can?t wait to see the fruits off of that casing! BTW, how many cakes did you use for that substrate layer?


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: anon13579]
    #540814 - 02/04/02 11:42 PM (22 years, 21 days ago)

1 cake was used in the casing.

Hammerloaf, you have convinced me to try your method, look forward to seeing blended substrates in casings soon.

I will post pics as soon as mycelium pokes through.

Joshua


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #543222 - 02/07/02 01:04 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

I removed part of the original casing layer after two days w/o seeing any casing penetration. That was yesterday. I now see growth penetrating the casing. I will place the casing in the fruiting chamber soon. Look forward to seeing fruits soon.





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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #543226 - 02/07/02 01:08 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

that looks good. You?re a pretty good cultivator.


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: TeRzMaStA]
    #543245 - 02/07/02 01:28 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

Aww shucks...Thanks.

I?m still learning and have a long way to go before I match the feats and quality of some of my fellow cultivators.

Joshua


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #543251 - 02/07/02 01:31 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

I hope you?re birthing that bitch Joshua

The puertos are a pain in the ass sometimes and tend to stall.

SERIOUSLY watch for overlay.

The Puertos take a while to grow sometimes.

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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: jokerGD]
    #543256 - 02/07/02 01:36 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

I am planning on starting the fruiting in 12 hours. Should I start it now?

Joshua


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #543268 - 02/07/02 01:57 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

looks very rhizmorphic im happy:)


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #543449 - 02/07/02 08:14 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

certainly looks like you could start it now..


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Hammerloaf]
    #543496 - 02/07/02 09:32 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

I think I will. Pic?s to follow shortly.

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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #545531 - 02/09/02 01:54 AM (22 years, 17 days ago)

Annihilation

Here are pics of my PR annihilating my casing layer. I have knocked it back twice with water. I figure the water will serve two purposes. I will slow the mycelium down and it will ensure a moist casing layer. I am placing ice packs underneath it to hopefuly shock it into fruiting. If overlay occurs I will be sure to scratch it.






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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #545647 - 02/09/02 08:58 AM (22 years, 17 days ago)

That casing is getting raped! Almost as bad as my Maz?s are. Too bad my digicam is broken. *cries*


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #546007 - 02/09/02 05:53 PM (22 years, 16 days ago)

Josh,

Very healthy looking bro.

I hope it doesn?t overlay on you.

Good luck !!!


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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #546815 - 02/10/02 05:27 PM (22 years, 15 days ago)

It looks like I messed it up. To remedy my problem I will be adding additional casing. As soon as I see casing penetration I will place the casing in the refridgerator for 24hrs. That should halt further casing colonisation and initiate pinning.

Any better ideas?





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Re: Puerto Rican Start [Re: Joshua]
    #546833 - 02/10/02 05:47 PM (22 years, 15 days ago)

>Any better ideas?

No. What you described should work.


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