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OfflineTurricaN
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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5367931 - 03/05/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, I was also wondering about that too.

As for the advice from everyone, thanks! I think I will probably wait until I have a sitter available before trying it, but that will probably take more than a month.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5369883 - 03/06/06 05:21 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I say not to use the water, and not to use the torch.

you can draw faster without water in the device, and so burn the material faster at a lower pressure and lower the vaproization temp of salvinorin.

water and piping condense salvinorin from the smokestream.

drawing hard encourages the vaporization at lower temperatures by lowing the air pressure.

it seems counterintuitive, but you get a more effective smoke, without bubbling, and with a hard fast pull and a long hold.

if you add a torch and you will want the water, so tech requires the other, and the net result is loss of salvinorin to the water.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5370648 - 03/06/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm... I will have to buy a non-torch lighter then. :smile:


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5371104 - 03/06/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

This is kind of strange. *Everything* I have read up until now has highly recommended a torch lighter. I like your logic, though.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: fazdazzle]
    #5371304 - 03/06/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

your mouth and lungs will appreciate the no torch approach


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: fazdazzle]
    #5371747 - 03/06/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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fazdazzle said:
This is kind of strange. *Everything* I have read up until now has highly recommended a torch lighter. I like your logic, though.



I was responding to the previous post in particular. I don't know really though. I mean, I'll probably end up using the torch and water, just as I'm used to with marijuana. Besides, I'd never remember to buy an ordinary lighter anyways.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5371809 - 03/06/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I think there is more room for bad info with a drug like salvia.
People experience it so very differently, so people are likely to make up funny little ways to fix the problem of "I cant seem to really trip off of it".
The first time I tried 5x I had a mindblowing 3 min experience. It really shook me.
I know some people less experienced with hallucinogens who said they didnt feel much at all, needless to say I was stunned. All I used was a simple pipe and a simple lighter.
A torch lighter is something I dont want to mess with. It is just so hot, and I dont see any reason for it.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5371902 - 03/06/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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TurricaN said:
Hey everyone.

My curiousity regarding Salvia finally got the better of me and I have just ordered some 15x from here.

I've read a lot regarding Salvia, including effects, trip reports, etc.  even watched a documentary on it, but I still have a couple of questions.

I was wondering whether I should wait until someone can 'sit' for me during the experience, or whether I should be okay alone?  I've read contradicting informations, some that gives me the impression that a person under the effects of Salvia cannot move, whilst another source stated that some people get up and wander around without knowing they are doing it, and therefore it's a good idea to have someone there to stop you from doing that.

I only have experience with mushrooms (11 trips over 14 months) and marijuana (about 12 months, once every two weeks average)...  But I am very comfortable tripping alone on these, usually more so than when I am with someone else (even someone who I really trust).

Also, it should work from a water bong right?  My understanding is that most people use a pipe, but I only have a bong.

Finally, how is music with Salvia?  I have had some pretty profound experiences whilst listening to some music on mushrooms and marijuana, but I have read that Salvia is best experienced in silence?  If I were to use music, I would only use very quiet, calming, background music, but right now I'm thinking it might be better to go with the advice of silence, just to be safe. :smile:

Cheers,
Martin




Im just answering the title, sorry im slightly preoccupied, if you plan on breakingthrough then a sitter is a must on the list, you can literally lose all consciousness and start aimlessly walking or running and could give you bruises and possibly the act of running around like a fool can kill you if you end up doing something that.. would kill you lol.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5371973 - 03/06/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Nah, I dont think you should use it alone. I hear the trips can get pretty intense (equivalent to LSD) and people usally have someone there to keep them calm.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: BlAcKjAcK]
    #5372344 - 03/06/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

What are you talking about dude, salvia is NO WHERE compared to lsd. salvia makes LSD look pitiful.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: ChickenNugget]
    #5372441 - 03/06/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

My 1st experience was awesome and it lead to many more. I was sitting at my computer and decided to download some Sitar music. To be precise, it was Ravi Shankars "Hunam Chalsa" I decide to take a rip of salvia by myself. I take two monster rips from my glass pipe and then set it aside and wait with my arms folded. Next thing I know, I'm still sitting in my computer chair, but I am inverted on the ceiling looking down at myself in the chair. I was GONE! Then after a split second it seemed like, I was back down, but laying on my bed, but I was inside it with myself laying on me. I started to laugh histerically and that's when I felt the Needle Blanket! I felt thousands of tiny pin pricks all over me as if my circulation had been cut off all over the top half of my body. Then I start to come out of it, and find myself sitting in my chair, laughing some more.... And that was only the non-standardized 10.

I will never forget that journey.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: Jeeter]
    #5373504 - 03/07/06 08:15 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like it's going to be pretty intense.

Well, the salvia arrived this morning, I have it in my hand now. :smile:

But, though the temptation is great, I'm going to wait until I have a sitter though before trying it.  I don't know anyone who has done Salvia except for one friend who said "Don't bother with Salvia, it doesn't do anything.".

I'll probably wait until I see my bro again so he can watch me (he doesn't have much experience with psychodelics, only 4 shroom trips, but he has the right attitude towards psychodelics), so it will probably be 2 weeks before I try it.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: ChickenNugget]
    #5374279 - 03/07/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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ChickenNugget said:
What are you talking about dude, salvia is NO WHERE compared to lsd. salvia makes LSD look pitiful.




I didnt say it was, I said it gives LSD like effects, as in the visuals...


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5374384 - 03/07/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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TurricaN said:
Sounds like it's going to be pretty intense.

Well, the salvia arrived this morning, I have it in my hand now. :smile:

But, though the temptation is great, I'm going to wait until I have a sitter though before trying it.  I don't know anyone who has done Salvia except for one friend who said "Don't bother with Salvia, it doesn't do anything.".

I'll probably wait until I see my bro again so he can watch me (he doesn't have much experience with psychodelics, only 4 shroom trips, but he has the right attitude towards psychodelics), so it will probably be 2 weeks before I try it.




you could find an open field or something outside where it would be difficult to hurt yourself in about a 3 minute period of time...


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5378294 - 03/08/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, it looks like I might have a sitter available sooner than I think.  It's possible that one or two friends will be visiting me tomorrow.  I'm rather excited now. :smile:


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5393730 - 03/12/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

So, you're going dancing with Sally.
I hope She's nice to you. She can be a crazy bitch at times. I'm not saying she's mean, just a little hard to understand sometimes.
I'm glad you're waiting for a sitter. The last thing you need running through your head is a list of what if's. You probably wouldn't have any problems alone but, you will be able to feel more secure, knowing you have friends around.
Show them were the phone is. Just in case.
Ask them to keep you from hurting yourself.
And tell them not to start asking a bunch of fuckin questions about your date, untill you get back. If they don't know her they will try.

Good luck
Have fun
Be safe

then come back and tell us all about it.


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Re: Just ordered some Salvia... Should I use alone? [Re: cricket]
    #5394317 - 03/13/06 04:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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cricket said:
then come back and tell us all about it.



I already did.  :smile:

Take a look, it is in the trip reports forum under "3 first timers try Salvia 15X Extract - Mixed results".
It was a very interesting experience, and one that I am eager to repeat. :smile:


Edited by TurricaN (03/13/06 04:10 AM)


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