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Horse Poo alternative?
    #5364437 - 03/04/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Sweet. My friend owns a farm with no horses, but chickens and cows. He said that i could have all thie shit I wanted. I heard that because cows have 4 stomachs that it is not the greatest poo in the world. I was thinking I might be able to mix it with some chicken poo for more nutrients. Is that viable? Also, the poo is pre-mixed with straw. It's been sitting in a barn all winter, so I don't know if that classifies as leeching. Does it? And finally, he also said I could use all the straw I want, so should I skip the cow poo or chicken/cow poo(pre-mixed with straw) and just use only straw? Thanks for the help and I swear this is the last time I'll ask about poo or straw. haha


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: sivad02487]
    #5364463 - 03/04/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

from what i gather, cow shit works pretty well mixed with straw, not as good as hpoo, but whatever, use whatcha got right. chicken poo is generally not used, except for very small amounts in some compost. Ive never had a straw grow not contam. none of my poo ones have. some people have luck with straw though. Id just use the cow poo straw mix and see


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: fungiamongi2]
    #5364488 - 03/04/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I would say cow poo/straw would be ideal. Like he said not as good as Hpoo from what I here but second best I think. So make a 50/50 straw/Cpoo.


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We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: Akira]
    #5364505 - 03/04/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you could use straight straw.


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: Drone]
    #5364512 - 03/04/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

But with Cpoo available also why use straw on its own..? Im sure Cpoo has nutritients the mushrooms will love. The straw will just give the Cpoo a better texture from what ive read, but the Cpoo carries the nutrients. Free Cow shit, free straw, might as well take em both and mixem up.


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"Our intention is our eternal fingerprint in the universe."

We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: Akira]
    #5364544 - 03/04/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

What else can I throw in with the C.Poo and straw mix? I mean, to make it more nutritional? Ive heard some shit about adding calcium or some shit like that.


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: sivad02487]
    #5364547 - 03/04/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

worm castings, coir, and chunky verm

kelp, bloodmeal, sea weed extract, et cetera


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #5364551 - 03/04/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Just randomly throw in a little bit of each? And I did read about adding bloodmeal and worm casings. Where do I find these and how much would I use if I was going to be doing a 66 quart double tub? (My spawn is WBS)


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #5364554 - 03/04/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

And, chicken manure as long as it's been aged in the sun and totally dry. Use no more than 5%, which is one cup of chicken manure for each twenty cups of cow or other ingredient. You'll see some monsters. No more than a tablespoon or two of blood meal for a full bin of manure/straw. The other ingredients all work fairly well by themselves, so mix in whatever proportion you have available.
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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5364573 - 03/04/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, the chicken poo has been sitting in a coop all winter. Is there a way that I can speed up the ageing and drying? I live in michigan and it still is the middle of winter


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: sivad02487]
    #5364648 - 03/04/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

LOL@ still in the middle of winter. Where I live, we're ignorant that such a thing as winter even exists. :frown: Im moving to North America soon, damn the sunny South, I hardly ever even go to the beach anyways.....


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"Our intention is our eternal fingerprint in the universe."

We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: Akira]
    #5365335 - 03/04/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, Winter to someone who hasn't lived through a shit load of them is great. To everyone else that goes through that frozen hell every year think it sucks.


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: Akira]
    #5368178 - 03/05/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

because straw colonizes and fruits fast as crap. Its easy to work with. Its easy as hell to get. Straw has more nutes than people think. Id rather just make straw double tubs then mess with poo, but then again I live in an apartment with roomates.


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: Drone]
    #5373508 - 03/07/06 08:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, me too. I also heard that there is a couple different types of straw. Should I get wheat straw, or something else?


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: sivad02487]
    #5373832 - 03/07/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

a common mistake new growers make is to think they want as much nutrients as possible. This opens the door to contamination, stagnation and slow growth. Nutrients are essential, but it is better if they are conditioned to the selectivity of the mycelium. You want a fast spawn run to take over the substrate. I'd be careful with the chicken maneure. it has alot of nitrogen.


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Re: Horse Poo alternative? [Re: sivad02487]
    #5376699 - 03/08/06 06:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

wheat straw is good


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