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Offlineretardricky
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is 2 weeks too long
    #535929 - 01/30/02 03:04 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Ok sorry I fucked up the first time. I used brf and verm. for a substrate with fish tank water. I sterilized using a pot for lack of a pc. Innoculated with a cambodian syringe. I have them in the 2 tub incubator with one tub inside the other and a fish tank heater heating the water its at about 80 degrees. 1 week passed and only one jar showed signs of growth. 2 weeks later and still just the one its about 25% covered. Should I wait for growth or start over what do you guys think. Again sorry about the fuck up


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OfflineXAZIA
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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: retardricky]
    #535977 - 01/30/02 03:42 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

no sweat...hmmm
i have no experience with fish tank water and have not heard much about its use. from my understanding though it is used for the benefit of the diverse microorganisms, some which are beneficial to mushrooms. fish tank water is basically an ecosystem of its own. but i do not see how this is beneficial if the water is sterilize, thus killing all organisms which are thriving in the water.

but maybe your sterilization process was not efficient and some other bacteria or organism is thriving in your jars.

or as i suggested earlier, did you sterilize the needle after each jar. possibly the jar with growth is the first jar you innoculated and after that you simple transfered contaminates to the rest of the jars.

can you determine if the jars with no growth are contaminated or not, like i said earlier, with this rash of recent posts i am leary to tell anyone to "smell" their jars, but try to "waft" the scent towards your nose by holding the jar about a foot from your face and "fanning" any smell or aromas that might be coming from the jars towards you. or see if there is s strange smell in your incubator.


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: retardricky]
    #535985 - 01/30/02 03:51 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah its a little bit long to wait to see any growth.

Can you get the temp up to 84 to 86 degrees ?

Looking at your jars.....do they look too moist or too dry ?

How long did you boil your jars ?

Did you get your syringe from a reputable Vendor ?





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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: Roadkill]
    #535993 - 01/30/02 03:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

you didnt say that you used fish tank water did you.

That little chekmark that says" I want to preview my post"
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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: Under_net]
    #536004 - 01/30/02 04:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Yes fish tank water. Some of the jars have a tiny bit of condensation some don't I ground my own rice flower so there are little chunks of rice in there and they look like cooked rice rather than all brown like it was when I bought it.


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: retardricky]
    #536020 - 01/30/02 04:20 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

was the rice you ground organic?


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: Roadkill]
    #536021 - 01/30/02 04:24 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Oh yeah I boiled them for 45 min. I got the spores from a shroomerite on here. 1 jar is colonizing so I don't think its the spores


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: XAZIA]
    #536027 - 01/30/02 04:27 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Yup I got it from the organic store and even made sure to ask if it had any chemicals in it.


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: retardricky]
    #536037 - 01/30/02 04:35 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

hmmm...i don't know ricky. but i do know you should be seeing some signs of growth two weeks after innoculation. maybe someone more experienced can share their theories, i'm sorry i couldn't help!

i would try also like someone suggested to get the temp up to around 84-85, i will speed things up a little. maybe you can salvage your oNE jar. if it is only 25% after 2 weeks it is dangerously close to growing slow enough for contaminates to gain a foot hold. make sure you keep your incubator clean and add some h202 to your incubator water. keep a can of lysol right next to it. spray the air before opening and closing your lid.
good luck!!


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: XAZIA]
    #536051 - 01/30/02 04:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Thanx again Xasia and everybody else for that matter. I really do appreciate the help.


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: retardricky]
    #536070 - 01/30/02 05:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Ricky,

Are you really retarded?
That might be the problem!
Just Joking with you.

I really don't know what is wrong.
Been thinking about this and can't figgure this one out.
I know that fish tank water is good for growing weed.
I don't have fish anymore.....after 20 years i got rid of them.
Basically fish water is a fertilizer....if i had fish still i might try out a jar or 2.
Just to see if it does work.

You still haven't told us if your jars look dry or wet inside.

If it looks too wet....you either used too much water or spore juice.
If it looks too dry....thats not gonna work either.


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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: Roadkill]
    #536667 - 01/31/02 08:52 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The moisture looks fine. It just looks like cooked rice mixed with verm. There is a little bit of condensation on the inside of the glass but there is no puddle of water on the bottom


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: retardricky]
    #536838 - 01/31/02 01:21 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like your jars don't have too much water in them.....then.

Did you shake up your syringe before you inoculated the jars?

You got me baffled.


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: retardricky]
    #536842 - 01/31/02 01:25 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I have only used flour.....maybe since its chunky it will take longer.

Maybe chunky rice isn't a good thing.

Maybe someone that has tried using chunky rice can tell you if it worked for them.


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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: retardricky]
    #536855 - 01/31/02 01:35 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

you wouldn't happen to use anti algae chemicals in your fish tank would you? Or those chemical drops that keep your fish's scales from growing alge. that could be your problem.


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: arkendave]
    #536864 - 01/31/02 01:48 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

No algea chemicals I got one of those fish that eat that stuff. Could it maybe be the blood in the water. I have a phiranna. I have no clue either.


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: retardricky]
    #536958 - 01/31/02 04:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

"blood in the water"?????
just what type of fish tank is this ricky?


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Re: is 2 weeks too long [Re: XAZIA]
    #536967 - 01/31/02 04:17 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I have a phiranna and after I murder somebody I just put the body in the tank and 2 days later..........NO EVIDENCE
j/k the phiranna fucks those fish up


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