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Thinking about chewing salvia (quids)
    #5358732 - 03/02/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I got some plain salvia leaves and haven't done it yet, I was thinking of trying this, (FOUND HERE <a href=">>>" target="_blank">http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html</a>)
"THE QUID METHOD:
A ball or cylinder of rolled-up leaves is made. This is called a quid. It is to be chewed. The leaves are chewed slowly--about one chew every 10 seconds. They are kept under your tongue between chews. For half an hour keep the quid that is being chewed, and the juice that forms, in your mouth. If you can, hold it in your mouth without spitting or swallowing. Then, after the half-hour chewing time is over, spit it all out. Have a bowl to spit into, and a towel handy. Salvia juice stains carpets and other fabrics, so be sure the bowl won't tip over.

Quids can be made from either fresh leaves or dried leaves. Those made from dry leaves are less bitter. To make a quid from dried leaves, weigh out 2-8 grams of dried leaves. A gram scale accurate enough for this can be purchased for under $50. If you have no scale, count out 8 to 28 large whole dried leaves. Place the leaves in a small bowl of cool water for 10 minutes. Once the leaves are wet and have been soaking for about 10 minutes, remove the leaves from the water, squeeze the excess water out of them, and ball them up into a quid. Some people skip this soaking step when they are in a hurry, but chewing on brittle dry leaves may be unpleasant. If you wish, you can sweeten the quid with sugar, honey, Stevia extract or an artificial sweetener like (insert brand). This will make it less bitter and more pleasant to chew.

If fresh leaves are used instead of dry ones, you will need from 8 to 28 large fresh leaves.

The effect of Salvia quids can probably be increased by first treating your mouth in a special way to increase its ability to absorb salvinorin A. To do this you will need a toothbrush and an alcohol/menthol containing mouthwash such as (insert brand), (or any other brand that contains alcohol and menthol). Gently brush the lining of your mouth, including the tissue under your tongue, and the top surface of your tongue. This removes layers of dead cells normally present. Do not brush hard enough to cause bleeding. Then rinse with the mouthwash for at least 30 seconds. Be sure to get mouthwash everywhere in your mouth, including under your tongue. Then spit out the mouthwash and rinse once with water.

You will experience very little in the first 12 to 15 minutes of chewing. Don't be misled by this. Full effects are usually felt by 30 minutes (the time you spit out the quid). They remain on this level for about 30-60 minutes more, then start to decrease. The whole experience seldom lasts longer than an hour and a half, but this varies."


IF anyone's tried it (quids)it would be cool to hear how it worked and what size quids you rolled. I have some plain leaf, not extract fortified, it's been dried but seems a little damp, in that it doesn't crumble much, I don't know if that's normal for salvia (hopefully it means it's on the fresh side. The fact that it's damp makes me think it could a bitch to smoke and good to chew.

Anyhow, I'll bump this thread with an update if and when I try it!!!


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Re: Thinking about chewing salvia (quids) [Re: TheWay]
    #5359060 - 03/02/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I think its a great method. SOme people just want massive visuals and a good time when they take hallucinogens. This is not for those people.
I can feel a half a leaf very easily. If I want an experience, I would eat about 7 leaves. I wouldnt go beyond the 7 leaf point the first time. Like many people you wont find that to be all that intense, but you should find it to be interesting. From there up the dose.
Dont swallow the juice(you can but I wouldnt recommend it).
Dont expect it to be as increadible as smoking a bunch of extract.
And dont expect it to last for only as long as is said in the article you posted. If you use quids it lasts for about 2 hours or more.
For people who dont know much about hallucinogens they wont care for this method.
For the more experienced few, quids are WELL worth your time, especially if you have an oz of damp leaves sitting around.

By the way, lots of people feel it within 2 min or less. The longer you hold it in, the better that dose will work. I am tripping VERY hard by the time I spit those leaves out, although I could just keep them in and the experience would last longer, and I dont mind the taste, so sometimes I just keep chewing/tripping.
SOme people would say that it takes around 20 leaves to feel it. I dont have any idea where the hell those types of people must be coming from. Like I said one leaf can be easily felt. You would be surprized.


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Re: Thinking about chewing salvia (quids) [Re: TheWay]
    #5359063 - 03/02/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

When i get around to ordering some leaf i will definately try this. i dont mind the taste of salvia but the smoke tastes like shit!


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Re: Thinking about chewing salvia (quids) [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5359086 - 03/02/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You really should sun dry those puppies, or just lay them out on a a few surfaces indoors and let them dry. Just so they dont get moldy and then your next thread could end up being, "lung infection from salvia poisoning" or something like that.


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Re: Thinking about chewing salvia (quids) [Re: stemmer]
    #5359380 - 03/02/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i have about .3-.5 of 10X extract from IAS left. i don't feel like smoking it and never have used sublingually. can i do the quid method with the extract, or no? .3-.5 10X enough?


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Re: Thinking about chewing salvia (quids) [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5359424 - 03/02/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Oh...you should feel that amount of extract sublingually. If not that you should have what is the equivalent to a subtle elongated smoked salvia trip.

If someone gave me a dose like that without my knowing(assuming I swallowed it with food or something which would be less effective than if held in the mouth), Id probably become violent toward that person, and I am anything but violent.


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