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the shock didnt come from the transplant, they were transplanted before i even picked them up and they were doing fine.
I dont know what happened to him, the guy who propagated our seeds for us took a few seedlings as payment. His are doing beautifully and he did the same thing to his as he did to mine.
So i did, or didnt do, something along the way that he did and my plants suffered/died because of it.
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5418656 - 03/19/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also, make sure they have a high N food. Helps them grow big n strong. They may still recover so don't give up on them. If they suffered root damage during the move it may take them 1 week + before you see any new growth. Don't bin them till they're actually dead and rotting, I've seen plants recover from some pretty major stress.
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5418667 - 03/19/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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coda said: the shock didnt come from the transplant, they were transplanted before i even picked them up and they were doing fine.
I dont know what happened to him, the guy who propagated our seeds for us took a few seedlings as payment. His are doing beautifully and he did the same thing to his as he did to mine.
So i did, or didnt do, something along the way that he did and my plants suffered/died because of it.
mmm.... you'll have to speak to him then. You metioned heat stress, but they should of recovered from that by now in your new room. Speak to your friend find out everything he's doing. Temps, light cycle (are you using 18 or 24 hours light?), nutrients etc. If we could have some pics of the plants and grow room i could help further. Cos if there's something we have missed then your clones won't fair any better either.
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Re: Finally! [Re: DrJ]
#5418995 - 03/19/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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the only thing done differently was heat and air circulation. He used a nutrient rich soil, so me feeding my plants that one time could have also added to my troubles.
I havent transplanted them yet, i was told not to by the guy who propagated my seeds for me. However, i am going to do ONE plant that looks like its almost on its last legs. Im not really giving up on them, im just at the point where i dont care what happens to them because i have a good backup plan.
I still have one plant that looks ok compared to the others, out of all of them its doing the best. But i havent seen much growth on it lately, the new leaves coming in stay the same but arent yellowing. The bottom leaves are all yellow by now.
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5419351 - 03/19/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well now that you have then plants in a 3x3 room heat and air shouldn't be a problem with only 1 600w light. Though a bit of circulation would help. If they are still alive and nnot getting any worse you must be doing something right, and look on the bright side, at least if any of these lot survive they'll be stunted for a little while so your new cuttings will have time to catch up. Also, did you say you used soil (as in from your garden)? I don't know how good it is but you better using compost and perilite (maybe some clay pebbles thrown in for good messure). Also checvk the pH of the run off water. Plants can't absorb nutrients from a meduim with too high a pH. 6 is a good pH for most mediums(its the run off that counts not the feed water, when using soil).
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TheMadConductor said: Yeah, Alaskan Thunderfuck is a supposed hybrid of the original, but yeah, still contains those potential genetics of a plant that grew bud with the THC content of some hash.
that would have to be some fake hash. I wouldnt consider anything less than 80% thc to be hash... and no pot plant is anywhere near 80% thc
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Re: Finally! [Re: DrJ]
#5419418 - 03/19/06 05:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I havent built my cabinet yet, i just moved the plants from that one closet to the one in my room. The on in my room is shallower but longer, it also stays cool easier. I think the soil used was miracle gro, i wouldnt knock it because he starts all his seedlings in that soil and he's grown some nice nugs. They're also back under my shop lights.
I bought a 20 lb bag of foxfarm soil, i have perlite already, and i just transferred one of the plants into the bigger container today. We'll see if that makes any bit of a difference.
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5419441 - 03/19/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh. When you said 'soil' I thought you ment garden soil. Nothing wrong with miracle gro compost, I use it for germinating my veg and herbs in.
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Re: Finally! [Re: DrJ]
#5436395 - 03/23/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Small Update:
Its been a little bit, but, the plants havent been doing much. However i transplanted one plant last week which was looking ok but not doing anything. A week later it has the strong skunk smell again and is showing new growth, it even has two 5 pointed leaves.
So, i dont know if its because the roots needed more room, or because the soil i transplanted to was better suited for the seedlings. So, a small victory, the plant is growing again and looking nice and green. Ill be transplanting one more, if that plant does the same thing ill be doing it to all of them.
Maybe there's more hope here then i thought
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5436470 - 03/23/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds like your past the fragile seedling stage, they'll do much better from here.
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5436524 - 03/23/06 11:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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coda... you should be transplanting ALL of them now... you said the roots grew to the sides of the container... that's a sure sign to be transplanting (next time you should avoide letting them grow so much in a small pot)
i think i got you confused and i'm sorry about that! if you take them out of the pot and the roots are all around you should loosen them up befor you put them in the new pot (don't disturbe all the soil... just the roots that go around)
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Re: Finally! [Re: Simisu]
#5436654 - 03/23/06 11:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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see but thats the thing, i took a look at pics of root bound plants and my roots dont look anything like that. Not to mention the fact that the person who prop'ed my seeds have them still in the 6 inch pots and they look fantastic.
I dunno, i will be transplanting them all, i just dont want to make any rash decisions and further add to my problems. However i think they'll do a lot better once they get into the bigger pot.
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5436943 - 03/24/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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bigger pots are key.
every time i transplant a plant (whether it bee weed, salvia, or anything) they always show a growth spurt in the new pot.
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Re: Finally! [Re: eligal]
#5438325 - 03/24/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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eligal said: bigger pots are key.
every time i transplant a plant (whether it bee weed, salvia, or anything) they always show a growth spurt in the new pot.
Agreed. Though they usually slow down for a day or two whilst they get used to their new environment. If you use a hydro medium you can get away with pots half the size, maybe less than that if your using an all water system.
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Re: Finally! [Re: DrJ]
#5439286 - 03/24/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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well i transplanted another, the first transplant is now officially looking awesome. Dark green and noticable growth within 18 hrs. Its still not sprinting, but at least its growing again!
Foxfarm + bigger pots = k3y!
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5446900 - 03/27/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just a small update, i went and transplanted them all on fri of last week. One of them is already showing signs of perking up (leaves are going horizontal instead of drooping, also the smell is more apparent again), all of the others are still in the same state but i know they'll start looking better in a few days.
On the really good looking plant a new set of leaves came in, another set is growing fast, and i have new nodes forming at the brances. It's growing fast as shit too, im really glad i toughed it out and kept them alive! Thankfully i learned patience from growing mushies
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5447065 - 03/27/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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coda said: Just a small update, i went and transplanted them all on fri of last week. One of them is already showing signs of perking up (leaves are going horizontal instead of drooping, also the smell is more apparent again), all of the others are still in the same state but i know they'll start looking better in a few days.
On the really good looking plant a new set of leaves came in, another set is growing fast, and i have new nodes forming at the branches. It's growing fast as shit too, I'm really glad i toughed it out and kept them alive! Thankfully i learned patience from growing mushies
Glad to hear it dude. I re-potted some cuttings last week and they didn't show any new growth till the last two days (but didn't droop or anything). But they certainly didn't enjoy the experience. Give em a nice high N food now and they'll be growing in leaps and bounds in no time!!
Give us some more pics in a week or so if possible! Everyone likes a happy ending!!! lol
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Re: Finally! [Re: DrJ]
#5447363 - 03/27/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The foxfarm soil i use has guano and another source of N (worm castings i think) so i dont need to add any additional ferts for a little while now! Makes my life easier, i can't get over how rich this soil is, it feels like silk when it comes straight out of the bag. My plants seem to love it as well, ive just been giving them some water every 3-4 days and they seem to be liking the schedule so im going to stick with it.
I think another problem i was having was water retention, ever since i switched to the new soil and put some trays under the pots, they've shown marked improvement.
Thanks for all the suport guys, i would have most likely trashed these guys a while ago if i hadn't been given some encouragement to fix my problems. As much as i like to have a problem free grow it really screws you if you run into issues and dont know how to deal with them. Now i feel super confident about starting new plants, i know now that i have the ability to recognize and fix a problem with my plants.
:sigh: is it harvest time yet? hehe
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5475116 - 04/03/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thought it was time for a little update. Its a day over a month since i brought these plants home. They're finally looking like they should be





The big plant is obviously the first test transplant, its about a week and a few days ahead of the others. The runt of the group finally started showing signs of life a few days ago. Things are running smoothly im watering roughly every 4-5 days and they seem to be liking it. I noticed some irregular growth so i figured it was because they got too close to the light. I raised it today and put the books underneath to get them a bit closer but still allow some room for quick growth.
Since the grow got all fucked up because of the problems i have i got thrown completely off the time frame. Can any give me a guesstimate on when i might be seeing preflowers on my large plant? I was thinking about another month.
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Re: Finally! [Re: coda]
#5475253 - 04/03/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice one dude. As much as i h8 to admit it, a good soil grow can beat a hydro grow. But you need to know your 'shit'. You obviously do!!
Cool (hydro is easier though :P) lol
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