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A few Noob q's
    #5356827 - 03/02/06 09:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

alright, i'm tryin' this for the first time. my first question is, how long should theese jars take to colonize? I used the basic cult. guide on this website (third one down i believe), using brf/verm. it's about 70 degrees where they are (soon to change once the rest of my supplies arrive), its been almost a week, and only two of eight are starting to show ANY sign of 'whiteness'. this leads to my other questions. the spore syringes i got barely had ANY 'specks' in them (had to look real hard!), is that normal? and, if not, is that whats affecting my col. time? my last question, for now, is about substrate. what are better things to use than verm/brf and in what ratio? i also see alot of people that aren't using jars, but rather aluminum trays...how hard is that to sterelize and get going, and is there any reason i couldn't use the same F/C after birthing (small styrofoam ice chest....assuming ofcourse that the cake will fit)? thanks guys!


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: bombardier420]
    #5356856 - 03/02/06 09:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Where did you purchase your spore syringes from? And what strain was it? I just got some from spores101.com and mine look the same as you described with barely any spores in them. I think that when I inoculate I will use more than the suggested 1cc per jar to help speed up the colonization time, then after that take my own prints and then make my own ultra rich syringes. I gotta go now cause I am going to inoculate right now. Best of luck man!! Keep us posted..


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: bombardier420]
    #5356860 - 03/02/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

cakes usually take around 2-3 weeks.

vendor syringes aren't dark black like some of the users syringes because the vendors decide how much spores to put in every syringe.
don't worry because there are thouisands and thousands of spores in that syringe.

some of us do 1 print in 1 syringe and that's why ours are darker.
U shouldn't worry just shake the syringe good when you inoculate jars.


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: fasttrigga]
    #5356866 - 03/02/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

kool, thats kinda what i figured....they're tryin to make each print go as far as they can. the strains i used were EQ and TAZ, i also bought Cambo, B+, and Oaxaca as part of the package deal. BTW, they are from sporelab.


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5356868 - 03/02/06 09:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

So since I am using syringes from a supplier do you think that putting 5cc(as opposed to 1cc) would help or hurt the cakes?


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: HSIHd]
    #5356885 - 03/02/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

it will hurt the cakes. First off it would throw off the water content, and secondly you;d have an ungodly amount of substrains competing for colonization

Injecting a lot of spore solution only HINDERS your grow. If you want faster colonization time use a liquid culture or grain to grain transfer.

BTW to the original poster your temps are too low thats why the growth is so slow.


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: HSIHd]
    #5356887 - 03/02/06 10:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

on my first grow i grew south american and they are a very aggressive colonizer and fruiter. well i didn't see anything growing for a few day and ended up injecting the whole syringe. what a waste IMO. if i only knew then what i know now i would have waited longer.


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: HSIHd]
    #5356890 - 03/02/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

it will not help, beleve it it or not you really dont want 10 kabillion spores in each jar ,the best case how ever imposible to do with a spore syrenge is to only have (2) spores in each jar or to enoculate with just a small peace of mated miceliia,


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: Dem_Bones]
    #5356924 - 03/02/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah your temps are too low... 70 is too low for the 'whiteness' to grow. Keep those jars around 84-86 and you should see noticable growth


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: freshlyPLUMP]
    #5356973 - 03/02/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Damn I should have read this before I inoculated. I just used 10cc between three 1/2pint jars. Think this will affect the moisture ratio in the jars???? Well I guess some of us have to learn the hard way..


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: freshlyPLUMP]
    #5356977 - 03/02/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

whats the best way to get the temp up and still keep it regulated??


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Re: A few Noob q's [Re: bombardier420]
    #5356990 - 03/02/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)



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