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Raw opium
    #5354818 - 03/01/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If one was to score opium poppy pods and scrape the latex/raw opium off of them the next day after it hardened, would he need to refine it before smoking it at all, or would it be smokeable as the raw opium? Also, how many pods do you think he would have to score to get a nice strong smoking dose?


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Re: Raw opium [Re: whatever123]
    #5355121 - 03/01/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

it would be smokable, but it would be better refined.
potency varies from plant to plant and pod sizes also vary.
ammount and potency is terribly inconsistant.

one would want MANY plants and many harvests combined to make an overall consistant product.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5355155 - 03/01/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, fine. But I am just saying, would one need more than one poppy plant to get a dose? More than 5, you think? 10? A guess, even, is appreciated, because to me, opinions are as good as facts (as long as I am told that they are guesses/opinions, and not facts) when I have absolutely no other knowledge of a subject.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: whatever123]
    #5355189 - 03/01/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

if you grow them with chalky loam soil, mixed with straw,
in FULL sun, watered daily when cabbage, then tapering off to weekly when flowering, And you planted them EARLY, like, march or sooner....

then each plant could get you a few doses. You could get a dozen tennisball sized pods per plant. and have a plant over 6 ft tall resembling a small tree.

odds are tho, youre going to need a dozen plants. for one dose.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5355205 - 03/01/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

:frown: uncool.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5355212 - 03/01/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yes....traditional smoking opium is: the scraped latex,'boiled' then filtered...then the liquid is evaped to make actual smoking version


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Re: Raw opium [Re: Schwip]
    #5355255 - 03/01/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yea....that is the traditional, but I am asking if this will work. Apparently so, but DAMN! a dozen or so plants? Holy hell dude. That is a lot of plant material to smoke through(luckily from what I hear, it is a nice taste/smell/not harsh).


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Re: Raw opium [Re: whatever123]
    #5356847 - 03/02/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

whatever123 said:
yea....that is the traditional, but I am asking if this will work. Apparently so, but DAMN! a dozen or so plants? Holy hell dude. That is a lot of plant material to smoke through(luckily from what I hear, it is a nice taste/smell/not harsh).


No, you only smoke the latex. It's really not a lot. Especially when dry.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: whatever123]
    #5357077 - 03/02/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like somebody needs to read the POPPIES - FROM POPPYSEED TO OPIUM thread!

Every poppyhead yields 10-100mg Opium. The crude opium (called gum opium) is smokable as-is, and this is in fact done by some tribes in the Golden Triangle such as the Hmong.

In Iraq the addicts (and i mean fullblown addicts) got 5gr of Opium if they smoked and 2gr a day if they ate their Opium.

If your Opium is good and your tolerance is slight then 125mg Opium by mouth would suffice for satisfaction. (roughly two grains) This is also the amount you buy in the Opium den for smoking delights.
It is a piece of Opium the size of a pea.

If you have no tolerance then 4 balls, half a gram of Opium, will be plenty to give you something to do throughout the entire day, and awake the other morning with a craving and an ass full of concrete.

I'll give you 50 bucks for a mere gram of vintage Opium, but I'll refuse a teaspoon of morphine or heroin.
I'm not an addict. Make sure you can say that yourself.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: Asante]
    #5357603 - 03/02/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, a crude extract can be made that will have similar properties to black tar opium. It will have a similar latex consistancy, a roughly fragrent smell, and nearly as potent as anything that you can buy.
1. Grind up your poppy pods (coffee grider works great, use your hands if you don't have one)
2. Put the powder in a mason jar and pour in methanol to double the height of your ground up pods.
2. Shake the solution often and let it sit between 12-24 hrs.
3. Before filtering, let the solution settle to make things easer, the methanol should have a green tint. Filter through coffee filter, cheese cloth, old shirt, anything.
4. Pour methanol into pyrex pie pan, let sit in a cool dark place till completly dry. Scrape up and roll it into a ball with your fingers. Play with it in your hands to ensure complete evaporation. There shouldn't be any methanol left, and if there is a little, it will be burnt off when smoked, so don't eat it. Methanol is an optic nerve poison(the bad stuff in moonshine), so use caution.


From a 1/4 ounce of pods a 1/2 gram of "opium" can be obtained.
Get pure methanol, reagent grade, from chemical suppliers or steal from chem. leb if you go to college.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: TheBotanist]
    #5357976 - 03/02/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

im not gonna get into it cause there are more than enough threads about this but, youre wrong.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: A0999]
    #5359274 - 03/02/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

wiccan seaker: how many pea sized balls would make a dose for smoking, keeping in mind that this has not been refined at all...the way that I inferred that you would like it, too. Or you meant you wouldn't do anything heavily refined, I don't know.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: whatever123]
    #5360757 - 03/03/06 06:08 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm an opium *eater* so I would use Gum Opium to make genuine laudanum. Since for smoking Prepared Opium is used most often it might be fruitful to prepare it then.

I would be interested in smoking Opium but perhaps, too interested probably. The idea alone of lying with your friends on matrasses in a warm, dark room lit by Opium lamps, occasionally smoking a pipe and then drifting off to the Land of Nod, occasionally exchanging words of pleasured awe, during an entire day is immensely seductive if you know the pleasures of Opium.

One pipeload = one ball of 2/8 inch across = 100-200mg Opium


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Re: Raw opium [Re: Asante]
    #5360951 - 03/03/06 08:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

And that should do it? Do you need a special pipe for it?


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Re: Raw opium [Re: whatever123]
    #5360972 - 03/03/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You do need a special pipe. A simple one would be a small thin-walled iron or copper cup with a bambo reed attached and an all-metal thumbtack through the bottom. You prick the opium onto the tack (in the bowl) then heat the bowl over a flame (teawarmer candle) and when it starts smoking inhale and retract the pipe. After holding it, repeat the procedure etc.

There are more complicated methods but this is a really good one.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: Asante]
    #5360978 - 03/03/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Iron or copper cup? Care to elaborate?


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Re: Raw opium [Re: whatever123]
    #5360994 - 03/03/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You can do what the chinese did.
Make an enema with raw opium and green tee. It must be a pretty nice combination.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: whatever123]
    #5360998 - 03/03/06 09:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Iron, copper and bronze are the smoking metals. A good size would be two inches wide and one deep. You can beat one out of a pure-iron tin can if you glow it out thoroughly before use.


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Re: Raw opium [Re: Asante]
    #5361422 - 03/03/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I thought copper was a no/no for smoking?  I vote for the green tea enema :grin:


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Re: Raw opium [Re: schmutzen]
    #5361623 - 03/03/06 01:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I think it would be best to turn crude Opium into Laudanum like so:


LAUDANUM LIQUIDUM SYDENHAMI
(Tinctura Opii Crocata)

take 1 liter 40% alcohol (or smirnoff vodka)
and steep in this:

10gr cloves
10gr cinnamon
40gr saffron

during 5 days, then filter.
then steep in this:

100gr Gum Opium

during five days, then filter.
Dosage up until 30drops/1.5ml


Please realize that these drugs are extremely and insidiously addictive.


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