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Annapurna1
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one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war...
#5354735 - 03/01/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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there is already a thread that posits the the impending war vs iran is to stop them from selling oil in euros ..
http://www.energybulletin.net/2913.html http://www.europe2020.org/en/section_global/150206.htm
and this theory was originally applied to iraq ..
http://www.feasta.org/documents/review2/nunan.htm http://www.tacomapjh.org/petrodollartheories.htm
this does appear to make perfect sense at first glance..but the problem is that petroeuro theory implies that the only alternative for the US besides war is all-out famine (as the result of a catastrophic devaluation of the dollar)...but if this is the case..then that means that bush&co could have just as easily sold their war agenda simply by telling the truth...so why then..did they find it necessary to fabricate a "war on terrorism" (which might just as well have included playing some hand in 9/11)..when a legitimate casus belli already existed?...
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Annapurna1]
#5354770 - 03/01/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Probably because the resumption of hostilities in Iraq by Australia, Spain, Italy, the UK, the US and others had nothing to do with any purported plan of OPEC nations to start selling oil for Euros, duh.
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Phred]
#5354984 - 03/01/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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and doubtless you still think that there really are WMDs sitting somewhere in iraq just waiting for troops from said nations to stumble on them...i dont think so...and nor will i rule out PET based solely on bush&cos' inconsistent behaviour...
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Annapurna1]
#5356063 - 03/02/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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How many people would really believe Bush when he says there is going to be a famine in the US if you don't go to war with Irak and Iran?
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Kamek]
#5356198 - 03/02/06 02:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i would say many more would have believed that over the WMD bullshit...personally i very much doubt that the WMD true believers ever numberbed much more than phred..but rather the popularity of the 2003 invasion was more out of sheer spite than anything else...
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Phred]
#5356253 - 03/02/06 03:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Probably because the resumption of hostilities in Iraq
What "resumption of hostilities in Iraq" are you referring to?
by Australia, Spain, Italy, the UK, the US and others had nothing to do with any purported plan of OPEC nations to start selling oil for Euros, duh.
You forgot the federated islands of micronesia.. 
Do you seriously believe Australia, Spain and the UK would have launched an invasion of Iraq unless the US had decided it was going to do so regardless?
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Alex213]
#5357247 - 03/02/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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OZ and UK dont use euros either...
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Annapurna1]
#5357371 - 03/02/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Because selling oil for euro's is perfectly legal and well within the rights of any oil producing nation.
What would have happened if he would have said that he was going after Iraq because it installed a fiscal policy that the U.S didn't like?
No one would have backed that because it would have been a crime.
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Prajna]
#5358014 - 03/02/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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in this case..however..its not simply a fiscal policy that bush doesnt like...if oil producers were to start selling oil in non-dollars..the results in the US prolly would be famine...if this is so..then..military action is no more a crime than shooting someone first if they point a gun at you...
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Annapurna1]
#5358153 - 03/02/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Annapurna1 said: in this case..however..its not simply a fiscal policy that bush doesnt like...if oil producers were to start selling oil in non-dollars..the results in the US prolly would be famine...if this is so..then..military action is no more a crime than shooting someone first if they point a gun at you...
It just gets better and better.
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: zappaisgod]
#5358308 - 03/02/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
why then..did they find it necessary to fabricate a "war on terrorism" (which might just as well have included playing some hand in 9/11)..when a legitimate casus belli already existed?...
because you never show all of your cards, duh
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Annapurna1]
#5360302 - 03/03/06 12:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Annapurna1 said: in this case..however..its not simply a fiscal policy that bush doesnt like...if oil producers were to start selling oil in non-dollars..the results in the US prolly would be famine...if this is so..then..military action is no more a crime than shooting someone first if they point a gun at you...
You cannot compare this with someone pointing a gun at you... It's your government that would be responsible for the most part if there would be a famine...
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Kamek]
#5361172 - 03/03/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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>> It's your government that would be responsible for the most part if there would be a famine...
yes..they would be responsible..because they didnt start a war that was necessary to prevent it...the threat of famine has been recognized as a legitimate casus belli since the days of the cro-magnon...
>> You cannot compare this with someone pointing a gun at you...
it is like pointing a gun at you..if their actions threaten the lives of your ppl...but that would only be the case if every other oil producer were to drop the dollar on short notice...
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Annapurna1]
#5361188 - 03/03/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Russia wanted to sell their oil based on the Petroeuro in order to make Europeans pay more for the oil. No doubt, Iran is trying to do the same thing. Russia and Iran are in cahoots with each other. Russia gave missile technology to Iran and is now helping them with uranium enrichment.
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Re: one problem with the "petroeuro theory" of war... [Re: Rogues_Pierre]
#5361268 - 03/03/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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there hasnt been any such deal between iran and russia yet...but it is fortunate that bush cant stop the russians from selling oil in euros...
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