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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Might makes Right [Re: dblaney]
    #5361670 - 03/03/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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They have value so long as you give them value.




Thus, it is equally plausible that the assertion that might makes right is right, because one can give it that value.

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Re: Might makes Right [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5361955 - 03/03/06 03:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It is possible, but just because one CAN, does not under any circumstances mean that one SHOULD. Just because one CAN murder someone, does not mean one SHOULD.

One may consider that might makes right, but this is a mere opinion and does not mean that it is the eternally Right. What is the eternally Right you may ask? Good question. Some say that if you don't know, then you simply aren't a philosopher.

Others say that the eternally Right is the Tao and is described by doing X. And still others say that the eternally Right is satan and is described by doing Y. So which is it? I think the best answer is that one needs to look inside themselves. One ought to truly look inside themselves, and to do that, one must completely quiet the mind, otherwise they will become very distracted by thoughts and ideas originating in some part of the psyche. To completely quiet the mind, one generally undertakes the practice of meditation and some degree of unlearning.

So after many years of this (the process normally takes a while), the person looks inside themselves and can unitively experience the eternally Right and True. And interestingly enough, whenever a person does this, the result is agreement with those who talk about the Tao and Buddhism (what can be called the perennial philosophy).

In order to have the authority to state what is Right, one must experience it, and one can only experience it if one is open to experience. And the only way to be completely open is through quieting the mind and unlearning, that way nothing interferes with the experience.

If you haven't experienced the Right, then you are operating from faith in someone or some system that describes one version of Right. To me it makes sense to have faith in someone who actually has the authority to describe the Right. Interestingly, people who have had such authority have never used might to make Right.


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Re: Might makes Right [Re: psychomime]
    #5362048 - 03/03/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I haven't been following much of the discussion, but I'd like to point out the fact that "might makes right" is contradictory. The very concept of "right" is rooted in the idea that there is a higher principle to be obeyed than brute force, which exists regardless of whether or not it is followed. Might makes victory, but it can never make right.


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Re: Might makes Right [Re: Silversoul]
    #5374882 - 03/07/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
I haven't been following much of the discussion, but I'd like to point out the fact that "might makes right" is contradictory. The very concept of "right" is rooted in the idea that there is a higher principle to be obeyed than brute force, which exists regardless of whether or not it is followed. Might makes victory, but it can never make right.




perhaps your concept of "right" implies higher principle. the statement that "might makes right" implies no higher principle, IMO it removes any need for a higher principle as might, exertion of power, defines right and while it may be motivated by higher principle it is otherwise independent of that principle in terms of "rightness"


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