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1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War
#5352883 - 03/01/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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1. Revoke Learyfan's moderating position. Whether it be for incompetence, slander, or wielding too much power over other mods is of no concern to me. Just do it.
2. Promote HELLA to mod(maybe admin). Gnubobo said it best, "He's more than an olive branch--he's a dove carting the entire agricultural olive industry with him".
3. Institute a firm policy that whenever a member is banned they must be informed of the duration via PM immediately.
4. Make the number of "points" for infractions accessible. Members should be able to know just how close they are to a ban.
Thank you
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5352912 - 03/01/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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1. No reason for it. 2. LOL 3+4: behave, and you are never going to come close to a ban.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Anno]
#5352928 - 03/01/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Both times I was banned I had no idea I was near. At the very least, if something is added to the tally you should receive a PM stating such.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5352958 - 03/01/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You should get an email, it's sent to the account you used to when you registered, I think you can change the email if you don't use the address anymore.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: gdman]
#5352968 - 03/01/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Only time I've got emails from here is when I've been banned
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Anno]
#5353061 - 03/01/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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daimyo said: 4. Make the number of "points" for infractions accessible. Members should be able to know just how close they are to a ban.
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Anno said: 3+4: behave, and you are never going to come close to a ban.
Why, Anno, are we not permitted to see info about ourselves?
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: MeatSpace]
#5353101 - 03/01/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Perhaps it doesn't really exist. This whole "point system" may just be a scapegoat. Hand out an unfair ban, blame it on the system.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5353111 - 03/01/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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as far as #3...
you should recieve warnings via pm's from the Moderator giving the warning.
you should recieve an email when you are banned.
as far as #4...
you have 12 points against you.
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meatspace has 6 points against her.
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feel any better?
that data base isn't viewable to members...at this time.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5353123 - 03/01/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's what I was thinking.
Edited by MeatSpace (03/01/06 11:02 AM)
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Roadkill]
#5353128 - 03/01/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do me, do me!
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Roadkill]
#5353133 - 03/01/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Roadkill said: as far as #3...
you should recieve warnings via pm's from the Moderator giving the warning.
I agree. Now if only this were an enforced policy. Or automated.
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Roadkill said: as far as #4...
you have 12 points against you.
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meatspace has 6 points against her.
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feel any better?
Somewhat, but I have no idea what the points are from, what the scale is, or if this system is even real.
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Roadkill said: that data base isn't viewable to members...at this time.
Once it is, I will have much more confidence in it. Don't forget to add a scale so we know where we're at(i.e. - 3 points = 2 days, 10 points = 5 days, etc).
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5353146 - 03/01/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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daimyo said:
Perhaps it doesn't really exist. This whole "point system" may just be a scapegoat. Hand out an unfair ban, blame it on the system.
No there really is a point system.
There is a ban button right next to the top Reply button on each persons post. This ban button is used to respond to that bannable offense or warning...which ever the case may be.
When a Moderator or an Admin click that button they can look up your history as far as warnings and bans...it also has how many points you have against you.
As far as how many points for how long the ban duration is... I really don't have a clue to those.
Maybe Anno would be nice enough to explain how many points it takes and how long the bans are for.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Roadkill]
#5353156 - 03/01/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Roadkill said:
Maybe Anno would be nice enough to explain how many points it takes and how long the bans are for.
tc
That's really all we want, as well as access to view our own point tally.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Roadkill]
#5353170 - 03/01/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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So where do I go to discuss my points?
I can prove that I should have zero points..... where should I go to do that?
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: MeatSpace]
#5353178 - 03/01/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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daimyo said: 4. Make the number of "points" for infractions accessible. Members should be able to know just how close they are to a ban.
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Anno said: 3+4: behave, and you are never going to come close to a ban.
Why, Anno, are we not permitted to see info about ourselves?
I too think we should be able to see points against us encase there are point on are name that were falsely given or so they can be despited.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: WhiteBunny]
#5353191 - 03/01/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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**I too think we should be able to see points against us in case there are points on our names that were falsely given, or so they can be disputed.
Is that what you'r trying to say? I couldn't quite understand, but I agree if that's it....
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: MeatSpace]
#5353194 - 03/01/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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And therin lies the best reason for them to keep the details of this program hush hush. The mods and admins(not all, but most) do not like to discuss actions they take. If everyone finds out how many points they have been given it is sure to start a wave of complaints and appeals.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5353214 - 03/01/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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daimyo said: And therin lies the best reason for them to keep the details of this program hush hush. The mods and admins(not all, but most) do not like to discuss actions they take. If everyone finds out how many points they have been given it is sure to start a wave of complaints and appeals.
If certain mods showed any of the fairness that they preach, there wouldn't be a reason for appeals. Unfortunately, I'll be first in line for that appeal once the option is available.... That is if the points are for what I think they are for.....
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5353242 - 03/01/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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daimyo said: And therin lies the best reason for them to keep the details of this program hush hush. The mods and admins(not all, but most) do not like to discuss actions they take. If everyone finds out how many points they have been given it is sure to start a wave of complaints and appeals.
As long as there is an automated "point system" there should be an automated way to dispute points.
That's only fair.
And what good is a point system to deter infractions if no one can even view the points that they have? That seems ridiculous to me.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5353257 - 03/01/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't understand what the big deal is...the point system is as fair as it can be. All users are treated equally, as opposed to the system before where the user was at the mercy of the mod/admins mood at the time.
If you want to know how many points you have...just ask any mod or admin and they can tell you right away.
The point system is meant to deter users from breaking the rules...that is up to the user. It's meant as a tool for the mods and admins to keep track of the users infractions.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353264 - 03/01/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I understand all of that. I'm not suggesting that they scrap the point system but add visibility and due process to it.
You know, so members can benefit more from it.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5353272 - 03/01/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Microcosmatrix said: I'm not suggesting that they scrap the point system but add visibility and due process to it.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5353276 - 03/01/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Microcosmatrix said: I understand all of that. I'm not suggesting that they scrap the point system but add visibility and due process to it.
You know, so members can benefit more from it.
That's my point though...the system isn't in place for the users. It's for the mods.
The best way that a user can benefit from it is not fuck up in the first place. Realistically...if someone already has several warnings/bans, what difference will being able to see their points be? Will that user suddenly and miraculously respect the Shroomery rules because they can see they are close to being permabanned? It has made NO difference in the past....if anything, I can see users being 'proud' of how many point they have and bragging about it.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5353289 - 03/01/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, you could pull up your own point screen with the date, discription of the infraction, mod/admin comments etc. etc., and then there's a button to pull up a form to ask for a review.
Hey guys, we know that as a whole, you admins and mods are doing a great job, but sometimes reviews are nescessary in certain specific circumstances.
Implementing this solution might mean a little more work, but I think the value to the community would be great.
I don't think there is going to be any more complaining than there already is now, in fact, it could actually reduce the amount of threads of complaint in WA&F and other public forums as well, if there were a way for users to participate in the point system process.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353301 - 03/01/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rono said: That's my point though...the system isn't in place for the users. It's for the mods.
IF this system really exists that is 
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Rono said: The best way that a user can benefit from it is not fuck up in the first place.
How can a user know if they "fuck up" though? What one moderator would see as a comical jab, another may get all babyish over. It is impossible to know what constitutes "fucking up" since there are no standards. That is our point.
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Rono said: Realistically...if someone already has several warnings/bans, what difference will being able to see their points be? Will that user suddenly and miraculously respect the Shroomery rules because they can see they are close to being permabanned?
Yes.
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Rono said: It has made NO difference in the past
In the past nobody knew how many points they had. Currently it is the same. Learn from the mistakes of the past.
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Rono said: if anything, I can see users being 'proud' of how many point they have and bragging about it.
Until they are permabanned and it is not a problem.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353307 - 03/01/06 11:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's my point though...the system isn't in place for the users. It's for the mods.
And that's my whole point too.
I am asking why the process has to be cloaked in secrecy in order to work.
Is there any compelling reason not to just allow the users to see their points (since they seem to want to be able to), other than "Someone might brag"?
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5353318 - 03/01/06 11:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Either they don't exist, or there is no method to the madness and it would be embarrassing to expose this fact. That's all I can think of.
However, Mr. Kill's post seemed to insinuate that viewing by the membership may be in the works.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5353319 - 03/01/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey guys, we know that as a whole, you admins and mods are doing a great job, but sometimes reviews are nescessary in certain specific circumstances
why is it necesarry? some people makes it sounds like the shroomery is a goverment , this is a webforum , the admins and mods can do whatever they want to.
you dont see anyone outside of OTD have any problems with the rules, just a few in OTD that wants to test the limits, and now they want to see just how far they can go without getting banned..
like " oo i can do this shit two more times before i get banned so blah and if any mod bans me before i can bitch,,, ey i had 2 more points before a ban... "
its really simple , follow the rules and you be ok, break them and deal with it. the admins arent policeofficers, you dont need a lawyer if you get banned from here.. its not like your life is over.. you just do something else until the ban is lifted and your back..
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5353341 - 03/01/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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"IF this system really exists that is" It Does.
"How can a user know if they "fuck up" though? What one moderator would see as a comical jab, another may get all babyish over. It is impossible to know what constitutes "fucking up" since there are no standards. That is our point."
The rules for each forum are clearly posted...If you even suspect that you may get in trouble for something you are going to post, chances are you will...If a rule is unclear or if you have a question, ask.
"In the past nobody knew how many points they had. Currently it is the same. Learn from the mistakes of the past"
We have...hence this system.
"Until they are permabanned and it is not a problem."
Don't beak the rules and you have nothing to worry about.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: OJK]
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: shriek]
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why is it necesarry? some people makes it sounds like the shroomery is a goverment , this is a webforum , the admins and mods can do whatever they want to.
Whether you know it or not, the Shroomery is a community. Whether it is based in cyberspace or not is immaterial. A lot of us know each other, and use this "webforum" to stay in touch.
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you dont see anyone outside of OTD have any problems with the rules
Yes, OTD has some of the most intelligent and active members
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just a few in OTD that wants to test the limits, and now they want to see just how far they can go without getting banned.. like " oo i can do this shit two more times before i get banned so blah and if any mod bans me before i can bitch,,, ey i had 2 more points before a ban... "
You're correct again, it's probably just a few. Nothing we can do about people like that. Natural selection should handle it for us though.
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its really simple , follow the rules and you be ok, break them and deal with it.
yeah, I know dad.
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the admins arent policeofficers, you dont need a lawyer if you get banned from here..
Lawyer? Where did I ever say "lawyer"? I said let's see our point system so we can use the information to stay out of trouble. Take pride in a clean record, etc. etc.
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its not like your life is over.. you just do something else until the ban is lifted and your back..
Thank you but I don't need a courtesy lesson in the philosophy of being banned.
I'm discussing the visibility of the point system you see, and simple access to a form to ask for a review because sometimes mistakes happen.
Sounds fair to me!
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: GnuBobo]
#5353360 - 03/01/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Odiumjunkie said: Do me, do me!
Oooh! Oooh! Do me, too!!!
You are currently at 3 points.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: shriek]
#5353362 - 03/01/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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shriek said: why is it necesarry?
It's not necessary. However, members would like to see, and it shouldn't be hard to implement. There is really no reason NOT to do it.
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shriek said: you dont see anyone outside of OTD have any problems with the rules,
Check my post stats, I am hardly what most would consider an OTDer.
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shriek said: just a few in OTD that wants to test the limits, and now they want to see just how far they can go without getting banned
In your opinion.
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shriek said: its really simple , follow the rules and you be ok, break them and deal with it.
Perhaps you can outline each of the 44 moderators positions/interpretations of the rules for us if it is so simple.
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shriek said: the admins arent policeofficers, you dont need a lawyer if you get banned from here.. its not like your life is over.. you just do something else until the ban is lifted and your back..
I'm sorry, but you're not dealing with people that take stuff like that to well on this site. I'd guess most have a distrust for authority/law, and do not like to just "take it" when they are unfairly accused and/or convicted.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353368 - 03/01/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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How many points do I have?
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: OJK]
#5353369 - 03/01/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Odiumjunkie said: Do me, do me!
you are at 0 points...
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5353372 - 03/01/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Microcosmatrix said: How many points do I have?
You are also at 0 points
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353379 - 03/01/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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And with that I call an end to finding out how many points one has in my thread. Either PM someone or start another thread. This needn't be locked for going OT.
This is for the discussion of the four topics presented in my original post. So far we have some discussion on point four, but one, two, and three are lacking.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353384 - 03/01/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Microcosmatrix said: How many points do I have?
You are also at 0 points
May I brag about that? You see having access to the point system could be used to take pride in ones clean record too.
Shriek I thought you said only troublemakers wanted this change.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353386 - 03/01/06 12:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do me.
Actually, even better: could you tell me my points and what my next ban will entail?
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War *DELETED* [Re: Redstorm]
#5353391 - 03/01/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Post deleted by MicrocosmatrixReason for deletion: Misunderstanding
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5353402 - 03/01/06 12:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll create a thread for users that want to know how many points they have.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5353413 - 03/01/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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daimyo said: And with that I call an end to finding out how many points one has in my thread. Either PM someone or start another thread. This needn't be locked for going OT.
This is for the discussion of the four topics presented in my original post. So far we have some discussion on point four, but one, two, and three are lacking.
As far as I'm concerned this thread should be closed...if you want to know how many points you have just ask and we will tell you.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353420 - 03/01/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Great, but could it be coded into a page users can just access on their own at some point?
Will there be a thread to dispute points? I remember the whole incident meatspace was talking about and I agree that she should not have recieved any points.
(All she did was invite people to view a thread and leave a rating. She didn't even say what rating to leave, just provided a ratings link. Some mod read her mind and gave her points based on thoughtcrime.)
She deserves a thread, or some other review process. Is there one in place that she should use?
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353421 - 03/01/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rono said: I'll create a thread for users that want to know how many points they have.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353428 - 03/01/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rono said: As far as I'm concerned this thread should be closed...if you want to know how many points you have just ask and we will tell you.
If that was the sole purpose of my thread, I would agree. However it is not, and I do not.
Also, that is not the only request regarding points. It would also be dandy to know what the points are for, what the scale is, and where/how/if they can be contested.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5353449 - 03/01/06 12:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Microcosmatrix said: Great, but could it be coded into a page users can just access on their own at some point?
Will there be a thread to dispute points? I remember the whole incident meatspace was talking about and I agree that she should not have recieved any points.
(All she did was invite people to view a thread and leave a rating. She didn't even say what rating to leave, just provided a ratings link. Some mod read her mind and gave her points based on thoughtcrime.)
She deserves a thread, or some other review process. Is there one in place that she should use?
That is untrue...Meatspace was given an unofficial warning by the mod and no points were given to her.
There is 1 forum that a banned user has access to...the forum of the banned, that is unviewable to most users. They can plead their case there in 1 thread...if a user uses that forum to create a disturbance or to try and make it into another OTD, they will be permabanned...no appeals.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5353465 - 03/01/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah, I've heard about stuff there.
You know what you could do then right? Users with 0-3 points could be allowed access to the banned forum in addition to all the usual forums. This would be both a symbolic reward for maintaining good behavior, and a chance for the well behaved members to try and talk some sense into those misbehaving members.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War *DELETED* [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5353492 - 03/01/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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"1. No reason for it. 2. LOL 3+4: behave, and you are never going to come close to a ban. "
1 and 2: Ok.
3+4: Don't do drugs, and you don't have to worry about what they really do to your body. DARE logic.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5353842 - 03/01/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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And, why can we post pictures of naked females in the Pub, but naked shemales are not allowed? Ya freakin sexist pigs.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#5353909 - 03/01/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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MushmanTheManic said: And, why can we post pictures of naked females in the Pub, but naked shemales are not allowed? Ya freakin sexist pigs.
You always welcome to start your own website and post pics of naked she males to your hearts content.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5353965 - 03/01/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Daimyo, I understand your concerns and I sympathize with them. However, it's important for me to stay the course. I think it would be a mistake for me to cut and run. I think it would send the wrong message.
We should be friends now.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Learyfan] 1
#5353970 - 03/01/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5354057 - 03/01/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just personally think that I've been doing a heck of a job and that we all shouldn't be playing the "blame game", here.
Either way, let's all put this behind us and be friends now. Let's do it for The Shroomery.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Learyfan]
#5354140 - 03/01/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wouldn't want to see you de-modded. For the most part, I really don't think you've done a bad job. I just think you've made a couple questionable decisions and I would like you to acknowledge that. We are of differing opinions on the matter, though, so I don't expect you to.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Redstorm]
#5354256 - 03/01/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks Redstorm. Would you say that I've done a "heck uva job" other than the whole smiley situation?? 
Listen, I don't think that we're going to ever completely see eye to eye on that situation as you've said, but let me try and explain in more detail. Was your post the most hateful thing I've seen in The Pub? Of course it wasn't. However, even though all you did was post a smiley, your intent was to be demeaning and inflammatory at that particular time. That sort of thing shouldn't be allowed in The Pub.
All this comes down to is a misunderstanding of the purpose of The Pub. The Pub is the one place on The Shroomery where Shroomerites can post and not have to worry about being flamed, trolled or anything negative like that. Shroomerites who are tripping should feel comfortable posting in The Pub. Shroomerites who want to talk about personal or embarrassing situations should feel comfortable talking about that in The Pub. Without enforcement of the Pub rules, the line between OTD and The Pub is completely blurred, which makes having both forums pointless.
We all value your presence here at The Shroomery, Redstorm. I hope you can understand that I do see it from your point of view, but that it's important for The Pub to continue to be a safe haven for Shroomerites to chill out in.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Rono]
#5354272 - 03/01/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Odiumjunkie said: Do me, do me!
Oooh! Oooh! Do me, too!!!
You are currently at 3 points.
Thanks. This is like reading my FBI file.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Learyfan]
#5354277 - 03/01/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I understand exactly where you're coming from. I just want you to know that I wasn't intentionally being malicious with that smiley. I understand it was probably posted at the wrong place at the wrong time, but I was not intending for it to be mean-spirited.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Redstorm]
#5354503 - 03/01/06 06:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks Stormy. You're a really cool guy. Long live The Shroomery!

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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: Learyfan]
#5355119 - 03/01/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Naked Shemales or Death. I refuse to tolerate the marxist male hetero agenda of subjugating trannies and their admirers.
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5355175 - 03/01/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ban the fan!
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Re: 1-2-3-4, No This Isn't a Thumb War [Re: daimyo]
#5355235 - 03/01/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: No sugarcoat here.. With respect to points 3 & 4: There is no "due process" here, follow our rules or face our consequences. You should not be adjusting your behavior depending on any given point total you may have racked up - rather, you should always be following our guidelines. PM notifications are automatically sent for every warning that has appended points to your record. Any notes added to your record which you are not notified of are strictly internal and will not contribute to your point count or ban duration upon the next recorded offense. It is not the mod's fault if you didn't receive a PM for a warning, it is a scripting error somewhere that will undoubtedly get resolved in time - but please remember that we are a volunteer organization and at this juncture we only have one person handling the Ban-o-Matic scripting (and I know as I keep adding to it, that there is a lengthy list of modifications that will eventually be implemented). As for your first two points, LearyFan is not getting demodded and Hella is not getting modded at this time. At the time of a ban, if you feel your ban was made in error, I strongly encourage you to present your case through our Support Ticket System.
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