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there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers
    #5352643 - 03/01/06 08:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

im sure there are already many secret societies out there.

any know of any of them?

im not talking about the freemasons or anything... specifically psychedelic secret societies.

i guess in a way you can call the entire psychedelic revolution a secret society... but there are many "inner circles" that most probably dont know about.


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: agoutihead]
    #5352669 - 03/01/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If people posted freely about them, then they wouldn't be so secret would they?

They do exist though...


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: dedjam]
    #5352735 - 03/01/06 08:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Any societies worth joining are reserved for professionals (rather than enthusiasts).


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: badchad]
    #5352880 - 03/01/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Back in the late fifties Huxley, Osmond et al. most definetly felt as though they were on to something with respect to psychedelics. Check out 'The Door In the Wall' (http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/stevens2.htm) the author in my opinion does a good job of describing the psychedelic scene in the fifties way before it went "mainstream".

Here's a good part that I liked:

It was like belonging to an elite fraternity. "When you made contact," remembers Oscar Janiger, "it was like two people looking at each other from across the room, and with a sort of nod of the head... like 'Welcome brother, you have now entered the Mysteries.' That's all. That was your ticket of admission. Nothing else. That knowing look."

Pretty cool, it's a good read...


Edited by today mylove (03/01/06 09:42 AM)


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: today mylove]
    #5352949 - 03/01/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

These 'societies' exist seperately, yet concurrently, within the user.

Everytime I meet people of this nature, our conversations are much different then the norm. A lot more understanding and a lot less explaining...

Sometime it (psychedelic movement) may gain stride, and become a type of bohemian club for intellectuals and free-thinkers who'd rather satisfy their urges for neurological modulation through psychedelics... instead of drinking.


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: Herbus]
    #5353036 - 03/01/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

There are a ton of these, all over the world. Every small group of friends that trips together is a secret society, in my opinion. I'm lucky enough that my trip friends were friends a loooooong time before we started tripping. Basically, we're never going to be the same and we all know each other's minds like no other.

I'm sure secret societies exist in the sense you speak of, but I doubt that anyone here would divulge information about them if they did know something.


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: supersapien]
    #5353058 - 03/01/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i live in a town full of complete idiots. im not being elitist or anything, but my wife, my brothers and the few friends i have agree.

problem is i cant trip with any of those people (except my wife) for different reasons. sadly im alone with no one to relate my psychadelic babble to. in fact, i used to be a pretty quick witted guy, but after movin down here i find it harder to do things i used to do (ie improv theater and music) because there are no people here that keep me on my toes. this place sucks.


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5353903 - 03/01/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Psy-trance scene in london is alot like that. That and a bunch of the friendlist hippies on earth:D


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: Mushy_face]
    #5354160 - 03/01/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

to imply it's secrecy, is to imply an elitist air about it...


elitism is ego-centric and I am not down with being ego-centric.

take your secret society...I would rather interact with everyone on as high of a level as possible.


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5354304 - 03/01/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: fresh313]
    #5354402 - 03/01/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

fresh313 said:
www.shroomery.org :jester:




Shhhh.  It's a secret.


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5354827 - 03/01/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Kaleidoscope said:
to imply it's secrecy, is to imply an elitist air about it...


elitism is ego-centric and I am not down with being ego-centric.

take your secret society...I would rather interact with everyone on as high of a level as possible.




I rather agree and am thankful something such as a freakin rock band brought this message to me  :smile:, (when none of us would have received it had it stayed within the realms of secrecy [lets keep it to the elite huh  :tongue:]), now that I think about it. Strange such an entity carried such an important message. None of us would be here had it stayed a secret, in the early days I can understand why people would want to keep LSD to themselves but thankfully, for all of us, the secret got out.


I will stay out of the ego-centric part for my own intra-web sanity  :grin:.


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: Gratos]
    #5354929 - 03/01/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yes.

i would like to expell a thank-you to all the people throughout history that helped in starting the event chain that brought lsd and mush to my doorstep. you are all my dearest of friends.


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: keefboy]
    #5356183 - 03/02/06 01:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

it was g0d man  :darkside::sailboat:


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: fresh313]
    #5356359 - 03/02/06 05:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I believe certain psychedelics should be legal to buy providing you are over 18 and have a special license. That is people who want to practice psychedelic administration should do a (six month?) course on the effects of the drugs, the contraindictions, emergency procedures, responsible use etc. Also the supplier should sell the drug in pure form, and there should be events where people can take it in a safe group environment (like a class, event similar to yoga classes or something) without worry of prosecution or poisoning and with a certified sober sitter.

The event/classes should be held on a regular basis and could be held either indoors/outdoors day/night and should include a variety of activities to do (eg meditation, art, therapy, exercise, outdoor activities, self discovery etc)

Anyone agree?


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5356710 - 03/02/06 08:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

rDr4g0n said:
i live in a town full of complete idiots. im not being elitist or anything, but my wife, my brothers and the few friends i have agree.

problem is i cant trip with any of those people (except my wife) for different reasons. sadly im alone with no one to relate my psychadelic babble to. in fact, i used to be a pretty quick witted guy, but after movin down here i find it harder to do things i used to do (ie improv theater and music) because there are no people here that keep me on my toes. this place sucks.




Me too... :frown: I don't trip with anyone except my wife because most people around here are country boy hicks that I can't really relate to. Not that being a country boy is bad, I'm one too, but the vast majority around here aren't into anything but Copenhagen and Bud Lite.  :rolleyes: There is no real community of heads here... I always have to travel to meet people like me. It sux.

I'm moving this summer though to a college town where I'm sure that'll change.

You shroomery folks are always welcome to come trip out with me though! : :mushroom2: To bad we're normally so scattered, and I don't think there's many shroomerites that live near me.... I'm way out in the stix.  :smirk:


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Re: there needs to be a "secret society" for psychedelic enlightened thinkers [Re: shrooma]
    #5356854 - 03/02/06 09:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I think that sounds like a great foundation from which to start. I've thought long and hard about what rules/ regulations would make sense regarding psychedelics. I know that I would never just hand someone a drug that strong without either knowing them personally or questioning them to find out how much they knew/ expected/ could handle it.

Not everyone is prepared for a journey. In a way, that automatically makes it a society of sorts.


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