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Offlinetripstr
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will vaporizing shrooms work?
    #5351180 - 02/28/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

obviously smoking em doesnt work. so would using a vaporizor work? This has probably been brought up but i still ask :tongue:


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OfflinePingasa
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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: tripstr]
    #5351337 - 02/28/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I think alot of people will say no, but arent quite sure because they havent tried vaporizing or maybe have tried smoking but not vaporizing. I myself havent tried it but i havent heard of anyone else trying a vaporization either. It might be possible if you had a vaporizer where you could control the heat, such as an oil lamp and lightbulb vaporizer. I say if you have a couple mushrooms and a good vaporizer not just meant for weed, then it could be worth a try.


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: Pingasa]
    #5351378 - 02/28/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You will get effects, but not as near as much as eating them or brewing tea. It will be a waste.


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: aDoS]
    #5351647 - 02/28/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

why are people always looking for new ways to ingest mushrooms? is eating them not good enough? i know they taste horrible, but that is for only a minute or so, the trip is six hours. one minute of nastiness for six hours of bliss, a good trade imo. just eat them. but a vap actually does heat the "material" so i would expect a loss in potency. once again, just eat them


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: shafty]
    #5351761 - 02/28/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

maybe to avoid the cramps and pains in your gut


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: DyeGreen]
    #5351806 - 02/28/06 11:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Definitely no.


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: tripstr]
    #5352169 - 03/01/06 03:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If you were able to extract the psiloc(yb)in to a relatively high degree of purity, and then tried vaporizing it a la DMT, I'm not sure what would happen. I myself recently decided to do a crude water extraction.

Basically, I ground up about 20 grams of shrooms, boiled some water (to which I added some lemon juice to acidify the water to facilitate the extraction,) then gently poured the water into my jar containing the shroom powder. I stirred occasionally for about ten minutes, then strained through a cheese cloth and then a coffee filter. I repeated this process a second time, so I ended up with a jar of straight shroom tea--which was sort of yellow-orange. I don't know why it was that color, or if it even matters. (Maybe the lemon juice made it that color or something.)

Anywho, I poured the liquid into a shallow glass (pyrex) baking pan and set a fan on it. The stuff dried to a hard consistency, and it was difficult to scrape off, but I got most of it off (more than 3/4). It looked like this:



(Kind of orange and crystally)

This was enough to go into 3 large gelcaps like the one below. That works out to roughly equivalent to 4-5 grams of mushrooms per capsule. I ate two, and felt nothing more than a placebo. This was very strange. My guess it that it's because I had taken shrooms less than a week earlier..? (Also, my meds cause me tolerance so that my usual starting dose is 5.5 grams.)



The remaining amount in the pan I re-dissolved in water and let it dry again. This time, the substance I came up with was more whitish and chalky. I put a bit on my tongue, and it tastes nice and bitter and mushroomy.



...anyways, I still possess the contents of the last two pictures. I'd love to try to vaporize this shit, but both my regular pipe and my crack pipe (for vaporization) have DMT resin coating the insides, so it wouldn't be very scientific.

I don't know why I just typed all that. Guess I just wanted to put it out there. And if anyone has any input on why I came up with two distinctly difference colors/consistencies..??


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5352450 - 03/01/06 06:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

AFOAF would be real cautious. Shroom spores in the lungs could cause health problems if not killed in the heating process. Smoking shrooms might be less hazardous than vaporizer. Of course what does AFOAF know. Would hate for someone to get some kind of bacterial infection. Personally AFOAf thinks both ways are a waste of time.


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: johnhenry]
    #5352512 - 03/01/06 07:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

AFOAF? Did I miss something?

Anyways, I remember awhile ago reading a thread that mentioned the possibility of extracting the psilocybin and vaporzing it, personally unless you're a grower and don't care if you waste them I wouldn't bother...


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5353140 - 03/01/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

They didn't work because you boiled the water!

The active ingredients break down at about 36 degrees if I remember correctly.

You would need to use cold water for the entire process.


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: Ego Death]
    #5353209 - 03/01/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

No, it's not because of the water. I've made shroom tea with my friends at least a dozen times before.


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5353408 - 03/01/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Psilocybin is heat sensitive but it can withstand a bit... 36C is like the outside temperature on a moderately hot day in summer...


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: StickyWater]
    #5353466 - 03/01/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The reason the water extraction didnt work is because psilocybin is very unstable once removed from a mushroom.To my knowledge there isnt a simple way to extract it.There is a post floating around of an extraction that yeilded some nice looking crystals but I dont know if he ever tried them or not.

It wasnt the heat that made the extraction bunk.


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5361134 - 03/03/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

>>>It wasnt the heat that made the extraction bunk.

What was it then?

Boiling water breaks down the active chemicals, even light and oxygen break down the actives.

Obviously it can still work if they are not exposed too long and its a high concentration then you won't break them all down.

You guys don't have to believe me, research for yourselves. Its well known that boiling water (which he used) will break down psilocybin/psilocin.

Especially if you are boiling down a liquid to a solid - then its got NO chance.


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: Ego Death]
    #5363756 - 03/04/06 04:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:


>>>It wasnt the heat that made the extraction bunk.

What was it then?

Boiling water breaks down the active chemicals, even light and oxygen break down the actives.

Obviously it can still work if they are not exposed too long and its a high concentration then you won't break them all down.

You guys don't have to believe me, research for yourselves. Its well known that boiling water (which he used) will break down psilocybin/psilocin.

Especially if you are boiling down a liquid to a solid - then its got NO chance.




psilocybin has a melting point of 400F. 
people make teas and dehydrate their shrooms at temps 200degrees below this.  psilocybin is quite resilient to heat, actually 

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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: badlydrawnboy]
    #5363842 - 03/04/06 07:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

AFOAF = A Friend of a Friend?
Just fuckin eat the damn shrooms goddammit, it's not THAT hard, and rather than going to all the trouble of getting vaporiser, extractin shiite, just buy the gelcaps and do it that way
soooooooo much easier and no taste!


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: Ego Death]
    #5363911 - 03/04/06 08:33 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

danoEoboy said:
>>>It wasnt the heat that made the extraction bunk.

What was it then?

Boiling water breaks down the active chemicals, even light and oxygen break down the actives.

Obviously it can still work if they are not exposed too long and its a high concentration then you won't break them all down.

You guys don't have to believe me, research for yourselves. Its well known that boiling water (which he used) will break down psilocybin/psilocin.

Especially if you are boiling down a liquid to a solid - then its got NO chance.




me thinks YOU should be doing research...


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Re: will vaporizing shrooms work? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5364644 - 03/04/06 01:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

>>>It wasnt the heat that made the extraction bunk.

What was it then?




Quote:

The reason the water extraction didnt work is because psilocybin is very unstable once removed from a mushroom.




Your answer was in the beginning of the post your were quoting and questioning... It wasn't a very long post either... Good to see you're paying attention...


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