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Kingkole
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salvia and grav bongs
#5350644 - 02/28/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i have only smoked salvia extract(20X) in a bong before, couple times i only got minimal effect, i tripped the hell out once and had a few in between. i am prolly buying some plain salvia leaf and was wondering if i could make a grav bong to administer enough to break through because with g bong i can usually smoke alot in one go.
I was just thinking what you guys think about smoking salvia in a grav bong.
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bigbadwolf
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Re: salvia and grav bongs [Re: Kingkole]
#5350707 - 02/28/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It should work fine.
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drSE
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Re: salvia and grav bongs [Re: bigbadwolf]
#5350716 - 02/28/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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its hard to break through without an extract, let me know how it goes. i am really interested
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Psilocyan
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Re: salvia and grav bongs [Re: drSE]
#5350891 - 02/28/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, it is hard to break through without at least something around 10x. Also, check the craftsmanship on your gravity bong. I don't mean to insult your bongmaking ability, but I had an intense experience on 10x with a grav bong, and the next night almost nothing; finally realized the bottle wasn't air-tight/big enough, etc...
That being said...I find the gravity bong to be the most effective way of consuming extracts.
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Re: salvia and grav bongs [Re: Psilocyan]
#5350975 - 02/28/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i broke through on 5x the first time i tried it. took one big bong rip and i was completely out of reality for 2-3minutes.
yikes totally missed the point of the thread. umm yeah salvia should work fine in a gravity bong, i know people who have done it.
Edited by duggan18 (02/28/06 08:35 PM)
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tactik
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Re: salvia and grav bongs [Re: duggan18]
#5351751 - 02/28/06 11:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you're getting leaves, I would just make a quid out of them.
You could try smoking it, but chances are you wont break through.
On that note, next time I decide to buy salvia, im going to get the leaves and make a quid. Should be one hell of a ride..
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Psilocyan
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Re: salvia and grav bongs [Re: tactik]
#5355068 - 03/01/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I once ground some dried Oaxacan leaves and rolled a joint. It just gave me a more manageable, mild psychedelic high. 
It was fantastic, and yet another way to enjoy Salvia, but certainly not the way to break through.
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NHShroomer22
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Re: salvia and grav bongs [Re: Psilocyan]
#5355417 - 03/01/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yo dude i did a g bong with 20x look at my trip report....but yea smoking straight leaf from a g bong does work. I think its necessary for straight leaf.
Heres how it goes: 1.) first bowl pack and gb, you start to feel the tingle, and slight disaccosiation (Sp?). 2.) Second comes on a littler harder, you start to feel that salvia strength come on and its werd, but still controllable. 3.) Now the third gets you messed up harder than the other two, it took me 3 of good leaf to get me legit messed up.
In my opinion if you want a ride, pack a full bowl of 20x in a gb and rip it.....it changed my life for a good time..
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leery11
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Re: salvia and grav bongs [Re: tactik]
#5355472 - 03/01/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
tactik said: If you're getting leaves, I would just make a quid out of them.
You could try smoking it, but chances are you wont break through.
On that note, next time I decide to buy salvia, im going to get the leaves and make a quid. Should be one hell of a ride..
how do you get the quid to work? I've had nil effects all the times I've tried
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DrGeek
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Re: salvia and grav bongs [Re: leery11]
#5361074 - 03/03/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
leery11 said:
Quote:
tactik said: If you're getting leaves, I would just make a quid out of them.
You could try smoking it, but chances are you wont break through.
On that note, next time I decide to buy salvia, im going to get the leaves and make a quid. Should be one hell of a ride..
how do you get the quid to work? I've had nil effects all the times I've tried
Same here. Me and a friend have both tried it. I had about 25 grams of wet leaves, rolled them up into two sections, chewed on it and kept the juice in my mouth for about 5 minutes each. I washed with mouthwash first, too, and nothing at all happened. My friend did the same, but he only rolled one and kept it in his mouth for half an hour and still nothing.
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badlydrawnboy
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Re: salvia and grav bongs [Re: DrGeek]
#5363722 - 03/04/06 03:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i'm in question if it were to work as well as a bong or bowl. the drug isn't active until reaching a high enough temp. will the alkaloids in the smoke remain active while in the gravity bong? people say 'light the entire time smoking' or 'use butane lighter to get high enough temps' - a gravity would affect this reasoning. right?
guess i could just try it, i've got enough sitting around, and i smoke mj gravity most nights so it's already setup
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redgreenvines
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the active ingredient, salvinorin, is not - I repeat NOT activated by heat.
in a short pipe combustion of the leaves or extracts by regular lighter is enough to release the salvinorin molecules to be absorbed into your body if you draw the air into your lungs.
if you add long tubes and waterpipes, then you need a torch and you will waste more material.
the molecule itself is equally active at minus ten degrees as above 500 degrees. however if it is not close to body temperature when it gets to your brain, you will suffer tissue damage.
the term activation should be replaced by vaporization, and vaporization is the act of boiling, and we all should know from high school that boiling temperatures change with air pressure.
so suck on a short pipe to reach your stars faster, and leave the torches in danny's store.
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indica


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man 40x in a GB would radioactively nuke your brain I believe heh heh
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