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Offlinehellucinogen
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"Z" strain?
    #5350634 - 02/28/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I looked in the wiki and everywhere else and I couldn't find an answer to this: I am considering ordering the z strain from ralphsters, but I want a good visual producing shroom, is this strain capable of that? If not could someone point me in the right direction. Also I want one that has laid back viewing but with intense visuals.


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: hellucinogen]
    #5350743 - 02/28/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

sorry bout not having any info about it in the wiki but its hard to find info about it. ill go try and grab a pic or 2.


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #5350757 - 02/28/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

A relative new strain in Mushroomland. Some cultivators say is also the Golden Teacher, but is really it's own strain displaying slightly different characteristics than the GT. An aggressive colonizer and prolific fruiter, the Z-strain produces medium to large fruits.


The original Z-Strain comes from SporeTradingPost for the grazy price of $90.00 . This amount of money is way to much for a simple print. Personally I do not believe in his fantasie stock with fantasie hybrides and exclusive prices. We offer the Creeper and the Z-strain for only ? 1,--.


Most growers even speculate if the Z-strain is indeed a new kid in the mushroom three. It is extreme hard to make hybrides. And very doubtfull that one guy produces all those hybrides. The are most likely renamed cubensis strains.


i found this on the fsre web site :pirate:


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: hellucinogen]
    #5350811 - 02/28/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Just harvested and sampled mine this weekend. I don't know whether it's truly a new strain or not, but WOWIE-ZOWIE, did they kick my butt! I took a small 1 gram dose, just to get acquainted. I tripped harder and with more visuals than I have with a 4 gram dose of others.

This was also a very prolific fruiter, although they were small and skinny compared to the Creeper and Equadorian strains I'd grown before.


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    #5351066 - 02/28/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: InTheFlesh714]
    #5351077 - 02/28/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I know I ask this question in vain, but what are some mushies that really provoked your thoughts? anybody and everybody....


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5351147 - 02/28/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ALL CUBES ARE THE FUCKING SAME EXCEPT MINER DIFFERENCES.

POTENCY AND SIZE REALLY DEPENDS ON SUBSTRATE AND GROWING CONDITIONS.


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: Atheist]
    #5351188 - 02/28/06 09:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Alright, thanks... I was just wondering because of all the talk about "Oh this one is more heady blah blah blah" I hear around here. I figured since its all the same chemical that it wouldn't matter. Sorry for asking stupid questions heh.


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5351241 - 02/28/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i was not very impressed with z strain. b+ was 200% better IMO


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: Atheist]
    #5351279 - 02/28/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

my friend grew Z-train for awhile... When I took them the second time I was unaware or the strain until I mentioned how the trip felt familiar to my first one and was then informed that they were the same strain, whether or not that's just coincidence or actually due to the strain I couldn't say and I'd need another blind test before I'd just to any conclusions, but basically both trips were more about colour enhancing and just being able to let your thoughts and feelings flow than actual visuals (well, until the peak on the second trip... keep in mind that that trip was 4g larger than the first)

Don't expect anything cause you probably wont get it, shrooms are never predictable, and nobody will be able to see "you will have intense visuals" infact just because you're looking to have visuals I wouldn't be surprised if you missed them completely... But well, generally speaking both of my experiences with this strain have made me pretty social, I wanted to run, play, do whatever, just be a kid again, the only times I've had that kid-ish feeling on mush, but each person's experience is different so all this post is really useful for is filling your head with misleading hopes... Eat them and see what happense...


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: Atheist]
    #5351292 - 02/28/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

SpicyTunaRoll said:
ALL CUBES ARE THE FUCKING SAME EXCEPT MINER DIFFERENCES.





MINER DIFFERENCES SUCH AS COPPER OR IRON?


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: StickyWater]
    #5351335 - 02/28/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The "kid again" part is exactly what I experienced, too. Colors were amazing, and I felt very clean.


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5351366 - 02/28/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

200% ay?

I do notice differences in certain strains. Most people dont/cant because they have few points of reference.
It aint because of set or setting, or the fact that I trip harder evertime I ingest the same amount of shrooms.
Tai strains can be said to be a bit different than lets say gulf coast or mexis(for example). Most people are not experienced enough, or dont have the ability and background to distiguish the them from one another.
Im not saying one is more potent than the other, but tais are very visionary and physical(very visual too), mexis grown under the same conditions are more what people are looking for, (more visual and less physical).
Baeocystin is the likely cause of the difference because it is a mild respitory inhibiter though its effects are like psilocybin, though it is less active and psilocybin could be considered to be a mild respitory inhibitor its self.
Psilocin and psilocybin are metabolized at different rates. The different composition of such alkaloids present in different strains also makes a difference(but not much at all).
Its pretty accurate when people say a cub is a cub.
Some people have the ability to tell the difference via uncommon observational skills in combination with having grown many different strains themselves. I cant trip anymore because I am so sensative.
Over the years a few strains stand out(grown at totally different times with many unrelated strains inbetween).
The tai's just stand out as the best mushrooms, but not because they are more visual.
Each strain inherently has its own personality if each strain is grown under the same growing conditions. I have found that most people can not tell the difference though.


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: stemmer]
    #5351664 - 02/28/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I just want to thank everyone for their input, it is much appreciated,I've decided to go ahead and try the z strain, and I'll let you guy's know how it goes, by the way this will be my very first grow, I already have everything except for the spores, and jars. I think everything will go good especially with the knowledge that everyone here has shared. You guys are great!!!


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Re: "Z" strain? [Re: hellucinogen]
    #5351696 - 02/28/06 11:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If it was my first time growing Id go with a fast growing, contam resistant variety, that also produces massive fruits. The tais are up there with the best in those ways.
Just so you know, the z strain may be harder to grow than many other types. It could be like the golden teacher which is said to be very potent, but the mycilium grows slower, it does not produce large fuits as easily, and it is not contam-resistant in comparison to other types of cubs.


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