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OfflineEkstaza
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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: Helge]
    #5360660 - 03/03/06 04:52 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

The alcohol evaporates. It's gone and can't be reused unless you find a way to collect the vapor.

It will never dry out completely in order for you to make a powder from it. This is because you are extracting mescaline freebase and that is an oil. It will dry out enough to roll into little balls and coat with flour or something to make it less sticky. I've even thought of chocolate coating them. You can make lots of the and store them in the freezer for later use.

Unfortunately this wastes a lot of alcohol. You want to re-soak the cactus powder with alcohol as many times as it takes to get all of the goods out of the powder. When the alcohol stops taking on a dark green color and is transparent light green you are done.


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #5360975 - 03/03/06 09:09 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

alright! Just what I needed to know... well, now it is only a matter of time before my cacti arrives and I should be able to get started!
-Helge _


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: Helge]
    #5361070 - 03/03/06 10:07 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

self life of the goo?


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: thedudenj]
    #5361417 - 03/03/06 12:32 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Good question... There wont be any potency loss if I store this "goo" in the freezer for an extended period of time. Say a month or so? Also, how long should I let the Cacti soak... I have heard many different reports on this, some say days, some say weeks.. Any ideas?
-Helge


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: Helge]
    #5364059 - 03/04/06 09:49 AM (18 years, 19 days ago)

The shelf life should be indefinitely. Mescaline is a very stable molecule. It should last for quite some time if stored in the freezer. You just need to treat it like a food substance. If it were peas, how would you store it for the long term?


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #5364141 - 03/04/06 10:29 AM (18 years, 19 days ago)

sooooooooooo

how prone is this to fucking up? I tried to make ISO alcohol hash with weed once and ended up with no usable product.

as opposed to the method of just chewing up the skin and swallowing the juice....... is it REALLY that unberable to do?

how much of a smell of vodka does it leave while evaporating?


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: leery11]
    #5364253 - 03/04/06 11:10 AM (18 years, 19 days ago)

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leery11 said:
sooooooooooo

how prone is this to fucking up? I tried to make ISO alcohol hash with weed once and ended up with no usable product.

as opposed to the method of just chewing up the skin and swallowing the juice....... is it REALLY that unberable to do?

how much of a smell of vodka does it leave while evaporating?




the taste is VERY unbearable.
its like eating vomit mixed with a hint of cactus.
you dont want to expierence it :wink:


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5364913 - 03/04/06 03:15 PM (18 years, 19 days ago)

Yeah... It makes shrooms taste like candy... For me it isn't possible to try eating the shit unless it is in capsules.. I gag just thinking about the taste. For me the ONLY way to go is shit loads of capsules or extraction(which I will be trying very soon) Even when I made the capsules I had to try to kinda clean the outsides by rubbing them on paper towel just so the capsules didn't taste like the cactus.. It is just that bad... I give anyone here props who can just straight eat the shit and chase it down..
-Helge

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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: Helge]
    #5366897 - 03/05/06 10:02 AM (18 years, 18 days ago)

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Helge said:
I give anyone here props who can just straight eat the shit and chase it down..
-Helge





Ill double that statement


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5366994 - 03/05/06 10:40 AM (18 years, 18 days ago)

YAAY! I get props! :woot:

I blendered and slugged about 8" of T. peruvianus after de-skinning, de-needling, and coring out the pulpy part. It's like drinking a big glass of really bitter snot. It definently worked, but :argh:, it's nasty. I don't think I could do it again.... and the feeling the raw goo leaves in your stomach before digestion is gross and nauseating too.

Extraction in ANY form is better than just powering down the raw shite.


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: mediman0078]
    #5574369 - 04/30/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Try pudding and powerd catus, its way better.


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: BlindLemon]
    #5574445 - 04/30/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Try pudding and powerd catus, its way better.



You're still consuming the cactus flesh which is tough to digest. I'd make tea before taking cactus powder again. And I ain't about to swallow any cactus tea any time soon.


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #5575235 - 04/30/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

just making sure, does the alcohol sufficiently get all the mescaline out of the cactus pulp? or would using a petroleum either and then drying before the alcohol part help?

Also can one get the same effects with denatured alcohol but evaporate it completely?

I'm also to understand that sometimes a highly acidic substance is sometimes used in mescaline extractions such as citric acid or even Hcl. Why is this?


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: BlindLemon]
    #5575246 - 04/30/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

omg i have been waiting for this one for a week

thats it
sure acid base makes mescaline but you lose some of the other stuff in the cactus and it loses some of its soul


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: thedudenj]
    #5575255 - 04/30/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Oh cool, was that just extracted with alcohol? If so what type and what proof?

BTW that shure looks good :tongue2:  Let us know how it is.

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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: BlindLemon]
    #5575785 - 04/30/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

some people put maria (weed) on alcohol and let ti sit for a time but if u cut the cactus in pieces ant put It in vodka for like 15 to 20 day this will release all the goods and the only thing u have to do is drink the vodka with u favorite juice or soda. of course u will have to be sure u rem place the bottle before dink it, also u can eat the pieces of cactus after u chance the vodka to a new bottle that would give u a nice trip. note: it may don't taste good but if u can eat it man u will be so happy

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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: trance_21]
    #5575795 - 04/30/06 11:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i do this before wit peyote i am from Mexico so I'm not a liar or making a joke

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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: trance_21]
    #5577023 - 05/01/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well i soaked 75grams of torch in iso alcohol for 3 days then strained and evaporated it to form that tar and it was really good


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: thedudenj]
    #5580863 - 05/02/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

finally, some NOT cactus flesh :wink:


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Re: MESCALINE ALCOHOL EXTRACTION? [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5581616 - 05/02/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Here is a good way that works for me and my friends without alcohol.

Blender the fresh cactus, spines and all. It will be bright green foamy stuff. Chuck it on the pot on high. When the liquid has gone brown and the foamyness has gone leave to cool. Strain/squeeze through a pillow case or t-shirt )if you can pressing will help get it all out. You can save the solids, add water and repeat the process with them to get most of the mescaline.

In a new pot pour in your strained liquid - it should be muddy brown with fine dust-like particles in it. Boil down to whatever consistancy you like. You can even boil down to a "putty" which can be rolled into balls and swallowed. Typicially I boil down quite alot - I end up having about 1/3 of a coffee mug for a level 2-3 trip.

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