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OfflineGopal
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The real deal on Overgrow.com
    #5349936 - 02/28/06 03:22 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

It has been over a month since overgrow.com went offline, but the real news of the bust is only just coming out.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/qc/comm/2006/fev06/060228a_e.htm

Its a big one, be careful folks and take any precautions you need to.

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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Gopal]
    #5349984 - 02/28/06 03:31 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Since the searches were conducted, 272 orders have been intercepted by the police.







" C" Division - News Releases

THE RCMP DISMANTLES AN INTERNATIONAL DRUG
DISTRIBUTION NETWORK ON THE INTERNET

MONTR?AL, Tuesday, February 28, 2006 ? The members of the Marihuana Grow Operations Enforcement Team of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police concluded their first major operation when they uncovered a Montreal based criminal organization involved in the trafficking, importation and exportation of cannabis seeds, as well as in conspiring for the purpose of cannabis cultivation via the Internet. This operation was launched in November 2004 under the name "Courriel" and culminated with the seizure of 200,000 cannabis seeds and the arrest of seven persons.

Project "Courriel" revealed that Richard Hratch BAGHDADLIAN, 38, from Marsan Street in Montreal, and six other persons operated the Heaven?s Stairway company. This company was on the web claiming to be the North American supplier for indoor and outdoor cannabis production.

The cybercompany Heaven?s Stairway used the Internet sites hempqc.com, cannabisworld.com, overgrow.com, eurohemp.com, cannabisseeds.com, and cannabisbay.com. These sites were used to order cannabis seeds online and obtain information on cannabis cultivation. These Internet sites also suggested ways to outsmart the police.




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Richard Hratch BAGHDADLIAN was the instigator, head and main beneficiary of the illicit company Heaven?s Straiway. The other six accused acted as couriers and performed other duties for the company. They are Geoffrey CHAN, 33, Maria Cristina CIVITILLO, 32, Natalie BAGHDADLIAN, 40, Manuel Bento FERNANDES, 45, Christopher ALMOND, 38, and Teresa RODRIGUES, 39. They all live in Montreal except Christopher ALMOND who lives in Ville Saint-Laurent.

The organization processed approximately 30 orders of cannabis seeds a day averaging $100 each. The seeds were sent to clients by regular mail.

The seven people are facing 49 charges under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act and the Criminal Code of Canada. The offences were committed in Quebec, Canada, North America, the United Kingdom and elsewhere in the world between March 12, 1998 and January 31, 2006.

Nine searches were carried out during the week of January 30, 2006 in order to gather evidence that criminal activities had been committed. The searches were conducted in Montreal and Laval, as well as in the residences of three of the accused, a business, three post office boxes, a vehicle and a safe-deposit box.

These searches led to the seizure of 200,000 cannabis seeds, more than $183,362 in US currency and $14,000 in Canadian currency, both in cash and postal money orders, three one-kilogram gold bricks, a Harley-Davidson motorcycle, a Mazda RX8 and many purchase orders. Since the searches were conducted, 272 orders have been intercepted by the police.

The amount of seeds seized during the searches could have made it possible to operate approximately 500 cannabis greenhouses of 400 plants each, which represent 42 million joints sold on the street.

The seven accused are liable to 10 years? imprisonment. Since the possession of cannabis seeds is illegal under Schedule II of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, clients of the network could also receive a visit from the police.

It should be noted that Project "Courriel", a first in Canada, is the fruit of the work of the new Marihuana Grow Operations Enforcement Team. This new drug enforcement team is one of the seven teams established by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police across Canada in 2004 to combat the scourge of marihuana. The main objectives of these teams are to interdict drugs before they arrive in our communities and to target and destroy the infrastructure and the networks used by criminal organizations involved in marihuana production. These organizations constitute a threat to public safety and well-being.

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OfflineGopal
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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Schwip]
    #5350117 - 02/28/06 04:11 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Check out this thread

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/sh...023#Post1217818

Apparently the servers were confiscated in the raid, they are shown in that thread among pictures of seized items.

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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Gopal]
    #5350457 - 02/28/06 05:59 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

wow this is a major turn event in the drug community


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5350858 - 02/28/06 08:06 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

wow seeds are illegal in canada.

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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5352793 - 03/01/06 09:08 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Uh. No they aren't. They are specifically not illegal, just like stems. If you really want to be a stickler about it marijuana isn't even really illegal in Canada.


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Heffy]
    #5352882 - 03/01/06 09:40 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Heffy said:
Uh. No they aren't. They are specifically not illegal, just like stems. If you really want to be a stickler about it marijuana isn't even really illegal in Canada.




Not according to the RCMP in that article. Maybe you should let them know.

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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Heffy]
    #5352898 - 03/01/06 09:44 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Heffy said:
Uh. No they aren't. They are specifically not illegal, just like stems. If you really want to be a stickler about it marijuana isn't even really illegal in Canada.




you have much to learn about the law in canada, all parts of the plant is illegal
posession in excess of 30 grams is a criminal (indictable) offence, when the laws
change this year posession of more than 15 grams will be indictable

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-38.8/index.html

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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5353436 - 03/01/06 12:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Canada is really going to shit this year, eh?

And when are people going to stop basing their legal knowledge on "I heard" crap. It is understandable if something has been misrepresented to you. No one looks up every law, we take people's authority on it. But when someone is saying to you that the laws are otherwise, why would you go and post a rumor without first looking it up? Regardless of which side of the argument you're on.


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Gopal]
    #5353744 - 03/01/06 02:24 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like hempcultivation.com went down too.

I think we need to contact our (elected? I thought you had to get the majority of the votes to be elected.) leaders and inform them that this isn't 1936 and Reefer Madness was only a movie.

LEO is earning his paycheck, FINALLY! Somebody give him a cookie!


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: FungusFriend]
    #5354247 - 03/01/06 05:13 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

And to think a few years ago marijuana was to be decriminalized in Canada...


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: FooMan]
    #5359852 - 03/02/06 10:32 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/mpforms.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/timeline.htm
http://www.iamm.com/
I wouldn't say something like that without some links. I am a member of the church of the universe. The church practices "Legal Self Defence" or "LSD". You can win a pot related charge in Canada with no lawyer. I swear I'm not joking.


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: RiverMan]
    #5359882 - 03/02/06 10:41 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

yeah what happened with that? i hope BC is still chillin

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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: InTheFlesh714]
    #5361142 - 03/03/06 10:48 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

"Since the possession of cannabis seeds is illegal under Schedule II of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, clients of the network could also receive a visit from the police."

Is the RCMP just trying to strike fear in the hearts of stoners and growers everywhere or will they make good on their threats? It's at times like these that I wish I knew more about criminal law. Any lawyers around here?

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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: InTheFlesh714]
    #5362281 - 03/03/06 05:01 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not quite sure what happenned. If I remember correctly, Liberals put the decriminalization bill on their agenda 2 or 3 parliamentary years in a row. They ended up putting some other bills ahead of it (talk about political cowardness) until there was no more time to pass it. The last time I believe elections were simpy voted before the end of the sessions. That's what I remember anyways.

Now of course we know Harper isn't going to change anything about the current laws... At least not in favor of decriminalization.


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: RiverMan]
    #5364257 - 03/04/06 11:11 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

At this point in life, I am SOOOOO happy that I never ordered seeds on line. Bag seed treated me well for those many months.

I am grateful and lucky.


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5382001 - 03/09/06 04:23 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

here here Delinquentes


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: blaze2]
    #5388032 - 03/11/06 01:23 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

bob dammit what a shame all that priceless info is now just dust in the wind


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: LeastResistance]
    #5388127 - 03/11/06 02:27 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I miss overgrow as well... :frown:


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: SleepAid]
    #5389607 - 03/11/06 04:01 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

What happend to Canada?

Conservative party won, first time in over a decade.


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: MxIndustry]
    #5389696 - 03/11/06 04:33 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

The bust operation started in Fall 2004, I believe.


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5390234 - 03/11/06 07:56 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

i think it was a push from teh states because they where sending seeds there.I doubt if they really care but it is more of a image thing for canada. i dont know though its just what i think.


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: the man]
    #5391325 - 03/12/06 08:53 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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the man said:
i think it was a push from teh states because they where sending seeds there.




accept the responsibility of the government you elected to office, seeds are
illegal in canada, marijuana is illegal in canada and canadians have reasonable
expectation for free press/speech.

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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5392537 - 03/12/06 04:51 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

none of this is really happening. The MEDIA IS CONTROLLING YOUR MINDS. It is a plot from the pot smoking canadian politicians to keep the american pot heads from migrating north.


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Re: The real deal on Overgrow.com [Re: tak]
    #5393395 - 03/12/06 09:01 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Hey thats a good idea.







Naw u americans aint so bad.

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