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Getting off the MJ
    #5349008 - 02/28/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

A little background info.  I'm 21 years old.  I attend a large university.  I life in a house with 4 other guys...all daily cannibus users.  I have been a daily user for almost 5 years now.  The past few months I have been getting these intuitions to stop smoking weed.  Easy right....just stop smoking.  Well, the problem is that 90% of my friends smoke.  We all love it.  There have been 2-3 week spans where I have been in a financial jam and wasn't able to have my own buds...but still managed to get high multiple times in a day without trying.  So you see, I can't escape it...but I really want to...I need to take a month break...at least!!! My  memory is HORRIBLE...I feel that I have no drive to accomplish anything anymore. I have pushed my college education on the back burner and my grades are very shitty. Before I started smoking everyday I was a 3.7 GPA....now I'm lucky to pull a 2.0 GPA.  I feel like I don't care anymore, and I hate that.  I have become a zombie...and I feel I need to get my life in order.

Quiting smoking is very hard in my enviroment.  There is someone smoking in my house all day long, everytime a friend calls to hang, it almost always means get high and do something.  Basically...I'm just looking for some advice from people who hav been in similar situations.  I know I need to have the strength to say no...and that's all up to me...but some words of encouragement would be nice. Thanks guys!  :confused:


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: FunkyLoFi]
    #5349033 - 02/28/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Its a tough situation friend, I myself have been there a few times, moderation is key in this game of life, if you dont want to smoke just dont. Peer pressure is hard, but tell your rommies that your are tryin to lay off the herb, hopefully they can understand. When I have tried its always my friends that try and bring me back into the circle again, moderation is key to me anyhow, hope that helps :sun:


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: Kerr]
    #5349079 - 02/28/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you Ryan, great advice, I have always been a fan of your posts and advice, you seem very down to earth.

I think I will talk to my roomates today and let them know I'm trying to cut back. Peer pressure is the biggest problem, no doubt. My friends are very understanding, loving, and helpful....but subconscouisly I can see how they don't want me to stop...like part of the circle would be missing.


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: Kerr]
    #5349092 - 02/28/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Just explain to your roommates that you need a break, ask if they wouldn't mind stepping out to do it or at least not doing it around you... Just be polite about it, if they give you a flat out "hell no" then your friends are dicks, but yeah, just try to ask them to just try to not expose you to it, just don't get pushy about it...

Other than that (this is probably the only time you'll hear me quote an anti-drug campaign) just say no... While this is pretty much useless in trying to get kids to avoid drugs, it's really good for breaking habbits... When your friends offer you a hit, even if you want it just say no, just make it a habbit to say no whenever someone offers it to you (if you think back, you'll probably remember a time when it was a habbit) after awhile you'll find that it gets easier and easier to turn down each time until you're doing it without even really thinking about what you're doing...

I'm still a daily user and have been for awhile but I did take about a month off last year, the first couple times saying no was damn hard, it was even more annoying having to sit there and wait for everyone else to finish the joint, after about 3-4 days though you'll really notice the change, you'll be glad that you're not smoking, and you'll be glad that you haven't been, I found myself unnexplicably happier and really wanting to get things done, then I realized that I don't really like being happier than normal for no apparent reason and that I didn't really have anything to do... that and I like pot...  :lol:


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: FunkyLoFi]
    #5349111 - 02/28/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

There are two options that this part of me sees....
first is cold turkey, second is weening.

They both work. What you have to assess is do you want to quit cannabis forever? If so. Cold turkey. It will suck balls for a few days. Maybe a few weeks. But then its over. You just sit down and meditate whenever it hurts and you are jonesing for a toke, and meditate until you watch the desire disappear. Not too difficult considering its weed and not heroin or tobacco I would assume. But the problem is its a habit and you LIKE it.

So if you wnt to use responsibly, then set yourself up some limits. First of all take a break until the haze GOES AWAY.... I mean I never smoked that heavy but I've still at times found myself stupid and foggy headed from too much herb use.... you gotta let yourself come down and be SOBER again.... it will be trippy.

Once that happens just smoke once in a while. Do it not for fun. Do it to TRIP. I'm serious. Use marijuana as a hallucinagen... it is one, it will take you places and teach you things.... do not use it to have fun and watch adult swim and gorge on yummy food.

I mean that's all shit you can do after you've done the introspection... but smoke those buds to go on a journey..... treat them as special.

The first time you smoke it really trips you out, but then you're like "ah well its just weed" and you start abusing it to watch TV and goof off..... not saying you can't have a smoke to watch tv and goof off... but the primary focus is on using it as a spiritual agent.

This might mean only smoking a few times a week or less..... the downside is its still a habit and we aren't in a free country yet.... but hopefully we will become freer soon.

But just really check yourself.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5349085/an/0/page/0
read my thread about what weed is like. can be like. should be like.


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: FunkyLoFi]
    #5349112 - 02/28/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I feel ya, its really hard to stop, sometime I feel like I want to and other I dont want to, its all about will power. I find now my new situation is a little more forgiving in terms of pressure from my roomies. The one thing I learnt is to just say "no thanks Im good at the moment".
Now I like to make sure I will be doing something after I smoke, not just sit on my arse, either come on the shroomery, open up a book, grab my pen and pad, go for a walk, just look out my window and think about stuff. This way it makes it much more personal and it takes away the session or dosing feeling. I feel now a days that alot of people see taking drugs as a dosage, a single setting, a single time, the way I see it is as a stepping stone in a wonderful journey that we are all allowed to take, we just have to notice the bus and jump aboard, peace and good vibes, you'll get through this on way or the other :sun::peace:


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: leery11]
    #5349143 - 02/28/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you all! Wonderful! I can feel myself filling with energy as I take in the advice. I just recieved a phone call from a friend asking if I wanted to toke....I told him to stop on over to chill, but I wasn't interested in the smoke...and I feel good about it.

Leery...you are absolutely correct. I have been treating cannibis as a narcotic, a way to get fucked up or get my fix. I have been doing this for too long. I need to take it back to my original days of smoking...for the experience, the trippy experience. I want to feel that from pot again! You guys are great! Thank you!


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: FunkyLoFi]
    #5349266 - 02/28/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was in the same situation at the end of january. Just needed to take a break from the MJ so I told all my mates (most smoke) that I just needed some time alone to concentrate on my studies and get away from the temptation of smoking. Only took like three weeks no I can hang out with my friends and not have the desire to smoke! The first week was a nightmare! but i feel better about myself for it.


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: Captain1]
    #5349502 - 02/28/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I would suggest trying to get a girlfriend who doesnt smoke.


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: Chrissss]
    #5349572 - 02/28/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Somebody might have said this but some of the posts were pretty long and I'm out the door. I'm sorry to hear that the buds are fucking up your life but the one trick that I do to keep toking is getting my shit done first, them cheefing. It makes getting high a lot more enjoyable knowing that the studies are done and I can just fucking rot on the couch for a couple of hours watching cartoons. GL to you man


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: Atheist]
    #5349704 - 02/28/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Start by not buying it, eventuallly your friends will stop giving you as much, when you stop getting them back. Baby steps man, I quit cold turkey for probation, believe me I know your pain. Peace

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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: blaze2]
    #5351391 - 02/28/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

don't quit weed, take a break.


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: aDoS]
    #5351408 - 02/28/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

LUNACY!!!11!!1!!ONE!

Naw... that's good. Cut back but don't "quit". That's for losers. I hate it when people tell me they've quit smoking weed, only to ask me to front a gram or smoke them up a few days later. It's actually annoying as fuck, but good move it seems.

My throat feels funny, like I'm on the verge of being sick. I haven't not smoked since I left the country for a couple of weeks. This is good. I'm cutting back heavily... in fact, I haven't been smoking much at all. Now I completely abstain. You should take lecithin, bro. I must sound like an infomercial as I recommended the same thing in another random thread... but yeah, the shit's good. I actually need to pick some up tomorrow!


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: browndustin]
    #5351956 - 03/01/06 01:05 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I quit smoking weed about 5 months ago. I thought to myself, "self, it's time to quit smoking weed.....starting monday." So, I smoked out everyone I knew and the last of my stash I gave to my girlfriend. Everyone smokes except me. It's no big deal. I play alot of poker and everyone there smokes weed. 7 at a table and when the joint gets to me, I just pass it on. There's more important things in life than getting high.


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: BataviaVakereli]
    #5352466 - 03/01/06 06:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was in a similar situation a few weeks ago.

The best advice I can give is to let your friends know you will be stopping for some time. However, I think you are more than strong enough to be able to hang with your friends while they smoke and not be tempted. It's easier than you think. As soon as you stop, you'll pride yourself on not taking a puff- it really isn't that hard to say "I'll pass for a month" to your buddies- if they're true friends, they'll understand.

But try hanging around your friends while they smoke. It's actually pretty fun being around people who are high even when you aren't. For me, when I took time off, hanging around people smoking was my biggest relieve. I could be in the environment and could have fun with my friends, but could also clear my mind and head at the same time!

You'll be fine, good luck


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Re: Getting off the MJ [Re: FunkyLoFi]
    #5358031 - 03/02/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I've been a very very heavy daily pot smoker for 6 years now. I'm 21 years old, and I'm starting to feel like you do. Weed is definitely a narcotic for me. i use it both to escape, or just to reduce boredom. Many of my friends smoke as well. First of all, people do have good advice in these posts, but for most people pot isn't too addictive. I on the other hand am very addicted simply because its such a huge part of my life. My biggest problem isn't saying no to weed, but not suggesting it myself! I would never call someone to go out without being hight. So i do know how much pot can have a hold on you. I wish you the best of luck in your effort to cut down. Let me know how it goes, because i could sure use inspiration to tackle my own MJ habit.

I have tripped on shrooms maybe 15-20 times, but i usually use it as a party drug, and do about 1/8th. I recently had a 5 gram solo trip to try and gain some personal insights. It was great, but i want to try a higher dose and see if i can transcend my ego. One of the major problems in my life are a result of my daily pot habit and my general reliance on drugs (and alcohol) as a means of escape.

I am developing a much more profound respect for mushrooms and don't so much see it as a social or party drug, but as a tool for self-exploration. Do you thing mushrooms may help me sort out some of my internal thoughts/feelings regarding WHY i insist on living 90% of my life high on some substance? Or do you think that given my reliance on intoxicants, it may be futile to use a psychedelic to gain the necessary insights to tackle my drug dependence?


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