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cloned
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Hello, im new and i need some guidance
#5348778 - 02/28/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello you all, I have been reading the watching this site for about a mont and now i decided to finally register. I went to amsterdam with my friends more then a month ago and we send two differend grow kits and a sporeprint as souvenirs. my friend who bought the growkits tore the instructions off the packaging because he was concerned that it wouldn't get trough customs if the officials knew that it has "drugs" in it. I ended up growing the kits because im the only one that has his own flat and is careful enough not to ruin the kits.  The first one of the growkits looks a lot like the one in this guide http://www.azarius.net/uk/growboxinstructions_UK.pdf and i have actually been growing it according to that manual because the original instructions were torn off as i said. It started fruiting just last sunday. The next one it the "shroom shaker"-type like in here and it started colonising last week. OK. enough of rantings. I'm gonna gather the first flush of mushrooms next mondey and i had some questions about that. 1. can i pick them by hand with sterelized gloves on, or do i need to use a sterilised blade? 2. should i try to pick the mushrooms that are growing on the sides of the kit or could it do harm to the culture? 3. I have a faint memory about some guide saying that the "cake" should be flipped upside down so the next flush of the kit would grow from the "bottomside", is it really worth it to try to "flip it" or will the whole cake fall apart if i try to take it out of the box? Thank you.
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coda
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Re: Hello, im new and i need some guidance [Re: cloned]
#5348784 - 02/28/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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you dont need gloves or sterile hands yes no, thats not needed.
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thenewguy05
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Re: Hello, im new and i need some guidance [Re: coda]
#5348801 - 02/28/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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PICK EVERYTHING!!! most kits don't support very many flushes so i would pick everything you can off from it while you can.
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cloned
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Re: Hello, im new and i need some guidance [Re: thenewguy05]
#5351850 - 03/01/06 12:11 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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thank you for the answers, and here comes another question, should i open the top of the bag to give mushrooms more air?
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Re: Hello, im new and i need some guidance [Re: cloned]
#5351870 - 03/01/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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no
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cloned
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Re: Hello, im new and i need some guidance [Re: fungiamongi2]
#5393932 - 03/13/06 12:06 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i dried my first flush by freezing and unfreezing the mushrooms and let the melting water be absorbed by paper towels. I anly read the Mushroom information- preserving mushrooms section and it said nothing about freezing fresh mushrooms, only later i discovered this article http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23387 maybe i'm in denial but judging mushrooms potency from its superficial qualities sound very superstitious to me. The second flush is coming soon and i want to get it right this time... Should i just split a wire from an old mobile phone charger and make a fan-ventilated box or is there any easier/more effective(potency-preservation-wise) ways to dry them?
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Rahz
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Re: Hello, im new and i need some guidance [Re: cloned]
#5393970 - 03/13/06 12:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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A fan and a cardboard box will dry them most of the way, heat accelerates the process. A food dehydrator works great. An oven on low heat, with the door slightly open will do it, but that's cost prohibitive. Many say to keep the heat at 150 or below, though the actives have been proven to begin breaking down at 400. Some have reported no loss of potency when drying at 200.
However you do it, there will be a bit of water left in them. Placing them in a sealed chamber with some damprid, or silica gel (think kitty litter) will take them the rest of the way. I place my shrooms in mason jars, put some silica in a coffee filter, tie it off and throw that on top. Bone dry.
Rahz
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cloned
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Re: Hello, im new and i need some guidance [Re: Rahz]
#5394017 - 03/13/06 12:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks, i think I'll buy some kitty litter today, silica gel is so god damn hard to find here... I'll let you know how the first batch ended up, when i find someone to feed them to
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Rahz
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Re: Hello, im new and i need some guidance [Re: cloned]
#5394070 - 03/13/06 12:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just to be clear, kitty litter = silica gel. I think there are other kinds (I have no cats), you want the clear crystals -w- blue mixed in. It will be labled as silica.
Rahz
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cloned
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Re: Hello, im new and i need some guidance [Re: Rahz]
#5397949 - 03/14/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yesterday I went to my local general store to find the kitty-litter. None of the boxes said the exact contents of the box, one said only that it contains clay-derived components that absorb water very effectively. None of the boxes said anything about silica... I'm too lazy to hunt for the real thing so I'm going to use this cheap-ass-kitty litter i bought. hope it works. Edit: just harvested the second flush and put them in the fan-box about 10 minutes ago. some of them had already started spreading their spores and my fingertips got black when i was cleaning them... their colour is bothering me a bit tho... is it OK for them to have some bluish green on them?
Edited by cloned (03/15/06 01:20 AM)
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cloned
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Got some pictures [Re: cloned]
#5406479 - 03/15/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edited by cloned (03/15/06 11:07 PM)
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cappa
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Re: Got some pictures [Re: cloned]
#5406528 - 03/15/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm confused. Why are you freezing and melting the shrooms when you just have to put them in front of a fan? Is this some new tek I haven't heard of yet? Spores are often bluish in color. If you saw them drop from the underside of the fruit.. why are you bothered?
As far as the kitty litter goes.. I dunno. I have a feeling that many are made from very different material.
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cloned
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Re: Got some pictures [Re: cappa]
#5406579 - 03/15/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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well it was my own misguided tek because i was worried about heat ruining them. I'm not sure how they ended up because i haven't had the time to test their potency. But this time I'm doing it right with the fan-box and all. The for the first flush there was only one opened cap and that's when the greenish blue appeared. But do the spores change colour over time? i mean when i harvested the second flush there was black spores all over the place.
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Re: Got some pictures [Re: cloned]
#5406586 - 03/15/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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cloned said: My friend took some pics from the kit... growing, you can see some of the greenish blue i was talking about in here,
is that the green monster i see in that pic?
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Edited by stelthvue (03/15/06 11:19 PM)
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Rahz
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Re: Hello, im new and i need some guidance [Re: cloned]
#5406593 - 03/15/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Blue-green would be bruising, it's a good thing
As for the kitty litter, I'm not sure how effective a clay based litter will be. You can try getting some damp-rid at the hardware store, it'll work just as good.
Rahz
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cloned
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Re: Got some pictures [Re: stelthvue]
#5406690 - 03/15/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stelthvue said:
is that the green monster i see in that pic?
Green monster? The mushroom strain is supposed to be Mexican.
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Rahz said:
Blue-green would be bruising, it's a good thing
Thanks for reassuring me . I were afraid it was mold or something else as serious.
Edited by cloned (03/16/06 12:21 AM)
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