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Standard Salvia Dose
    #5346281 - 02/27/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Seeing as how I've never taken any real psychedelics, I read up a bit and figure that salvia is a good introductory drug. But I couldn't really find any conclusive dose suggestions. I intend on eating the leaves, not smoking them. Does anyone who has eaten the leaves know how many it takes to produce a moderate trip?


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Re: Standard Salvia Dose [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5346290 - 02/27/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It varies remarkably. I've seen some people be floored off one hit of 5x, and I've seen some people smoke a hit of 20x and feel nothing but a little warmer. Some even have a reverse tolerance.

The only way to find out is trial and error.


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Re: Standard Salvia Dose [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5346302 - 02/27/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The trick is to not EAT leaves but rather chew them and retain them in your mouth to have your gums and membranes absorb the Salvinorins.

0.5-5 dried grams would be usual amounts and exposure times typically are 10-30 minutes.

Me, personally, I like some 0.25-2.5gr for a slight to moderate inebriation. With Salvia you will probably find you want to avoid intense intoxications, as these can be uniquely unpleasant.

Salvia, especially when chewed, is *visionary* and radically different from anyuthing you know.

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Re: Standard Salvia Dose [Re: Asante]
    #5346309 - 02/27/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Should you dry them prior to ingestion, or eat straight from the plant?


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Re: Standard Salvia Dose [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5346316 - 02/27/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I find that eating them straight from the plant is more bitter but it seems more potent and effective.

10gr fresh leaves really get to me :heart:


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Re: Standard Salvia Dose [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5346378 - 02/27/06 05:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I have to say that salvia is not a good introductory drug to psychadelics; the 'trip' is very short, and that's if you can actually get high enough to feel something, depending on your intake method and if you are using extracts. The experience is very strange and has no real 'direction' or apogee. I have smoked the plain leaft and up to the 10x extracts and I have to say that in itself is not a drug that a complete psychonaut noobie should try due to the bizarre and super intense nature of it all, but that's just my opinion. You may be able to handle it, but I doubt you will even feel anything by eating or sucking on the leaves in your mouth, unless you do it right, like the Indigenous people of Mexico.

Anyhow, I assume you have gotten drunk before, and have smoked marijuana. These are two drugs you can take to get your mind 'used' to feeling a bit strange, out of place, and generally theywill help you somewhat prepare for what it's like to do a real psychadelic, though I bet many here would beg to differ. I suggest doing shrooms as your first experience; the mushroom is very easy on beginners, and you are almost guaranteed to have a good time if your setting is comfortable. Savlia  may in fact turn you off of psychadelics... whatever you do be safe and have fun  :wink:


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Re: Standard Salvia Dose [Re: chodamunky]
    #5346900 - 02/27/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

not a classic psychedellic but a true one IMHO
this and dmt smoked run quickly through the range of psychedellic effects
salvia oral is a waste
to get the full range it must be smoked.

visit www.sagewisdom.org for initial info.
interesting psychedellic effects are level 4
salvia has the widest range of dosing variance
smoking it is also rangy as to how much gets through the pipe how long it is held, what extract strength it is - etc.

i am not sure we are supposed to provide dosage information so I will indicate instead a likely combination of factors:

with 10x extract strength, a 150lb person smoking deliberately and intently, using a small pipe and regular lighter, then holding it in for 20 seconds, may take 1/40th to 1/20th of a gram and so arrive at level 4 - taking
more, he will sail into level 5 or 6 which are unpleasant and amnesiac by the intensity of distorted mind function that ensues.


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