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JustK


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Increasing yield, and improving pinsets
#5344960 - 02/27/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am on my 3rd grow now and am trying to increase my yield per flush and improve the pinsets so they are more even.
I went from this:
 1st Grow
To this:
This] 3rd Grow
I am using Coir/Verm, but plan on using peat when I run out of my coir. Or using the coir to spawn to and covering with peat.
Other than using poo what suggestions do you guys have?
NOTE** I have already read Hypae's pinning strategy and it has helped me get the better flush and pinset that you see above.
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FooMan



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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: JustK]
#5344975 - 02/27/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Try to clone one of those fruits and inoculate with that.
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FooMan



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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: JustK]
#5344982 - 02/27/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh, and try using a double tub. No fanning, misting or electronics needed and I've always gotten good results:
 
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Rickster
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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: FooMan]
#5344994 - 02/27/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said: Oh, and try using a double tub. No fanning, misting or electronics needed and I've always gotten good results:
 
What Kind of tec do you go by, Grain, h.poo?
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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: JustK]
#5345027 - 02/27/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Could someone point us to a double tub construction tek?
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FooMan



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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: mushmouth]
#5345043 - 02/27/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushmouth said: Could someone point us to a double tub construction tek?
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3026085#Post3026085
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4323984#Post4323984
Rickster: I usually use poo. For that particular grow, I just spawned WBS to straight coir. I didn't even use a casing layer.
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FooMan



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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: JustK]
#5345049 - 02/27/06 12:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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JustK


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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: FooMan]
#5345272 - 02/27/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I use a PMP right now and it works really well. I like the Double Tub and have been looking into going that route.
Do you think I could just spawn to straight coir and have better results while still using my PMP?
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JustK


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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: JustK]
#5345302 - 02/27/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are a few shrooms in there that have the veils broken and I always try to pick them before they drop spores to keep the mess minimal.
Can I pick the ones that are ready and let the others mature or pick them all at once to seperate flushes? I have seen conflicting views on this and need clarification.
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coda
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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: JustK]
#5345303 - 02/27/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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it doesnt matter when you harvest.
closed caps with veil = more astheticall pleasing open caps that have flattened = great for printing
both forms = GOOD EATING!
A good way to let slow mushies catch up is to cut the cap off the older ones. This doesnt damage any surrounding pins and mushrooms and lets you print the cap while the others catch up.
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JustK


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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: coda]
#5345319 - 02/27/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am not interested in taking prints right now. I have a good amount of B+ spores and LC. I don't like B+ cause of hollow stems so I want another strain to grow.
I plan on winning some other prints from the scavenger hunt. I'm good at searching. 
I will definately take your advice and cut off the caps of the mature shrooms and allow the others to grow more.
I've heard though that you should harvest all in one swoop to give the substrate time to re-engergize and develop another flush.
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FooMan



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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: JustK]
#5345323 - 02/27/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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JustK said: Do you think I could just spawn to straight coir and have better results while still using my PMP?
It definitely helps retain moisture and adds some nutes, but don't expect results like you get with poo. I only did this to take some prints, not for big flushes. Spawning to coir will definitely be a step up from just cased grains, but poo is the good stuff!
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FooMan



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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: JustK]
#5345334 - 02/27/06 01:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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JustK said: I am not interested in taking prints right now. I have a good amount of B+ spores and LC. I don't like B+ cause of hollow stems so I want another strain to grow.
ALWAYS take at least a few prints. They're good for trades and syringes that go bad down the road.
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I plan on winning some other prints from the scavenger hunt. I'm good at searching. 
Good luck! The competition is as stiff as Ron Jeremy.
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JustK


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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: FooMan]
#5345653 - 02/27/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does peat tend to give a more even pinset since it performs the job of a true casing layer rather than allowing the mycellium to colonize it?
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coda
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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: JustK]
#5345665 - 02/27/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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peat is a better casing layer because its fluffier, has no nutes in it at all, and is less prone to overlay. It colonizes just fine
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JustK


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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: coda]
#5345698 - 02/27/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right, and since it has no nutes, the mycellium doesn't have to expend energy colonizing it like it does coir...so the time it takes to pin should be shorter, correct?
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Oatman2000
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Re: Increasing yield, and improving pinsets [Re: JustK]
#5346005 - 02/27/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes, in general
if you spawn to anything, it will take longer than it would to "Just case"
but if you want to expand your substrate, you can spawn it... and make it deeper just by waiting a few more days. (5)
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