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DoorOfPerception
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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: dedjam]
#5345312 - 02/27/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well its not just that I want her to do them with me, even though I do. Its actually more that when I said I was going to do them with or without her, she got kind of angry and said that she wasn't going to go out with someone who did drugs. So I need to figure out how to explain to her that its not a stupid addictive drug like meth or something. I thought that the best way for her to understand that would be for her to trip herself, but I from what you guys say its not a good idea for me to push her into it. So how do I convince her that its safe and I won't have any long-term negative side effects?
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dr0mni
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from my experience she'll never understand and she'll never accept your beliefs or what is important to you. Eventually this non-acceptance will separate you two...
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Psilocyan
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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: dr0mni]
#5345325 - 02/27/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm lucky enough to have someone that will glady take part in psychedelic experiences with me.
These girls do exist!
-------------------- I Psilocybe weilii... "I think of going to the grave without ever having a psychedelic experience like going to the grave without ever having sex." -McKenna
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DoorOfPerception
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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: dr0mni]
#5345328 - 02/27/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thats kind of what I'm trying to avoid. Should I give up on them altogether, or just play the "what she doesn't know won't hurt her" game?
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HeavyToilet
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Tell her there are no physically damaging side effects. And that it is impossible to OD, and that they aren't addictive, etc etc.
If she thinks they're damaging or anything, tell her you wont do them if she finds a source for it. An actual study. Which she wont because no studies have shown any damage caused by mushrooms.
Also you should get her to smoke weed with you first. Once she gets into blazing she'll probably be more open to other drugs.
Edited by HeavyToilet (02/27/06 01:26 PM)
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dr0mni
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no, it's best to be honest. If you can't be honest with her then why be with her? Why would you want to be in a relationship with someone who you can't be truly open and intimate with?
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DoorOfPerception
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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: dr0mni]
#5345374 - 02/27/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, you're definitely right. About the weed thing, she actually is kind of changing her mind about it. She used to be super adamant that she was never going to do it, then me and a friend got some seeds and are going to soon plant them and she kind of opened up about them. I think the part that turns her off most about drugs are going to people and buying them, so hopefully I'll give her some free pot and she'll open up more.
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Kaleidoscope
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Rather than convince...educate. Find good trustworthy information to show her about psychedelics and if shes even remotely openminded, she eventually will probably be ok with you trying them. She's just concerned for your safety at the moment but with a little education she should be able to see that you are making an informed decision and not just looking for a cheap thrill. Of course if you get her to be ok with your use of these compounds and they have a positive effect on your life, maybe she will decide that she wants to try it too.
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Purple haze, all in my brain, lately things just don't seem the same. Actin' funny but I don't know why, 'scuse me while I kiss the sky.
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DoorOfPerception
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Yeah, I'll have to work on that. Thanks a lot for your help too, guys.
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leery11
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i'd say you have to turn her on for her to understand.
either teach her how to lucid dream (perhaps let her fall asleep then wake her up after 30-40 minutes and try and guide her into an interactive hypnagogic trip like state [she'd be pissed i suppose but i'd do that to someone if i had the chance to have a sleeping partner])
or smoke her up some bud [which will be intense and kinda psychedelic for a first timer]
because really they just don't understand. You can't explain psychedelics to someone that hasn't even tried to experiment with their dreams, meditate, or do anything mystical. They don't understand the gravity of it. Even those who do try to meditate or dream can miss the spectrum entirely.
You could play some Tim Leary and Ann Shulgin mp3s for her where they talk very scientifically about the benefits of psychedelics and show her Leary's research findings on LSD (90% wanted to do it again, 60% or so said it changed their lives for the better... 3500 sample [which is a HUGE sample])
The only thing I could really do is speak about my experiences and how they have changed my life, and try to explain how it is like reconnecting to the childlike mind where all things are unique and un-ignored, where the dots on the wall are extremely important as are the clouds in the sky and your reflection in the mirror, and you are in tune with anything you come into contact with.
I would say that it is a free-ticket back into childhood, and depending on how severe the dose, BEFORE childhood back into death and birth and the straight up "bardo".
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
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DoorOfPerception
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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: leery11]
#5345961 - 02/27/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks so much man, that was the best advice I've had yet. I'll have to get right to work on those mp3s, and I'll read up on the lucid sleeping a bit then try that.
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Captain1
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I wish I had your problem. My g/f used to be a proper druggie as her last boyfriend was a dealer and he'd reguraly feed her 5 e's then another 5 an hour later to keep her drugged up all the time. She's gotten over that, but i've just introduced her to acid and shrooms and now i'm trying to convince her that acid isn't something she has to do more than like once every couple of months.
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