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OfflineDoorOfPerception
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Girlfriend and drugs?
    #5344919 - 02/27/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

So I have never done any drugs, except marijuana, but have been reading and trying to figure out all I can about psychedelic drugs so I can prepare myself for when I do take them. But my steady girlfriend is a firm non-believer in drugs. She doesn't seem to understand the difference between psychedelics and hard-heroin type drugs. But I also know that she's the type of person who, if given a psychedelic like peyote, shrooms, or even LSD would have a great trip and experience a lot. But the hardest part is convincing her. I tried explaining the benefits, the difference between addictive drugs and these, tried explaining that it could turn out that she would understand loads more about herself and I, how we fit into the universe, etc. I even told her that it wouldn't be a constant occurrence even, just an occasional trip. Not to escape the world, but to expand the mind. But she doesn't seem to understand. and I'm running out of ideas. Anybody got any help for me on this one?


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5344937 - 02/27/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You're a brave lad. I never even tried telling my girlfriend about my psychedelic drug use, she had a hard enough time with pot at first. Eventually I told her and it was rough. Maybe just gently continue to inform her of what the differences are between harder drugs and hallucinogens?


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5344941 - 02/27/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

She shouldn't need any convincing to try psychedelics.. in my opinion it's something you need to decide to do yourself without any pressure from friends.

Trying to force drugs, especially psychedelics, on people is a recipie for disaster - this is coming from someone who learned that lesson the hard way.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: Jfisher]
    #5344946 - 02/27/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

A lot of people won't give psychedelics a chance because of the horror stories that are associated with them.

My advice is, don't force anyone into doing something they don't want to, especially psychedelics, however; if you and your girlfriend are remotely serious, then this is something she has to accept about you. You want to experience new things and learn more about your individual self, and that she's welcome to join in at any time with you, but this is who you are. If she can't accept that, maybe she can't accept you?


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: Chikitta]
    #5344949 - 02/27/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't mean try to pressure his girlfriend into using them. I meant try to let her understand psychedelics better so that she might accept his use.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: Jfisher]
    #5344957 - 02/27/06 11:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry if things came out misdirected. I just meant, in general, don't pressure her. I agree to help her understand psychedelics better because misinformation is worse than no information, and chances are she's heard some rumors/stories about how bad tripping is for you and what can happen, so go to her, and educate  :smile: :thumbup: :peace:


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: Fictional]
    #5344981 - 02/27/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Its not that I'm totally pushing and trying to force her to do them, I just want her to know and understand that the worst thing that could happen is a bad trip. I explained the whole "set and setting" ideal, explained that I would be a trip-setter and that it would be safe. I just wanted to know if I was leaving anything out. Because I really do know that she would enjoy them if she just didn't have so many hang-ups about them


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5345123 - 02/27/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You should probably just leave her alone and not try convincing her at all.
But you can tell her how it was for you after tripping and what help it did for you without implicating that this means she should do it too.

If you are lucky she will eventually become curious.
That in my mind would be the best if not the only way.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5345153 - 02/27/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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But I also know that she's the type of person who, if given a psychedelic like peyote, shrooms, or even LSD would have a great trip and experience a lot.




How would you know? If you haven't even done them how could you say you know she'd have a great trip? Psychedelics aren't just some drug that you take to have a 'good time'. Psychedelics make you see a connection. What happens if you'd rather not see the connection and you do mushrooms? Sometimes ignorance can be bliss.

Don't underestimate them like that.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #5345170 - 02/27/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

MAybe you could start by dropping hints.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #5345189 - 02/27/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Its not that I'm underestimating them. While I'm not an expert, I DO know a lot about them. And she is the type of person who would seek a more enlightened state. She does meditation, which in a way is a drugless method of achieving a quasi-psychedelic state. And I'm not just a person who wants to get "buzzed." I do experience things that I otherwise wouldn't be able to. And I think that it would also help to achieve an even better state if I had someone to be there with me, and to discuss afterwards. And I thought that my girlfriend is the obvious choice, until I brought it up with her.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5345198 - 02/27/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I just want her to know and understand that the worst thing that could happen is a bad trip.




Oh what, a possible traumatic experience that could cause someone decades of regret? Yeah it aint no thang. :rolleyes:

And you're going to be a trip sitter? I wouldn't want a trip sitter who hasn't even done any psychedelics. You wouldn't understand the tripper's fear.

I have to say I don't approve of your approach to this situation.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5345203 - 02/27/06 12:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Alas, its too late to drop hints. I thought that she would be more perceptive to it, and so I just stuck it out there in the open. Maybe females are just naturally less perceptive than males, because 2 of my guy friends are totally for the idea, and one is even beginning the process of growing shrooms. My original idea was to get several of us close friends together and experience it. So I brought it up and the guys liked it, one female was hesitant about it, and my girlfriend was obviously totally against it.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5345211 - 02/27/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was going to do them first and later trip-sit for her.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5345212 - 02/27/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You should do them a few times before her. Then you'd have a much easier time controlling and understanding the situations if they arise.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5345222 - 02/27/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You shouldnt pressure her to do something she doesnt want to do.


instead, tell her that's what you do and if she doesnt accept it then she can find another boyfriend and tell her she is missing out on some beautiful experiences.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: ke1n]
    #5345231 - 02/27/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

But is it really worth it to lose her over these?
Like I said, I haven't done them so I don't know. But I also read about something in The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test that said people who tripped together would form some sort of serious bond together. Hence my wanting to do it with my closer friends.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5345257 - 02/27/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I also read about something in The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test that said people who tripped together would form some sort of serious bond together. Hence my wanting to do it with my closer friends.




I can attest to this fact...tripping with the same people multiple times allows a form of bonding to occur that otherwise probably would not happen. When tripping, your boundaries are dissolved and you will become more open with those around you than normally you would feel comfortable with. I would say that you and your girlfriend could really benefit from the experience if you did it together. That said, I would never suggest psychedelics to another person as a solution or enhancement to their current situation unless that person already had an expressed interest in them.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: DoorOfPerception]
    #5345288 - 02/27/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Alas, its too late to drop hints. I thought that she would be more perceptive to it, and so I just stuck it out there in the open. Maybe females are just naturally less perceptive than males, because 2 of my guy friends are totally for the idea, and one is even beginning the process of growing shrooms. My original idea was to get several of us close friends together and experience it. So I brought it up and the guys liked it, one female was hesitant about it, and my girlfriend was obviously totally against it.




Hmm I more often then not trip with females. My wife also loves to trip.

I don't think it is a female thing at all.

I also wouldn't talk about knowing anything about tripping till I had experienced it. I read and read and read before my first time, and it was ABSOLUTELY nothing that I expected it to be.

You also seem to understand a bad trip, which once again, you have to really experience to understand.

Its cool you want to share this with you g/f, but if she isnt receptive to it, then don't push it on her! Some people just have no intrest in tripping, and there is nothing wrong with that.

By pressuring her, you are probably turning her more away. Let her read on here and erowid and make up her own mind.

Remember, everyone works differently, don't assume anything.


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Re: Girlfriend and drugs? [Re: dedjam]
    #5345311 - 02/27/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well its not just that I want her to do them with me, even though I do. Its actually more that when I said I was going to do them with or without her, she got kind of angry and said that she wasn't going to go out with someone who did drugs. So I need to figure out how to explain to her that its not a stupid addictive drug like meth or something. I thought that the best way for her to understand that would be for her to trip herself, but I from what you guys say its not a good idea for me to ush her into it. So how do I convince her that its safe and I won't have any long-term negative side effects?


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