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OfflineUnder_net
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2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though
    #534215 - 01/28/02 06:59 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I have to admit it, of all the projects I have ever taken on(and thats quite a few) this is by the far the most challenging one I have ever had. First off I will start off with a little background info for anyone thats interested. If not just skip the next paragraph.
I am 2, maybe 3 months into this and all I really have to show is a shiteload of fully colonized jars, one fresh casing, and a bunch of afro engineered expriments still in the works. I will say that of the approximate 80 jars I have, not a one has fallen to contams though. And believe me, I feel as to be a rather filthy person.
I have dedicated a guest room to this effort however and I rarely go in there unless its to work on things(In which case I spray everything down with lysol, I live on that shit now).
Ok, first off, Today I started my first real casing. It is a 50-50 casing straight up. No additives! I just can't seem to locate any lime locally, and my debit card is in the negative at the moment due to columbia house not letting me cancel my membership. Anyways I set it up basically as per the book with 50:50 verm:peat. Dampened just enough to be able to barely squeeze out any water. I used 8 cakes to set up this casing and basically just cut the cakes in half and laid them down flat. Then at the end crumbling up a couple cakes to fill in the cracks. I dont know if it was better to do this or to crumble them all up. I figured when it comes time for picking though that this might work better.
Here is a pick of my casing sitting in a makeshift rubbermaid container at the moment.



I am not currently storing the casing in here , I just sat it in there for a sec to grab this picture. Following this is a picture of my casing covered in foil, and thats how I plan on letting it sit untill its colonized, unless anyone says differently.



(*** all of those cases of jars that are either fully colonized are pretty damn close***)
I will have to hustle to keep up with them. I was inoculating 2 cases a week there for a while. I am going to have to try to stall them by tightening the lids or something. Rarely do you here about people asking how to stall jars. Hehe

Ok, now for the moment however I am using the entire room as an incubator. Meaning that I have a small space heater that I am using to keep the rooms ambient temperature at around the low 80's. Thats why the jars and the casing are just sitting out in the open as you can see. When the casing is colinized and ready for the terrarium I will let the ambient drop to around 75 or so. I have noticed that the terr is usually a few degrees cooler than the ambient.

Now I have also been working on another terrarium that I will post pictures of here in a second. It's one that was inspired by Xazia. Basically a set of shelves covered with a plastic zip-up bag from K-mart. Though I am having a hard time getting the humidity up high enough. I dont know if its because I am using duct tape at the bottom, or if I need another humidifier, or if I have a bad humidity guage. I have 2 electronic humidity guages inside the terr that are reading at about 90%, and I also have a nicer(what I believe to be more acurate manual one) thats reading about 10 points lower at all times. For some reason I just dont trust those eletronic ones at high humidities. Another factor I am fighting is tha space heater in my room. I have noticed that it is producing "Dry heat" which any terrarium I build has to combat.

Anyways here are some pics of it.





The space heater I am using now has a fairly acurate thermostat on it, which I really like, but its set up more or less like a hair dryer. Some coiled wire with a fan behind it. And there is no doubt in my mond that it is eating water from the air. That humidifier is an older model, but it looks just like the vicks Kaz K400 which I hear is the model to get. Ive thought about getting a new one and hooking one to each tube.
Now those horizintal tubes that you see running inside. They run all the way across from one side to the other. There are 8 evenly spaced 1/4" holes drilled all the way across each piece of pvc. They shoot straight down the back, and From what Ive read they should keep enough air flow going that I dont have to fan it except maybe once a day.
I have thought that If I do end up getting another humidifier that I will place the tubes in the front so as they shoot upwards. That way the air flow will always be flowing in a circular motion around the terrarium. If I place like a thread in there hanging style, I can see that it is always moving no matter where I place it, which is good. Though its not a lot of air flow I think its enough to keep a constant air displacement going. Enough to kep the CO2 displaced without drying out the casings I plan to put in there.
Well thats where I stand now. Any helpful or motivation statements about what you have just read would certainly be appreciated. I have been working moderately hard at this for a few months now and spent way too much money. I sure was crazy when I atually thought I may be able to keep myself in shrooms plus maybe make be able to pay my expenses. At this point it's certainly not about money though. I am straight up on a mission. One of which I certainly don't plan on giving up on after this much work. I believe I am well past the stage that seperates the winners and the losers in this battle.

Thanks in advance for any information!!!






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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: Under_net]
    #534223 - 01/28/02 07:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Tighten the jar lids when they are fully colonized and store them in the fridge untill you want to fruit them.


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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: Under_net]
    #534230 - 01/28/02 07:12 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hey!

Looks great!! If you keep your conditions right I wouldn't even worry about making your money back. Just one or two casings and youll be breaking even Im sure even though you have spent a good bit of cash on this setup. Trust me...it'll be well worth it. Just be patient and do things right...no shortcuts and you'll be choking on shrooms shortly...

Keep up the good work!

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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: Under_net]
    #534231 - 01/28/02 07:15 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Wow...

That certianly does look like you put quite a bit of time into your terrariums. I wish I had enough money to actually buy all that shit!! :smile:

Im sure you're going to be teaching yourself a lot of things after 80 jars. You should try some different mediums for casing. Ive heard lots of good things about the coco coir, and for me it has been great. Saw the first patch of mycelium in about 2 days... :smile:

Good luck dude!


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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: Under_net]
    #534310 - 01/28/02 09:03 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Wow Under, Nice Job, looks like you got a real nice set up.
I'm exactly at the point you are except I have 8 casings and only about 10 jars. Just seen my first mycil on my casing, gonna cover the spots tonight. I did do one cake in the terraium and have a couple one inch shrooms and a bunch of small ones. I harvested about 6 small ones - Just couldn't wait.
Anyway,as one newbie to anothe,r they are really worth the trouble. Don't get disgusted, just keep going you are so close.
I agree, when I started part of my motivation was money, but after getting into this hobby that just not as important anymore. It would be great just to defray the costs so I could pay for all this jerry rigged equipment.

Again Nice work!!!

Peace,
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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: repobob]
    #534376 - 01/28/02 10:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

After you have some experience you can start using whole grains and eventually move into Quart jars. That way you can keep the same yeild but create much less work. If you wont allready have a pressure cooker, get one, that is if your serious about this hobby. Also, if you are going to be knocking up 80+ jars you'll defently want to learn to become self-sufficient. Spore printing and making spore syringes is, suprisingly easy, and if you've made it this far you can certanly to this.

Good luck! May your quest bring you happyness.


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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: phrozendata]
    #534822 - 01/29/02 11:39 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

excellent job under!!
your terranium looks great!
you say you are having a prob getting the humidity high enough...remember though once you add several casing to this terranium that is going to boost the humidity also. so if your humidity is already mid to upper 80s then you are fine (rh for casing does not have to be as high as for cakes). if you are still having a prob with the humidity once your casings are in the terranium then you can always add a large pan of perlite under the bottom shelf in the terranium.

can i ask what strain(s) you are currently colonizing?

"afro engineered".....i feel ya!
peace!


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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: Under_net]
    #535642 - 01/30/02 07:06 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

What is the use of these terrariums?
I must say that my shrooms grow very well in just a plastic storage box (transparent) with lid, I just make some holes in the lid, spray some water 5 day's a week, don't measure humidity, temperature and still big shrooms are growing!!
Put more time in making new cakes or casings than modifieng you terraruim!


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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: paddoholland]
    #535926 - 01/30/02 03:02 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I sure appreciate all of the words of encouragement. In all of those 80 jars I have the following 3 strains. All from fanaticus.

Where is a good place to pick up that coco coir this time of year? I would like to try that out on my next casing I setup this weekend.

PF - Matias Romero
Pf hawaiin
Pf-mazatec

They don't list all of the scientific names on their website though
maybe someone else knows.


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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: Under_net]
    #535934 - 01/30/02 03:08 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I would guess I have about $100.00 in that larger terrarium including the digital guage and humidifier, pvc and shelving. which isnt bad considering its potential.
I dont think I could even keep that thing busy really.


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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: paddoholland]
    #535994 - 01/30/02 03:56 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

paddoholland...You're plastic storage box IS a terrarium. Anything you put your cakes or casings in to get them to fruit can be called a terrarium. Some people need big terrariums because they have many jars or casings to fruit.


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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: bassplayer74]
    #536689 - 01/31/02 10:01 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

bass, just FYI paddo is an old timer, he want asking what is a terrerium, but he's just pointing out that the rubbermaid bins work just as well as the fancy setups...paddo i havent seen you post in a long long long time. life is still good withthe 393s. still dont know what they are other than 393s :smile: if you want one let me know via PM.


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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: paddoholland]
    #536828 - 01/31/02 01:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

paddoholland,

Alot of us are looking to make better terrariums....from the old plastic ones.

Some of these newer ones that have shelfs,cool mist humidifiers and fans.
= Less work......more grow space.....less hassle.
After they are set up right....of course.

Don't knock it til you try one.

I'm making mine right now.


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Re: 2 Months into it and this is it. Great pics though [Re: Roadkill]
    #536903 - 01/31/02 02:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

and for some of us it lets us explore that macguyver side to us.
i know what your saying...if it not broke don't fix it, but if people were not constantly trying to improve on a theory or idea then we wouldn't have access to say...computers, internet and the wealth of information here thats allows most people who would NEVER be able to grow their own shrooms with out this site and others like it.
innovation motivates the soul and inspires the mind!


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