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ajna
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i'm also experiencing some trouble breaking through with the old gal. i only have a 5x extract, but one hit of this same extract has turned one guy i know into a pencil case, and another felt himself spinning around the planet by his feet.
i've tried on 3 different occasions, and the only effects i've really noticed have been an uncomfortable body buzz and the feeling like i'm sweating all over.
on my second attempt i remember laying down listening to the music with my eyes closed, and my eyelid kept twitching so i couldn't close my eyes properly. i could sense some patterns in the CEV field, but couldn't keep my eyes closed to focus.
just tried again this morning, this time with a torch lighter. same effects experienced as before, although this time my eye hasn't stopped twitching - it's now 2 hours after the smoke and it's still going. i think sally is playing a game with me...
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EquilibriuM
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Re: salvia sucks! [Re: ajna]
#5342347 - 02/26/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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he doesnt like you...
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agoutihead


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equilibium... you talking to me?
i dunno i think i either have a high tolerance or this was crappy stuff.
i did sweat a decent amount i remember that.
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stemmer
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There are certain aspects of the salvia trip that will kick you ass if you didnt feel it the 5th time +.........
No reason to name them all.
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Re: salvia sucks! [Re: stemmer]
#5342623 - 02/26/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer what do you mean the 5th time?
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stemmer
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its a number I just threw out there. I just think you should be interested if youve had a pile of the substance before you and smoked it. You shouldnt need anyone on this site to tell you that it works VERY well for mostly everybody in one way or another. If it doesnt interest you after say, the 3rd or 4th time, then just quit trying to find interest in it. It will never be like acid or shrooms. I hope you dont expect that. It is what you would call an atypical psychedelic. VERY intense, very visual, but very seperate from the rest. So, if you dont find interest or cant see the visuals, the drug doesnt like you(kidding). Its just not for you.
Its a drug that I beleive is so strange that it can mess with your head more than most psychedelics. There is no reason to do that to yourself if you get nothing out of it.
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Re: salvia sucks! [Re: stemmer]
#5342758 - 02/26/06 08:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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well this was only the first time... so im not outta the game yet. i will give it several more attempts... like i said i did feel very weird... just no breakthrough... so i guess it is normal.
next time i will get a stronger extract from a different supplier, and make sure i have a torch lighter... might as well retrace my steps and make changes where i can.
every other psychedelic has loved me, and i have loved it. i see no reason for this drug not to want me.
conclusion: do not give up.
-------------------- "When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert "Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye." "Experience the liquid realm..." "The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann
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Ekstaza
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Re: salvia sucks! [Re: stemmer]
#5342789 - 02/26/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer said: ........ If it doesnt interest you after say, the 3rd or 4th time, then just quit trying to find interest in it............ So, if you dont find interest or cant see the visuals, the drug doesnt like you(kidding). Its just not for you.
Do you really think that if something doesn't work the first few time for a person, that they should give up hope of it ever working? That or do you believe that one should lose interest after a few tries?
If Thomas Edison had of thought this way we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
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agoutihead


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Re: salvia sucks! [Re: Ekstaza]
#5342810 - 02/26/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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you go boyyyyyy!
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stemmer
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You cant breakthrough unless youre using the doors reference or the definition of breakthrough used so often on this site(which is a joke).
Dude just feel the perceptual changes, and Wait a week or so before you use it again. It should blow your mind. If it doesnt, then I dont know why.
Id recommend 3 fat hits out of a small bong or even a pipe with a normal lighter. There should be no unecessary qualifiers here. You really only need a pipe, a good working bic lighter, and the ability to take massive hits that you can hold in for atleast 30 sec.
I didnt mean to say you will never feel it. I just think you need to look at it as an entirely different drug. It will get to you in one way or another. Once you get there you might even become quite scared.
Ekstaza, you must have missed the part about me joking around. Really though, everyone should feel it. No one has any reason to beleive that they cant. That just doesnt fly when talking about such a potent substance.
Edited by stemmer (02/26/06 08:38 PM)
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Ekstaza
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Re: salvia sucks! [Re: stemmer]
#5342953 - 02/26/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh, I thought the just kidding was just for the part about the drug not liking him.
-------------------- YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH ANY GIVEN DRUG ISN'T THE DEFINITIVE MEASURE OF THE DRUGS EFFECTS.
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duggan18
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Re: salvia sucks! [Re: Ekstaza]
#5342963 - 02/26/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i tripped my first time off of 5x. it was a weird 2-3minute long trip.
im sure this has been said a billion times in here, but use a water bong and take as many huge hits as u can. i never get past the first
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agoutihead


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Re: salvia sucks! [Re: Ekstaza]
#5342965 - 02/26/06 08:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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by the way i had standardized 10x.... so it should have been ok.
i have found 1 gram of non-standardized 20x for 19.00 at bouncing bear i think
i have also found 1 gram of standardized 20x for 31.98 at iamshaman.com
clearly there is a HUGE price difference.... im leaning more towards the non-standardized now only because its getting pricey.
what do you guys think?
does anyone have any other places to buy higher extracts?
-------------------- "When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert "Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye." "Experience the liquid realm..." "The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann
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EquilibriuM
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agoutihead said: equilibium... you talking to me?
i dunno i think i either have a high tolerance or this was crappy stuff.
i did sweat a decent amount i remember that.
No, I was talking to ajna.
With you I would give it more time... A couple more chances... I think you'll get it
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Edited by EquilibriuM (02/26/06 09:04 PM)
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agoutihead


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cool equil.. thanks!
also duggan i smoked a whole gram of standardized 10x from a water bong... trust me i got a couple of good hits in. heh.
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Koala Koolio
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You never know if it's really standardized unless you standardize it yourself.
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ajna
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Quote:
EquilibriuM said:
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agoutihead said: equilibium... you talking to me?
i dunno i think i either have a high tolerance or this was crappy stuff.
i did sweat a decent amount i remember that.
No, I was talking to ajna.
With you I would give it more time... A couple more chances... I think you'll get it
in that case...
maybe she does like me, but also likes to play hard to get. the thrill of the chase can be half the fun
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stemmer
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Re: salvia sucks! [Re: ajna]
#5343224 - 02/26/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ya thats what I was kidding about for the most part Ekstaza.
He will "break through" if he wants. Or he can learn to appreciat the effects of the drug without going almost blind for 4 min. Thats all I was saying. And ya, if Salvia D had the capability to like people, it aint him. I wouldnt worry about that Ekstaza, nore would I worry about it if I was him. He will find interest in it one day.
Edited by stemmer (02/26/06 09:55 PM)
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OmahaStylee
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Re: salvia sucks! [Re: stemmer]
#5344079 - 02/27/06 02:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've tried salvia too and had no results
Was disappointed :/
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inv3rse
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same thing happened the first time I tried it....
Oh man, the second time was a different story and a kick in my ass...lol
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