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Powdering = less visuals possibley?
    #5340875 - 02/26/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe some one on here with more knowlege of how psilocyben or whatever works or somebody can help me on this one. I tripped about two weeks ago after powdering up 4 8ths of mushies with 3 other friends. We each took an 8th of powdered shrooms. Non of us saw visuals really, but we felt good and all the other stuff that you feel when you do this kind of a dose of shrooms. No visuals though. I had tripped on these same shrooms previously and ate them straight without powdering them and I had pretty intense visuals. This time it was on less than an 8th, about 2.8 or something. I sold some shrooms to some friends, and they requested me to powder them up for them. They each took an 8th of powdered shrooms and didn't have visuals, but again, felt everything you should while on shrooms. They were dissappointed though about not having visuals. I sold an 8th to some other friends though, and they split the 8th amoungst two people and they had a fairly nice trip, with visuals. They ate them straight, not powdered. Maybe it's just coencidence but it seems to me everytime we powder these shrooms you don't get the visuals that you do when you eat them straight. Is this even possible? I don't really see how powdering vs. just eating them whole would make a difference between having alot of visuals an


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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: Fruitboot]
    #5341028 - 02/26/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Same thing happened to me. My first trip I had 1/2 an eighth on a slice of pizza and the visuals were very intense. Then for my second trip I ate nearly a whole 1/8th crushed up and the only visuals I seen were my hands and walls breathing, nothing like my first trip.


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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: Fruitboot]
    #5341100 - 02/26/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

could also depend on how you prepared them..... boiled ? mixed in juice ? cooked ?.......and the visual thing may or may not happen, that can be down to the setting, your mind set, what you expect from the trip, the time since you last tripped and the the amount of Ps. per gram that strain of shrooms contains on average.
Not to mention that shrooms are not always predictable.

I find p.semilanceata on a low simmer in water for around 20 mins is just right.


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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: PlatformStrange]
    #5341167 - 02/26/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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PlatformStrange said:
could also depend on how you prepared them..... boiled ? mixed in juice ? cooked ?.......and the visual thing may or may not happen, that can be down to the setting, your mind set, what you expect from the trip, the time since you last tripped and the the amount of Ps. per gram that strain of shrooms contains on average.
Not to mention that shrooms are not always predictable.




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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: Kerr]
    #5346082 - 02/27/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

powdering does decrease the effiency of mushrooms... that's why you should CHOP them, do not grind

got me one of these for $10 at Jewel Osco. It's like a food chopper... works great!




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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5346255 - 02/27/06 05:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I took 3.6 of cubes all the extremely small shake (the smallest parts of atleast 10pounds worth of shroomies) I had them capped up in vegetable caps, I barely felt ANYTHING let alone got any visuals... I was upset :\


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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5347230 - 02/27/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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powdering does decrease the effiency of mushrooms... that's why you should CHOP them, do not grind

I hope your talking about making tea with powder?

Because if you eat powdered mushrooms, you will notice the effects are stronger than chewing them or making tea.

If you want great visuals, eat a 1/4 of powdered mushrooms. That is the dose that I live by, but I don't always eat it powdered because it can take an iron stomach sometimes to keep them down, the lemon tea method is a great easy way though as well.

but with tea definetly chop like the dude above me said, if you powder it and your tea is too hot you can kill lots of psliocybe.


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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: NSUCK]
    #5347258 - 02/27/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

there's a chance you were eating a lot of spores. the shake from 10#s i would imagine would be a good % spores.

oatman- why do you think freshly powdered shrooms would be any less efficient than chopped?


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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: spock]
    #5348171 - 02/28/06 02:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I always powder my shrooms immediately they are dry - I then put them in a tightly sealed jar with foil over the top held on by a double wrapped elastic band. It's the best way to keep them fresh for a long long time.

I make a cup of lemon & ginger tea let it stand for 7 minutes, then take the bag out, stir in 4-5g of powder, let that stand for 15 minutes while I meditate then down the tea.

I always get very intense visuals, whether it be from Dutch King, Nepalese Chitwans, Koh Samui or Ecuador shroom powder.

There's nothing wrong with powdering, issues of potency more often than not are regarding how (& how long) they've been stored & the environment they've been stored in.


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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: Fruitboot]
    #5348217 - 02/28/06 03:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Whether or not the shrooms are powdered has no effect on the visuals specifically.  The only thing you're doing when you powder the shrooms is to increase the surface area.  Technically, shroom-powder would degrade faster than regular shrooms if they were both left sitting out for a long period of time, because the shroom-powder would be exposed to more air and moisture than regular shrooms.  But if they're in a sealed container, this is basically non-issue.

When I think about what has the most impact on visuals, I think about the setting (sensory input), and your state of mind.  And about a thousand other things, like who you are, what you are doing, what your experiences with psychedelics are, what your expectations are, if you are alone, if it is daytime, if it is nightime, if there's something on your mind, if you're on any other drugs or if you've taken any other drugs recently, etc, etc...

I have a degree of control over my hallucinations through sheer force of will.  I don't think that's totally uncommon for people who are very experienced with hallucinogens.  If I want to, I can make myself hallucinate more intensely or less intensely.
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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5349782 - 02/28/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

We powdered them up and ate them right afterwards. Mixed it with hot chocolate, but made sure it wasn't too hot as to destroy the active chems in the shrooms. I kind had high hopes for the trip, maybe that had something to do with it.


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Re: Powdering = less visuals possibley? [Re: Fruitboot]
    #5350215 - 02/28/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I kind had high hopes for the trip, maybe that had something to do with it.




Yeah, that would do it...

The most visually intense low-dose trip (under 4g's) was on under a gram dried and powdered... powdering does not affect visuals, if anything it makes them more intense because of the increased surface area (faster chemical absorbtion, more active chemicals in your body at a given time) But for the most part set, setting, etc...


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