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i8an8th
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Just never get good potency..
#5340379 - 02/26/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well I remember when I used to buy shrooms from people that where deff cubes I would eat about 3 grams and trip my balls off.. Well I have been experimenting with growing for a while now and when when ever I eat them I just never trip like I did off the cubes I bought.. I grow with WBS and then spawn to 50/50 tenn/stud and case with coco/verm casing layer.. this is about by seventh grow..
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i8an8th
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5342117 - 02/26/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5342147 - 02/26/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Has this all been from a single strain/substrain? Meaning like did you buy one syringe, then base all subsequent grows from prints resultant from that first syringe? Perhaps that was a weak substrain. Or perhaps, for some reason or another, your body has changed and has something of a tolerance. Perhaps you should give some pan cyans a try.
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Yeah my first 3 grows were shitty. Grew off BRF and the potency was HORRIBLE. They looked so dank and delicious growing but you had to eat like 7 cracker dried grams just to get visuals. VERY disappointing I know how it feels.
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i8an8th
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: Atheist]
#5343151 - 02/26/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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No its from a few different strains.. Its not just me its other people also.. its pretty irritating..
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5343189 - 02/26/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dont get how that happens, I mean my WBS to coco coir made some insanely potent shrooms. 2.5g had me thinking I was in the movie Fear and Loathing, lights dimming and zooming noises past my ears.
anyone elaborate on this?
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i8an8th
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: nuk1m]
#5343203 - 02/26/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Another problem could be is that I didn't buy the spores from a vendor...
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i8an8th
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5343280 - 02/26/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Would it matter that much?
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5343333 - 02/26/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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the spores just might be a shity strain.How do you know they are the strain labled if you didnt get them from a vendor. There is a store here in seattle that sells sproes and I think they miss/re-lable them some times. I would try Purto rico strain from a vendor.
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5343335 - 02/26/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I couldn't see how that would effect potency. Maybe the sterility of the prints/syringes, but I'm assuming your substrates colonized without contamination, so apparently that wasn't a problem.
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: onetime]
#5343339 - 02/26/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I used PR and Z-strain from a ebay vendor.. oops.. but just order sum PE from a vendor off shroomery..
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5343425 - 02/26/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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what kind of pinsets do you normally get?
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: nuk1m]
#5343648 - 02/26/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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have you considered doing agar work?
-------------------- To get really high is to forget yourself. And to forget yourself is to see everything else. And to see everything else is to become an understanding molecule in evolution, a conscious tool of the universe. And I think every human being should be a conscious tool of the universe. . . . -JG i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug* -A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)
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i8an8th
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: coda]
#5344449 - 02/27/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I bought a agar kit.. and when ever I use it nothing seems to grow on it.. I know i'm doing everything right..
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5344472 - 02/27/06 08:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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well my friend maybe you should look into the addition of blood meal into you substrates.
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: thenewguy05]
#5344501 - 02/27/06 08:30 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I really don't wana mess with that smelly stuff.. I just dont understand why am not getting potent poo mushies...
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5344528 - 02/27/06 08:44 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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what smelly stuff?
blood meal???!!!??? blood meal doesn't have a smell so i KNOW your not talking about blood meal.
POO??? poo smells but your already playing with that.
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: thenewguy05]
#5344544 - 02/27/06 08:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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When do u harvest?....(I know some people are going to say it doesnt matter) But it seems to "Me" that closed cap cubes are always more potent then over mature ones...
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: thenewguy05]
#5344576 - 02/27/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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thenewguy05 said: what smelly stuff?
blood meal???!!!??? blood meal doesn't have a smell so i KNOW your not talking about blood meal.
We must be getting different blood meal then, because mine has about the worst possible smell and I'm sure MANY people will back that up. Maybe dry it doesn't smell, but once it's wet... 
Try some stevia leaf instead, although if you aren't noticing good potency off of h/poo grown shrooms, I think something else is wrong. Maybe you trip too much?
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: mskip23]
#5344578 - 02/27/06 09:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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mskip23 said: When do u harvest?....(I know some people are going to say it doesnt matter) But it seems to "Me" that closed cap cubes are always more potent then over mature ones...
It doesn't matter
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: FooMan]
#5344892 - 02/27/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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what are your spawn ratios like man?
-------------------- To get really high is to forget yourself. And to forget yourself is to see everything else. And to see everything else is to become an understanding molecule in evolution, a conscious tool of the universe. And I think every human being should be a conscious tool of the universe. . . . -JG i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug* -A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: coda]
#5344944 - 02/27/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe he is haunted by the "no~high" God?
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: agar]
#5344952 - 02/27/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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agar said: Maybe he is haunted by the "no~high" God?
Could be. Maybe his stomach acids are just tearing the psilocybin apart. Maybe time to start dosing rectally?
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: FooMan]
#5345134 - 02/27/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Could be. Maybe his stomach acids are just tearing the psilocybin apart. Maybe time to start dosing rectally?
Well then good news! It's a sepository..
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i8an8th
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: FooMan]
#5346213 - 02/27/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said:
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thenewguy05 said: what smelly stuff?
blood meal???!!!??? blood meal doesn't have a smell so i KNOW your not talking about blood meal.
We must be getting different blood meal then, because mine has about the worst possible smell and I'm sure MANY people will back that up. Maybe dry it doesn't smell, but once it's wet... 
Try some stevia leaf instead, although if you aren't noticing good potency off of h/poo grown shrooms, I think something else is wrong. Maybe you trip too much?
Well i'll read a lil about the stevia leaf.. I very rarely trip.. these things just dont have the kick... I spawn about 3 qt jars to 5lbs of 50/50 tenn stud.. I'm just wondering if maybe i have a bad sub strain due to the fact that I bought the syringes from a guy of ebay...
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i8an8th
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5346230 - 02/27/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whats the best way for useing the stevia leaf?
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i8an8th
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5346638 - 02/27/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anybody?
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5347165 - 02/27/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry bro! I was out for awhile. I believe you add about 5% stevia leaf to the h/poo during spawning. PM Agar for a definite answer. I've just started using it and I put a handful into my poo before pasturizing. I can tell you one thing, it doesn't smell at all like the blood meal does!
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: FooMan]
#5347277 - 02/27/06 09:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Be careful with stevia. To much will cause harm. I use the ground up dried plant @ about 2% rate.
Straight leaves, have a much higher stevia concentration.
Only additives I put in good dry h/poo is stevia & some kelp meal.
But, NOT heavy concentrations.
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: agar]
#5347643 - 02/27/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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what is the temp???
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: b0ngman]
#5347714 - 02/27/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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b0ngman said: what is the temp???
Of WHAT? 
Here, It's about 34F outside & 72F inside (at the moment)
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: agar]
#5347716 - 02/27/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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its possible your high spawn to poo ratio could be throwing some things off.
-------------------- To get really high is to forget yourself. And to forget yourself is to see everything else. And to see everything else is to become an understanding molecule in evolution, a conscious tool of the universe. And I think every human being should be a conscious tool of the universe. . . . -JG i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug* -A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)
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i8an8th
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: coda]
#5348636 - 02/28/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is it Sativa leaf or sativa extract i'm supposed to use?..Thanks for all your input.. I'll try some diffrent teks and through em in the grow log..
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5348671 - 02/28/06 09:19 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Smoke the Sativa! 
What you want is STEVIA
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: FooMan]
#5348679 - 02/28/06 09:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said: Smoke the Sativa! 
What you want is STEVIA
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Re: Just never get good potency.. [Re: i8an8th]
#5348849 - 02/28/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I bought a agar kit.. and when ever I use it nothing seems to grow on it.. I know I'm doing everything right..
I had trouble with agar when I first started. Had me frustrated to no end. But once it worked, it took off. I haven't had problems since.
The key is sterile conditions and a glove box or flow hood. It began to work after I got an All American Pressure Cooker. There might be a connection there.
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