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Quinoa Mix
    #5339387 - 02/25/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

My next substrate experiment is going to be a combo of wheat straw, manure, and quinoa. If anyone has any suggestions on ratio or preparation I would like the input.


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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: defcheck]
    #5339396 - 02/25/06 09:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5339418 - 02/25/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Why do you criticize me for experimenting. Why dont you explain yourself instead of just saying I dont think so and giving me a link to a bunch of nothing. You probably would have said I dont think so when they used Rattle Snake Venom to make a hybrid Codyceps sinensis. Anything is possible why not try. Failure is the price you pay to learn a new lesson.


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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: defcheck]
    #5339436 - 02/25/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The quinoa will make the sub more contam prone. If you're going to pasteurize, you might want to soak the quinoa, and/or sterilize it first. That still wouldn't be a gaurantee.

I've tried pasturizing a mix similar to yours, and it resulted in contamination. Even using grain flour, which would pasteurize properly, greatly elevates the risk.

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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: defcheck]
    #5339441 - 02/25/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

naw man I didnt criticize your experiment, buy that link did mention quinoa.

Quinoa is the problem, it is to hot for the mycelium.  :wink:



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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: defcheck]
    #5339446 - 02/25/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Go for it bud.

Try this:

300 ml manure/straw mix(1 c. 4 T)

100 ml quinoa (6.7 T.)

100 ml verm (6.7 T.)

That ought to get you a quart jar. It'll be shakeable too.

I used this formula on my Pan. cyan jar. It would have kicked ass if I didn't kill it by shaking it. =[


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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: Rahz]
    #5339452 - 02/25/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Very possible.

Try it out by sterilizing in big autoclave bags for 3 hours and innoculating with LC. I read a tek just the other day about mixing grains/poo this way, might wanna search for it. I remember it saying not to soak/simmer the grain prior to PC'ing.

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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: Hoss]
    #5339459 - 02/25/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Oop, I wasn't sure if he was colonizing in a sterile environment. Should work fine in jars.

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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: Rahz]
    #5339488 - 02/25/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I actually got a very nice setup with 36 inch flow hood, working with spawn bags and impulse sealer. I also checked that link again and found nothing about Quinoa.


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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: defcheck]
    #5339494 - 02/25/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

number 3, and you can check out the bottom of the page under related threads but I was not dissing you  :grin:


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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: defcheck]
    #5339513 - 02/25/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

>>>>I actually got a very nice setup with 36 inch flow hood, working with spawn bags and impulse sealer.

Well, looks like you're set. I'm using a quinoa mix in Mex-A jars, and the mycelium seems to like it pretty good. As far as that goes, I'd think most grains would have way more nutes than a bulk sub. If you can keep it sterile, go for it. I reciently started a few jars that have no less than 10 different types of grain. Growth is fast to say the least.

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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5339526 - 02/25/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Bat guano and Quinoa is not the same thing.

3. Q, "is bat guano in substrate - good?"
(NO)

This is the one you was reffering too right Snaggletooth


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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: defcheck]
    #5339550 - 02/25/06 10:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

ahahahah



Ok I messed up I don't know how to spel...lol duh *sets down the pipe*


Never mind your good to go..... :crazy2:  :thumbup:


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Re: Quinoa Mix [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5339574 - 02/25/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Always a pipe in there somewhere :tongue:

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