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wuotan
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Introducing mushrooms into the wild
#5339197 - 02/25/06 08:41 PM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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The ideal scenario for any shroomer is to be able to take a walk outside of your house to pick mushooms. No driving anywhere and with no risks of trespassing.
On the property where I live there is a pasture with several horses and another pasture filled with cows. I would like to find a way to introduce p. cubensis. Ideally, I would like to do this in multiple pastures around the area.
How would one go about this attempt?
I figure I have a couple of possibly viable options: 1) Make an outdoor bed upwind of the pasture, 2) Make a couple of fully colonized Hpoo casings and drop them on the ground in several places, 3) Crumble fully colonized cakes onto the poo and try to mix it up a bit, 4) Just go around squirting syringes into the centers of poo piles
I live in a very humid valley in hawaii, there is a bit of rain but C. cyanescens thrive naturally. The temperature exteremes are 65-85 (usually 70-80).
anyone have any criticism?
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liloldme
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: wuotan]
#5339232 - 02/25/06 08:51 PM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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I have often thought of this myself, Personally, the best thing that I can think of is to make Lc's and put them in those fertilizer spreading things that you screw onto a hose, either that or drop a spore print in the same device, I'm sure a print in that would last a few minutes worth of spraying, and spread millions and millions of spores....
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defcheck
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: liloldme]
#5339244 - 02/25/06 08:55 PM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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Feed mushrooms to the cows. Most spores should survive the digestion and they should shit out spore laden poo for weeks
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Premedman1
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: wuotan]
#5339261 - 02/25/06 08:59 PM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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-----> Moe's Outdoor Growing Tek <-----
A really simple outdoor tek. Could use a little tweaking, but it'll give you a good start.
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wuotan
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: defcheck]
#5361903 - 03/03/06 03:06 PM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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are mushrooms also propogated that way in the wild? I've seen or heard of cows/horses eaing mushrooms, but i guess if spores can survive extreme desication, high wavelength light, a huge range of temperatures they should survive going through a cow.
Thanks for putting that on the table defcheck
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campinman
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: wuotan]
#5362321 - 03/03/06 05:14 PM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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isnt feeding magic to cows a form of cruelty to animals? i guess not as long as its a small dose/big cow
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Delinquentes
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: campinman]
#5362511 - 03/03/06 06:13 PM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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I hope PETA doesn't read this
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Xanthas
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: Delinquentes]
#5362529 - 03/03/06 06:22 PM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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Anyone else think it would be hilarious to watch a tripping cow? (from a safe distance, of course)
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MindsEye
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: Delinquentes]
#5362536 - 03/03/06 06:25 PM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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feed the cows some colonized grain or straw...
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Delinquentes
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: Xanthas]
#5362555 - 03/03/06 06:33 PM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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Quote:
Xanthas said: Anyone else think it would be hilarious to watch a tripping cow? (from a safe distance, of course)
BWAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!
Nice thought man!
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figment
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: Delinquentes]
#5362947 - 03/03/06 08:55 PM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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Cows eat all sorts of spores naturally. Millions each day just as we do. The only difference is, is that they don't have stomach acid and therefore do not kill the spores. A person is just lucky to find cubensis and not another shroom...if any at all. But anyways, that's how it gets started in the wild.
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Chrissss
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: figment]
#5363359 - 03/03/06 10:58 PM (18 years, 19 days ago) |
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scrape a print off into some peanut butter and feed it to cows
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X24
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: Chrissss]
#5363683 - 03/04/06 02:52 AM (18 years, 19 days ago) |
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hawksapprentice
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: X24]
#5363707 - 03/04/06 03:30 AM (18 years, 19 days ago) |
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I'd like more input on this topic from some experienced growers on the board, i.e. agar, roadkill, holy. I recall thread on the same topic with alot of controversy, and am unaware of any consensus.
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campinman
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Quote:
hawksapprentice said: I'd like more input on this topic from some experienced growers on the board, i.e. agar, roadkill, holy. I recall thread on the same topic with alot of controversy, and am unaware of any consensus.
ME TOO!
id love to be able to propagate some wild cubes up here,. Not sure if this is from a sponsor, but i was thinking about getting that Oh Canada strain from SporeLab
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Edited by campinman (03/04/06 10:12 AM)
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Delinquentes
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: campinman]
#5364103 - 03/04/06 10:13 AM (18 years, 19 days ago) |
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Dude, I can't get the thought of trippin' bovines out of my head...
Still LMFAO
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wuotan
tenderfoot
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: Delinquentes]
#5371349 - 03/06/06 03:51 PM (18 years, 17 days ago) |
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Will cubes grow on cow manure and horse manure, or just horse?
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gotyerback
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: wuotan]
#5372133 - 03/06/06 07:54 PM (18 years, 17 days ago) |
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Cubes generally grow on cow manure. You will find other mushrooms on horse, but the wild cubes are almost always on cow.
If it were me..........I would figure out what hunting or fishing season is going on in Hawaii. Go get a license and equipment. I actually like to hunt so I would really do it, but it makes for an excellent cover. Cops don't fuck with hunters too much.
Get some spawn going. I would take jars and transfer to myco bags. A few loaded myco bags will do a lot. Get out there with a rake and rake up the manure. Squeeze the myco bag until all the individual grains are seperated. Drop a cup of that spawn into individual patties. Try to pick ones that are under trees. Rake it in a little. It will probably work incredibly well or not at all. You could hedge a little and spread your seeding through a few weeks.
Cubes should grow well on horse, provided you broke those nuggets up and it has moisture.
I wouldn't mess with feeding it to cows. Besides it probably not working, those animals are someone's livelihood. Would you like someone fucking with how you make a living?
I wrote a post about this farmer I talked to. He told me his cows chase down shrooms to eat them. Then they got all crazy with their tonges hanging out and their eyes rolling. God that was a funny conversation.
There is also a question of introducing a non-native species to an ecosystem. Imagine cubes running rampant through Hawaii? Hmmm, maybe that wouldn't be so bad.
What I wouldn't give to be able to go planting shrooms in Hawaii. Need any help?
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Nashbar
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: figment]
#5372195 - 03/06/06 08:15 PM (18 years, 17 days ago) |
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Quote:
ffigmentte said: Cows eat all sorts of spores naturally. Millions each day just as we do. The only difference is, is that they don't have stomach acid and therefore do not kill the spores. A person is just lucky to find cubensis and not another shroom...if any at all. But anyways, that's how it gets started in the wild.
spores don't go through the digestive system and then germinate out the other side.
Spores are dropped or float through the air, land on a substrate and then germinate and grow.
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liloldme
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Re: Introducing mushrooms into the wild [Re: Nashbar]
#5372369 - 03/06/06 09:04 PM (18 years, 17 days ago) |
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I have heard of spores colonizing inside of a cow, I guess It might be like a incubator.
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