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Common newbie Q & A
    #5338692 - 02/25/06 06:11 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

Why don't we as a community try to figure out a list of the most common newbie questions.(with obvious short correct answers.)

Then, make a list of the top 20, 30, 50, or how-ever-many (+/-).

Along with straight forward short simple answers.

Then, compile those Q & A's into a single Common Q & A list.
(possibly categorized)

Then, post that as a sticky here, or in the FAQ.

Which, would at least give others a place to refer those general newbie questions to.
Rather than answering them at length, over & over again, year in & year out.

I will try to get the ball rolling, BY THE NUMBERS.

For instance:

1. Q, "does VERMICULITE, contains ASBESTOS?".
(NO).

2. Q, "which strain of P. Cubensis is best?"
(all a matter of opinion)

3. Q, "is bat guano in substrate - good?"
(NO)

4. Q, "Do I need a PC, for grains?"
(only alternative is fractional sterilization)

5. Q, "which vendor is best?"
(all a matter of opinion)

6. Q, "Can I just microwave grains?"
(you can, but it seldom, if ever works)

7. Q, "which casing mixture is best?"
(all a matter of experience & preference)

8. Q, "can I substitute Perlite for Verm in the PF tek?"
(no, at least not effectively)

9. Q, "what will 3 cakes yield?"
(nothing, some, a lot, it all depends)

10. Q, "which Vendor here, will ship spores to CA, GA, ID?"
(none)


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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: agar]
    #5338715 - 02/25/06 06:18 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

This is a good idea agar.

Q, " Does a food dehydrator cause potency loss?"
(No. Anything under 400 ?F does not cause potency loss.)

Q, " Why are my PF jars stalled? I am not seeing any growth"
(It could be a bunch of things. Most commonly, your substrate is either too dry or too wet. Your substrate should be pretty moist, but not saturated. Another common error is leaving the tape over the holes in your lid while your jars are in the incubator. You need to allow for CO2 produced by the growing mycelium to escape the jar. The tape blocks the air from going in/out. If you are following the PF Tek, the vermiculite layer on top of your substrate should be an effective filter against contamination.)

Edited by Blek (02/25/06 06:27 PM)

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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: Blek]
    #5338817 - 02/25/06 06:52 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

great idea IMO


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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5339280 - 02/25/06 09:05 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

13.) Will human/animal poo/feces/hair/other nasty shit work as substrate?
"nope"

14.)What is better cow or horse poo?
"horse, cows have 4 stomach's and therefore digest more of the nutrients"

15.)What temps should my FC/TiT be set at?
"74-76 is optimal for fruiting 84-86 optimal for incubation"

16.)How long does it take to grow?
"Start to finish on average about 25-30 days"

17.) Help, whats this purple/black shit on my caps?
"spore deposits from your mushrooms"

18.)Do i need to use a pressure cooker?
"No, you can boil jars with the PF tek, higher rate of contams using this method however"

19.)How many CC's should i use per jar
"In a standard PF jar .25 CC's per innoc hole.  In a quart grain jar 1-2 cc's"

20.)Why are my mushrooms so small?
"thin substrate layers, poor genetics, lack of nutrients, or a heavy pinset can cause your mushrooms to grow small"

21.)When should i harvest my mushrooms?
"For asthetic purposes people like to pick before, or right after, the veil tears.  For printing purposes its best to let the cap flatten out.  It doesnt matter when you harvest your mushrooms as long as you pick them before they rot"

22.)Some mushrooms are growing faster then others, what should i do?
"Take a scissor and cut the caps off the fast guys, this will allow the smaller ones to mature without the big ones spewing spores over your grow."

23.)Whats dunking and rolling?
"this is technique to rehydrate your cakes and provide adequate moisture through fruiting.  Simply submerge a cake for 24 hrs under water then roll in dry verm."

24.)How long will my syringes/prints last?
"stored in a cool dry place spores will keep for years"

25.)How long will PC'ed jars keep?
"A properly sterlized jar will remain clean for months"

26.)help its been 3 hrs since i inooculated, why is there no growth?
"It takes up to 4 days to see signs of germination, then another 2 weeks til full colonization.  Patience is key"

27.)Whats this white fuzzy stuff at the base of my stem?
"Mycellium from being in a high RH environment"

28.)How do i create a more even, stronger, pinset?
A pinning strategy

29.)Are growkits worth it?
"Almost always no, you can build your own setup for much cheaper"

30.)Can i obtain spores from dried mushrooms?
"Not really, you're much better off buying your own"

31.)My hygrometer never gets higher then X%, why?
"Most hygromters are garbage, most likely so is yours.  If using perlite when properly hydrated you will acheive 90+% humidity"

thats all i can think of right now, im sure ill come back with a bunch more heheh :wink: :laugh:


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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: coda]
    #5339324 - 02/25/06 09:19 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

After the top 25-30-50 (however many) questions with solid answers are picked what do you think should be done with that list? Make it an official FAQ contribution? Sticky? I think the best thing that could be done is have it part of the registration process.

Agar and coda seem to get most of them. The only other I can think of is.

Q-Can Perlite be substituted for vermiculite (vise versa)?
A- NO, each have unique properties and have separate uses for mushroom cultivation.

Q- What's polyfil and where can I find it?
A- It is also called Polyester fiber filling. It is made from polyester it is a synthetic stuffing used in pillows and stuffed animals.

Q- What is Tyvek and where can I find it?
A- Tyvek is made from very fine, high-density polyethylene fibers, Tyvek is strong; vapor-permeable, yet water-, chemical-, puncture-, tear- and abrasion-resistant. FedEx priority envelopes are made from tyvek and can be found at postal outlets or FedEx drop off boxes for free.



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Edited by musher_420 (02/25/06 09:27 PM)

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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: agar]
    #5339348 - 02/25/06 09:28 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

agar said:
Q, "can I substitute Perlite for Verm in the PF tek?"
(no, at least not effectively)






ahh.. good call with tyvek and polyfil. Took me forever to figure out what/where those were when I first started.

Edited by Blek (02/25/06 09:29 PM)

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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: Blek]
    #5339352 - 02/25/06 09:30 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

Damn, I read that twice too. Perhaps tomorrow I will make an appointment with an optometrist. lol


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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: musher_420]
    #5339416 - 02/25/06 09:53 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

Excellent idea :laugh:

Q: How much light should they get?
A: Light only tells the mycelium it's at the surface. Mushrooms can grow with a 24/7 light source, or several minutes a day. Ideally, you want them give them somewhere in between.

(Not sure what the most common preference is, the answer could be tweaked)

Q: what type of light source should I use?
A: Just about any light source can be used, though lights in the red spectrum should be avoided. Soft daylight filtered through blinds is sufficient.

Q: Why are my cakes turning blue?
A: This is bruising, and is common after the first flush.

Q: What does pasteurization mean?
A: Pasteurization is a low temperature sterilization that takes place between 140 and 180 degrees.

Q: What does WBS, TiT, BRF, FC (mental block, add other acronyms) mean?
A: Wild Bird Seed, Tub in Tub, Brown Rice Flour, Fruiting Chamber, etc.

Going along with the acronyms, an index of terms might be a good idea: hyphal knot, primordia, veil, rhizomorph, stipe, etc. You could get really crazy and add more common terms such as: vermiculite, perlite, polyfil, tyvek, coir, sphagnum peat, reed sedge peat, oyster shell, calcium carbonate, magnesium, nitrogen, straw, hpoo, in-vitro, casing layer, substrate, bulk, etc.

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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: Rahz]
    #5339785 - 02/25/06 11:26 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

"Q: How much light should they get?
A: Light only tells the mycelium it's at the surface. Mushrooms can grow with a 24/7 light source, or several minutes a day. Ideally, you want them give them somewhere in between."
I must add during pinning 12-16hrs. of light is optimum for maximum pin count.

"Q: Why are my cakes turning blue?
A: This is bruising, and is common after the first flush."
Also cakes often turn blue from lack of moisture.


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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: hyphae]
    #5339802 - 02/25/06 11:40 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

Q: How thick should my substract be?
A: Most people do between 3-5 inches thick.

Q: How thick should my casing Layer be?
A: The casing layer should be 1/4 the size of the substract.

Q: Can I use rollaids or tums in place of calcium Carbonate?
A: No, because most anti-acid tablets contain sugar which opens you up to contams.

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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: liloldme]
    #5339892 - 02/26/06 12:46 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

Substrate* :grin:

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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: Blek]
    #5339944 - 02/26/06 01:10 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

opps....

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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: liloldme]
    #5340072 - 02/26/06 02:40 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

lol. gr8 idea folks, a lot of questions answered :smile:

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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: FractalXplora]
    #5340129 - 02/26/06 03:16 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

2 a. Q, "but seriously, which strain of P. Cubensis is best for beginners?"
(all a matter of opinion)

2 b. Q, "OK. Which strain do you think is best?"
(the best one for me)

Q. Does dung stink when you pasteurize it?
A. Most people find that it smells earthy. It's something to do in your home or well-ventilated apartment.

Q. Why don't you sterilize dung?
A. Most people don't sterilize it to keep the helpful bacteria alive. If you sterilize it you kill these off and the dung will be more suceptible to contaminations.

Q. Do black lights help cakes and casings pin?
A. Black lights cause mutations.

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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5340239 - 02/26/06 07:02 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

Q. is Miracle-Grow (or any chemical garden fertilizer) a good thing to add to a cake or bulk substrate?
A. No, it will throw off the balance of existing organic nutrients.

Q.Which is a better sanitizing agent, 70% or 90% alcohol?
A. 70% alc is more effective, it evaporates slower.

Q.What is an optimal spawn to substrate ratio?
A.20% spawn to 80% substrate. (even more - is better).

Q. What is the best syringe needle bore & length?
A. 18 gauge 1.5 inch is standard.

Q. Is a clear "spore" syringe bunko?
A. If it is an Shroomery "Vendor" spore syringe, it's good.

Q. What is the best USA brand pressure cooker?
A. All American is Top of the Line (expensive).

Q. What size pressure cooker is best?
A. One that will hold quart jars, the bigger the better.


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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5340265 - 02/26/06 07:32 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

Good job people.
This is sure to help filter our board a bit...

Q. Why are my mushrooms turning blue.
A. It's caused by bruising.

Q. How do I increase the potency of my shrooms?
A. Adding more nutrients to the substrate. IE:(WBS-h/poo/compost as opposed to BRF)

Q. What is the best way to dry my shrooms?
A. Food dehydrator, or fan dry them and then put them into a desiccant(Damp-rid)chamber until cracker dry.

Q. Why do my shrooms look all deformed?
A Deformation(mutations) are caused by genetics and often foreign chemicals such as Lysol and h202.

Q. How long can I store shrooms?
A. In a cool dark place they will stay preserved for as long as years.

Q. Whats the best way to introduce magic mushrooms outdoors?
A. .......


Thats all I could come up with at the moment...please point out anything that may be incorrect.
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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: Cubenisseur]
    #5340275 - 02/26/06 07:46 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

Q. Why do my shrooms look all deformed?
A Deformation(mutations) are caused by genetics and often foreign chemicals such as Lysol and h202.

Q. How long can I store shrooms?
A. In a cool dark place they will stay preserved for as long as years.





Above was caused by DRAMATIC fluctuations in RH.


Once "CRACKER DRY", optimal storage is in a air tight, or vacuum sealed container.
(because it does not allow dried fruits to absorb moisture from outside air).


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    #5340358 - 02/26/06 08:58 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: srgtm1a]
    #5340649 - 02/26/06 11:10 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

Q. how can I tell which h/poo is best to gather?

A. Preferably, unadulterated well weathered h/poo that still has a very high fiber consistency, that has no ammonia, or fecal like smell. It should smell about like good garden soil.


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Re: Common newbie Q & A [Re: agar]
    #5341132 - 02/26/06 01:42 PM (18 years, 25 days ago)

I was thinking of compiling information and doing the same thing. Glad someone stepped up and is going to make it happen, thanks.
One of the problems for alot of the ppl asking the same question is that they don't search the threads. This may be due to a techincal learning curve but I think it's because their is too much information that isn't organized.

Perhaps their should be a 'newbie cultivation help' forum broken down into sub-threads:
Acronyms and Definitions, (locked and updated by mods)
Equipment and where to get it, (locked and updated by mods)
How to use your equipment, (locked and updated by mods)
Supplies and where to get it, (too dynamic to be locked, open thread)
How to use your supplies(specific uses of tyvek, PCs, etc.), (locked)
Techniques(links to the existing cultivation techniques), (locked)
Common symptoms of problems and how to solve them, (locked and updated)
Newbie questions and anwers(active thread for the noobie questions to be posted).

Then make a sticky thread in the main cultivation forum called "Newbie Help basic Q&A", put a link to the newbie cultivation forum, and lock the thread.

To repeat: The newbies that ask the same questions are asking them because the answer isn't in front of their faces. Unorganized TMI.

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