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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9253115 - 11/16/08 03:15 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Now's the time to be bored to tears.

Seems no one can bring anything new to the table just old already debunked myths and practices. The truly sad part is that believe they are sharing something fresh and useful.




if you find something, let me know.


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: centerthedream]
    #9253128 - 11/16/08 03:19 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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you would be surprised as to how much "reality hacking" and subconscious programming you can do when you learn how to use the collective unconsciousness properly.





Yes I would be surprised. A zillion claims; zero results.

Did you know that controlled prayer studies failed miserably? No evidence of reality hacking.

Did you know that meditators for peace have had zero demonstrable success in crime rate reduction or world-wide body count?

On and on the fantasy goes...


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9253163 - 11/16/08 03:28 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

let's not let this fantasy thing get too far into our heads...


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: deranger]
    #9253168 - 11/16/08 03:29 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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if you find something, let me know.




Stay close to your phone. I could be calling at any time.


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9253192 - 11/16/08 03:38 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Stay close to your phone. I could be calling at any time.




Hacker.


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9253371 - 11/16/08 04:48 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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you would be surprised as to how much "reality hacking" and subconscious programming you can do when you learn how to use the collective unconsciousness properly.





Yes I would be surprised. A zillion claims; zero results.

Did you know that controlled prayer studies failed miserably? No evidence of reality hacking.

Did you know that meditators for peace have had zero demonstrable success in crime rate reduction or world-wide body count?

On and on the fantasy goes...




I want to hear more about these results you speak of.

    What is a controlled prayer study?

Tell me, how does one really go about recording the MULTITUDES of information in such a study or even tie together a study on meditating for peace? What, you measure how many monks are sitting there and divide by how many damn murders go on each day?

In that case, we need many more monks.


Trying to replicate matters of the soul, phenomena, or spiritual practices in a controlled lab setting makes zero sense to me.

Faith as well as love are forces to reckon with. You can try to measure them in your lab all you want but you will be hard pressed to find the specific "statistics" you are looking for.

Give me a dog that was once beaten, and I will raise it with love to become a great friend. It will have healed in totality.

Give me a hurt friend, and I will heal him with loving kindness.

That is my Reiki, and you will never prove that I cannot heal, touch, or sooth.

You ignore that which is so evident, because I can not lead a mouse to it.

By no means am I directing an attack in my words towards you OrgoneConclusion, I just do not understand how you can deny the human spirit.

Om tat sat brotha


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: shymanta]
    #9254358 - 11/16/08 01:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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That said: mushrooms will mess with your chakras.  However, this is not necessarily bad.  A high dose will probably blast open your crown chakra as well as your throat and third-eye chakras.  Once you have come down and assimilated the knowledge of the trip, realign your chakras.  Watch your energy for a few days.  It will be funky for a while.  Just keep an eye on how your energy flows and you'll be fine. 

I don't know about LSD since it is synthetic, but things like psilocybin, psilocin, mescaline, DMT, and other plant based entheogens that have a history of shamanic usage are not going to hurt you, but you must be aware of your energy and how it responds to these thing.  Also, don't do them too often.  You need a recovery period to re attune yourself. 

Good luck and keep your eyes open.  All three of them.




I never understood the concept of psychedelics being spiritual until I learned about how your upper chakras get blasted open. This connects you to spirit and I found I really like being in this condition.

I used to get bothered by negative spirits on mushrooms but never on LSD. Since I have been through a lot of energy work and other chakra work I never get bothered by the negatives. I have started making contact with a lot of positive entities.


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: Kupo]
    #9254756 - 11/16/08 02:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Wow! Just Wow!

How amazingly original to insert the work 'lab' where it was never mentioned. Do you know how many other 'believers' have done this as if it were clever?

An abused dog will respond to being cared for and not abused? Call the presses. This is proof of something.

Look, physical healing can be measured despite all your wrangling about how spiritual matters cannot be measured.

Go back to square one and try again.

Thanks for playing. :japsmile:


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9254912 - 11/16/08 03:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Welp, looks like you've gone and denied the human spirit again.

:pimp3:


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: deCypher]
    #9255696 - 11/16/08 06:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i wear blankets over my body like a ghost so no one can notice my spirit


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9255752 - 11/16/08 06:39 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I would call any experiment in which you are searching for results a lab. I'm not inserting it into this, you already did.

Quick of you to lump me into a believer category, I find that interesting as well.

Physical healing CAN be measured, yes. I don't disagree with that.

How about you go back to my previous post, and actually answer the questions I posed rather than avoiding them altogether.

Thank you sir


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: lobotomix]
    #9256493 - 11/16/08 09:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

My mom and step dad are both reiki masters.    The heat generated by their palms is incredible.  It actually makes my face break out into a heavy sweat. 

I have gone to my mom many times before with a particular pain or ailment but not told her where on my body it was.  Just out of skepticism.  She can find the exact spot EVERY time either by feeling an area of coldness, feeling electrical sparks in the palm or having an intuitive knowing.   

I have felt electrical sparks, tingling and numbness as a result of their healings as well. 

After a while, I couldn't deny its authenticity so I began to accept the energy and work together with it which makes the healing even more powerful.  Reikis effectiveness is codependent upon the healer and the recipient. 

On time in particular, very recently in fact, I had a vision while receiving reiki.  I saw my hand reach out in front of me into the darkness and I asked for help because I was going through a very difficult time.  A giant brown bear's paw appeared and I embraced it.  The next thing I know I'm walking behind the bear.  I followed it through some wooded area and we came to a tree with a massive trunk.  It was all gnarled and had a gaping hole in it.  I followed the bear into the trunk of the tree and down a staircase that emptied into a room with a heavy wooden door.  I  went through the door and was in a room with no walls or ceiling but was totally illuminated.  in the center of the room was a giant red sphere.  it was sparkling with golden light and I was told by the bear that I could come here anytime I wished to connect to this orb as a source of unlimited healing energy.  A vortex then extended from the center of the sphere and connected directly into my solar plexus chakra. 

An intense psychedelic experience of any kind can potentially have positive or negative effects on the chakra system, both short and long term.  It just has to do with the person and how in tune and aware they are to their own energy and how well they manage the external energies that the psychedelic experience draws in.


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: postanaldrip]
    #9256658 - 11/16/08 09:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Reiki has failed every single controlled test to date. Why haven't your mom and dad picked up the cool million? (Insert one of 143 TB excuses here.)

**Let's keep it about the ideas, please. ~ V


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9256879 - 11/16/08 10:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Reiki has failed every single controlled test to date.




So Im supposed to believe that my personal experiences are a result of some kind of delusional thinking? 

Im not looking for proof.  I already have it. 

Do you have any links or official testing results to back your claim?  Id really like to see them.

Have you ever had a reiki session?

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Why haven't your mom and dad picked up the cool million?




What cool million?  Reiki isnt an instant miracle like when Dr. Jones poured the water from the holy grail onto his fathers gunshot wound.  It is to simply balances ones energy field and chakras which results in a calm and peacful state of mind which in turn allows the body to heal quicker and rid consciousness of heavy and negative thoughts and past baggage.  These are results that cannot really be measured and may manifest days, weeks, or months later.  What are you expecting?  That a reiki master can instantly heal a broken femur or something?

**Let's keep it about the ideas, please. ~V


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: postanaldrip]
    #9257033 - 11/16/08 10:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'm still waiting for a response as well.


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: postanaldrip]
    #9258103 - 11/17/08 03:04 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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What cool million?




Couldn't be simpler. State EXACTLY what Reiki can do that CAN BE OBJECTIVELY OBSERVED/MEASSURED, then do it. Perhaps your folks will succeed where every other Reiki master failed/backed out.

www.randi.org for details on the $$$.


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: postanaldrip]
    #9258125 - 11/17/08 03:11 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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These are results that cannot really be measured



Anyone can be a master of unmeasurable results.

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and may manifest days, weeks, or months later.



I had a cold and stubbed my toe. Two weeks later, I was better. Now I always stub my toe to get better.

Gotta love cause and effect.


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9258260 - 11/17/08 03:51 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Or completely avoid answering me altogether, that's cool too!

Mooovin on


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: Kupo]
    #9258590 - 11/17/08 07:12 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

well i do suspect there's something to reiki, (although that something may not be very valuable, i do not know)

but i do know that many people ask way to much money
to give someone a reiki 1 iniation.

170$ etc....

i'm not going to pay 170$ :wink:


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Re: Kundalini Reiki and Tripping [Re: lobotomix]
    #9258664 - 11/17/08 08:22 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

My mom and dad would do it for free to anyone in need so I hope you dont think they are all like that.


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