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Akira
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Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms..
#5337635 - 02/25/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok so here is the casing. B+ on rye with 60/40 casing.

The veil on this bigger mushroom alread split, but the shroom is so tiny. 

One of thesmaller mushrooms in this pic has a completely open cap.

Am I going to have to harvest tiny mushrooms, or do i just let them keep getting bigger. I don't want any spores in my Martha either. What do I do?
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Akira
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: Akira]
#5337641 - 02/25/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Check this casing out, the pinset turns me on. Hopefully these grow bigger than that other casing.
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: Akira]
#5337650 - 02/25/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Those with the caps open should be harvested now. They won't get any bigger. It looks like you got a really good pinset from a small substrate. There's only so much energy available, so lots of pins equals small fruits. If you had only had a few mushrooms form, they would be much larger.
Off topic, but I'd suggest avoiding aluminum foil under your substrate. The mycelium will 'consume' the foil as you will see when you remove it. The foil will be full of holes that the mycelium has eaten. Metals absorbed by the mycelium will end up in fruitbodies, and aluminum has been implicated in alzhimers and other conditions. Just use a dark tray to avoid pinning on the bottom. RR
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: Akira]
#5337666 - 02/25/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I let them grow till they're all mature. The one that is open now is gonna drop spores all over. You can either harvest now and get less or wait and get more. Even the one with the broken vail is gonna get bigger, besides those are tiny as it is. You should use poo next time. I waited and check this out:

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Akira
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: gratefulgere]
#5337697 - 02/25/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Those with the caps open should be harvested now. They won't get any bigger. Gratefulgere said: You can either harvest now and get less or wait and get more. Even the one with the broken vail is gonna get bigger, besides those are tiny as it is.
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Its not just the substrate that made them so small cause i have a bunch of other casings from same batch of spores syringe in same substrate but using 50/50 casing layer and I already have 3-4 inch fat mushrooms and the caps havnt even began to open yet. This casing just sucked.
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coda
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: Akira]
#5337742 - 02/25/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think you just answered your own question then, it could be a genetic thing, or it could be what RR said. Either or you still have mushies heheheh, just harvest em and set some more pins, maybe your second flush will produce some bigger guys for ya.
BTW if you have some biguns that you want to harvest but cant due to other mushies attached to it, just cut the cap off (print that sucka!) and let the others catch up.
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Akira
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: coda]
#5337761 - 02/25/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Im definately going to let them get a little big bigger.
Newb question about harvesting (first shrooms i grow ever). Once I do harvest, do i rip everything out, pins and all? Or just the grown mushrooms and let the pins already there keep growing?
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: Akira]
#5337772 - 02/25/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yes, its best to harvest ALL mushrooms on the casing during your final harvest run (if you need to do more then one). Pick off ALL the pins, this helps your pinset for your second flush and will hopefully promote a more even growth.
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: coda]
#5337775 - 02/25/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh, btw, dont "rip" your shrooms out. Try to preserve your casings as best as you can. Scissors work extremely well.
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Edited by coda (02/25/06 11:57 AM)
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: coda]
#5337865 - 02/25/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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coda, I disagree. Often times, the pins for the next flush appear during the preceding flush. I may have misunderstood what you said, but if they're just small pins/primordia they should be left in place. Once the mature mushrooms are picked, those pins that are just sitting there will begin to grow. RR
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Akira
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5337904 - 02/25/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh OK. Are the small pins/primordia i should leave the ones that still have a whitish pin head?
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: Akira]
#5338042 - 02/25/06 01:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would dunk the casing after u harvest. IME small shrooms are from not enough water...try it, couldnt hurt.
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Re: Veils dropping - Small Mushrooms.. [Re: thekeeper]
#5338077 - 02/25/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gratefulgere said: You can either harvest now and get less or wait and get more. Even the one with the broken vail is gonna get bigger, besides those are tiny as it is.
Once the veil breaks, the mushie stops producing psylocibin/psylocin. Sure the shroom gets bigger, but it doesnt increase in potentcy, it just dilutes the chemicals already in there. So its best to just pick it when the veil breaks.
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