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Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay (update 3/23/06)
    #5335997 - 02/24/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

This is my first grow. Some things may be unorthodox because either I wanted to do them the hard way, or certain materials were unavailable and I had to make do. Here goes:

I have seven quart jars of Psilocybe cubensis EQ incubating in my water bath. I lost track of when I inoculated them and thus how long they've been in there. Their growth stalled for a week because I had sealed the jar lid holes with duck tape; they've only loose foil covering them now and growth has exploded.


The jar second from the left is a bit behind the others, while the jars second from the right is a bit ahead. Should I just wait until they are all 100% colonized? I figure if it overlays in the jar it will be fixed when I crumble and case.


Homemade humidifier, just 'cause I could. Made from old computer power supply, pc fan, tupperware, hose, and ultrasonic fogger.


The device blowing mist. It's a bit hard to see.


My container. It's a 35 gallon (132 liter) sterilite. The hygrometer is visible in middle, and will be accompanied by a thermometer soon. I plan to buy more bags of hay until I have enough to make a six inch layer. I'm staggering the hay purchases so I don't look retarded buying six bags of hay from my local pet store.


DVD for scale.


The top, with window for my ceramic heat emitter to beam IR for heating, and a big hole for the humidifier hose, and lots of small holes to balance pressure when the humidifier is on.


The vent holes, loosely covered with foil to prevent dust from falling in.

And that's all for now.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5336192 - 02/24/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i know you said you were doing things unorthodox but there are some things to consider... those jars in the water are very open to contamination! incubation methods can easily be improved! also try stuffing your vent holes with polyfil to help keep unwanted contams out... also your jars should also have a lid on them... preferably one with a hole stuffed with polyfil to allow ventilation.

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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: LochRaven]
    #5336230 - 02/24/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, the jars have lids alright. The lids all have one hole for inoculation, which I sealed with duck tape. Then after a week, I noticed that mycelium growth slowed considerably, and that the mycelium didn't recover after shaking. On a hunch, I took the tape off and just crumpled some foil over the lids to allow for gas exchange, but the lids are still there. Since then, growth has been really fast, relative to its rate before.
For some reason, even with my lax attention to sterility, none have contamed. I didn't even flame the syringe needle for the two jars on the side. I even have an experimental jar of whole grain brown rice incubating behind those corn jars, with no duck tape or foil covering the lid, and that hasn't contamed either.
*shrug*

Thanks for wishing me luck.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5336320 - 02/24/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Cool shit man, I can't wait to see the outcome of this grow. There aren't many pics of grows on timothy hay around here. It's a somewhat controversial substrate too (I think it works just fine). Best of luck.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: User714]
    #5338943 - 02/25/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

=( I just checked on the two jars I inoculated without flaming... I've lost them both to GREEN. It's just lots of green dots in one of the jars, but it's all over the place in the other. Funny how the onset of green coloration came overnight, though the mold was probably in there the whole time. Oh well...


I'll throw it in my garden I guess


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5339096 - 02/25/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yah you can see the trich myc in the second jar on the right clearly. It kinda looks like the chunks of milk you see when you dump out curdled milk.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: coda]
    #5339158 - 02/25/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Looks good to me!


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: liloldme]
    #5339163 - 02/25/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what looks good? The contaminated grains?


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: coda]
    #5354725 - 03/01/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I just bought two more bags of hay and gave the five remaining jars a good shaking. Just wondering, is five quart jars enough for four 20 oz. bags of hay, or can I use more hay? I'd like to use as much hay as I can per jar.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5357725 - 03/02/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

*nudge*


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5362167 - 03/03/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It's been two days since I shook the jars and I don't see any signs of mycelium recovery. I think I'm being paranoid, and I keep thinking that maybe the substrate has dried out or something; last time I shook the jars, there was duck tape on the lids, but as soon as I removed it, recovery took place almost immediately and was apparent within 24 hours. Should I just wait it out a little more or start over?


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5362538 - 03/03/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Come on guys, I need some reassurance...


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5362544 - 03/03/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I dont know what to tell ya, my jars are 80-100% 2 days after i shake.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Psychoslut]
    #5362567 - 03/03/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Could it be that the substrate is dehydrated? I doubt it. It seems decently moist inside, and I can see halos of water where the grain touches the glass. The grains do look darker and smaller than the grains in my slow jar, though.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5363771 - 03/04/06 05:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Just a quick thought, you've got Timothy Hay there for your bulk substrate. I'm sure that's not good, as it has a lot of Alfafa and green stuff in. You want barley straw surely???


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Jaicen]
    #5363931 - 03/04/06 08:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Can't seem to find any place to get straw in my area, which i surprising; it's frakkin New York City, the center of the universe =)


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5382527 - 03/09/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

So I started out with seven jars, and two contamed with trich, and three contamed with lipstick after too hard a shaking, and there are two survivors.


I'm gonna G2G these ^ to eight jars that I just PC'ed (below)


Meanwhile, the two jars that contamed with Trich seemed to have recovered; the mycelium grew right over most of the green, which itself had only spread to <5% of the jar. I excised any visible green, and cased the two jars just for the hell of it, with store bought Jungle Mix, which is some sort of peat/verm based vivarium mix, NOT potting soil. (shown below)



This is the whole rig in operation. Suspended above are a red bulb for viewing (I assume that the casing won't respond to red light, and thus won't pin prematurely), and a 150 watt ceramic heat emitter, which emits strictly IR wavelength light.


These are the timers for the FAE, humidification, and lighting. An interesting thing happened the other day. I plugged this baby into the wall, and five minutes later I heard an electrical spark from my dining room, and smoke was coming out of the wall, from an electrical socket. However, the total wattage of the rig is only around 410 watts, which is less than a beefy guitar amplifier, plus, the spark happened in an adjacent room from a different electrical socket, so I plugged the rig back in and things've been fine ever since.

I'm still a bit weary though; my mom is out of town , and I'd hate to burn the house down before she got back.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5382871 - 03/09/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

what in the world...

just make a double tub so u can get rid of all that stuff.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: Drone]
    #5383133 - 03/09/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Is the socket that sparked on the same breaker? If not it was most likely a coincidence.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis EQ on hay [Re: RedHusky]
    #5386565 - 03/10/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure if they were on different breakers, but if overload were what caused the spark, wouldn't the breaker trip first? What I heard was a spark, which I'm assuming is more likely caused by old, faulty, frayed wiring. Overload silently melts the insulation and ignites it, right?


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