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RemainRandom50
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My 1st Mescaline Trip
#5334506 - 02/24/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Date: 02/22/2006 Time Dosed: 8:00PM Amount: 260mg Hours of trip: 6 roughly
It all started with an a/b extraction in the ODD. Afoaf tried it and well, it worked out apparently. Scared that this may not work, scared that all the chemicals in this substance could just inevitably lead to something bad, and just pure scared that this is a new drug i have yet to try and know what to expect; on that note i decided to do 260mg of mescaline crystals (powder). 260 was labeled "common" by erowid. So i figured what the hell.
At 8pm, while still at work , i dumped it into a shot glass of water and downed it. Tasted just like a cactus, doable and yet a little bit nasty haha. But nothing like the goop ive read about. An hour goes by and im home now, nothings happening...no feeling. I think to myself "damn this didnt work, oh well" i get up and have a capt and coke. After the drink i get up, at that instance............PURE EXSTASY. My body is on a high EXACTLY like an MDMA high. I felt orgasmic everytime i moved, just walking mad me laugh and smile, i started talking to a friend on the phone and could not stop laughing and smiling. Sitting on the couch watching tv made me feel soooooooooooo good. My body was just exploding in different areas at different times, i did not see many visuals at all. just for a few mins i remember seeing swirlies (as on shrooms) but a more "pulsating" then just swirls. But i figured out why i didnt see much - the dosage was too small.
My conculsion on the drug was that if you dose under 320mg, expect a great body high. But if you dose more....you will get the visuals AND the body high. This drug is without a doubt an amazing drug, its seems street exstasy is a rip off of this drug. And to those of you who KNOW people who wont try X because "o its got all these other drugs in it or chemicals in it" introduce those friends to mescaline....They will get the same exact feeling and its 10x more natrual.
Next dosage will be 400mg in about another week, i look forward to more intense of a trip and some visuals to rave about. If you ever get the chance to expierence this, damn do it. Its now on the top of my list of best drugs ever. Literally, spot #2, shrooms being 1.
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thanks for sharing, I can't wait to try it!
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: jmg5]
#5335056 - 02/24/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sounds very intimidating I might order 500g of pervu incense for a friends extraction but he might try 120-150g of the incense first to test its potency and if it works there wont be a reason for a extraction.
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Yeah, low doses of mescaline feel VERY similar to ecstacy except more smooth and without much of the speediness and chemical rushes. I think mescaline also has a little more of a drunk body feeling than MDMA which is more amphetamine.
BTW Savako, the average dose of dried tissue is 20-30 grams. Hardcore trippers sometimes do 40-50. 150 could theoretically kill you. That's 5 the average medium-heavy dose. Do not let your freind take more than 50 grams!
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
#5335311 - 02/24/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm a total newbie to mescaline...
whats this I hear about somehow getting it from incense?
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
#5335838 - 02/24/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Divided_Sky said: Yeah, low doses of mescaline feel VERY similar to ecstacy except more smooth and without much of the speediness and chemical rushes. I think mescaline also has a little more of a drunk body feeling than MDMA which is more amphetamine.
BTW Savako, the average dose of dried tissue is 20-30 grams. Hardcore trippers sometimes do 40-50. 150 could theoretically kill you. That's 5 the average medium-heavy dose. Do not let your freind take more than 50 grams!
LOL man your a load of mis information arent you? Mescaline especially powder is usually taken at about 110g for good effects which depends highly on the potency, its reasonable hard to od on mescaline probably even more of a challenge with the incense but I getcha man dont worry about me i've looked into mescaline alot and I mean not just in one day i've researched it everyday as something to do. The whole it will kill me at a mesley 150g is a bulls shit full of ?myclium?. I've done pedro powder at 120g with no effects besides tracers now n then and slight gamma adjustment that made things that were light in color shine or glow with their colors light. Pervu is supposedly more potent and my new dealer is reputable with feedbacks that make me think but I dont trust the potency in any cacti product besides a peyote or Mescaline thats an HCI. I was thinking of buying the incense but I learn from the history behind me, its stupid to spend your money on something so unreliable. I wish someone wld mail me 50g I have special cookies huh well eh hmm?
BTW the two of us are experiencing a mescaline trip now off a friends source of HCI mescal hes running low and hogging it to himself but iunno mescaline is a privlege to me ever since we nearly drove peyote from the face of the Earth. I do appreciate your appreciation for my health and motives ill repay you with something just ask I might have it who knows?
BTW someone posted how mescaline in low doses is like MDMA but of course unique in the way its teaches you. I done enough for a mediacore high I have major tracers no ripples and a very good feeling that sortve connects to the air.. the ground it feels sexual. If I could id go outside and hug a tree but im to fixed on the forums and besides its been good 5 hours since dose im content where iam if anything mescaline is a loving & caring to you unlike shrooms, lsd, and whatnots. Truely mescaline is something more than any drug out there, its a teacher thats more than just nice shes the teacher who took your virginity and showed you the way the universe is by connecting you with it with everything. Very life-changing but not enough to change my ego, which I heard it was.
In a third person perceptive im saying I seen 2 out of 3 dose at 120g the two were very content the other dosed 50g and was confused that the others felt something and he did not that 3rd guy could be me and my money, which is a bitch now due to cost of living.
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"BTW Savako, the average dose of 'incense' is 20-30 grams. Hardcore trippers sometimes do 40-50. 150 could theoretically kill you. That's 5 the average medium-heavy dose. Do not let your freind take more than 50 grams! "
Wow, total bullshit.
It won't kill you. Do you have any idea how many (huge, full sized) peyote buttons people eat in some ceremonies?
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If it was true i'd been dead years ago and possibly tonight, but most know mescaline is a drug that doesnt use the term OD excessivly if at all. Also 20-30g will likely give you no effects to threshold effects and doubtely anything more than that 50-90g I heard is good for a introduction but i've done mescaline 3 times out of 6 that were somewhat to extremely effective and plan on doing 120-150g of the powder or possibly lower I doubt it though mescaline doesnt scare me one bit and the possibility of it being lethal is equivalent to a individual choking and dying on air lol its a joke hahaha. Erowids does claim enough of it could cause an od (im speaking from unsure memory banks here correct me if im wrong) but why the hell would you bother eating 1000g-4000g of powder, my god that itself is terrifyingnot because of the intensity but just because the work and mind over matter.. I just couldnt do it my word its ridiclous.
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im lost. people are speaking of taking grams?
shit that is ridicouls, are talking about the cacti powder? or the actual end result of an a/b extraction? bc from what ive read around 600mg is an intense motherfucking trip, i couldnt imagin taking GRAMS of it.
and yes, the resource my friend purchased from has an ebay id. i could inform you if i was pmed. of course, it was strictly used for shamanistic incense lighting.
 i belive it was 100grams for 40.00 if im not mistaken, i cant really remember.
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Our discusions were based on cacti incense from pervu torch green skin.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip *DELETED* [Re: chuck_lanuck]
#5336256 - 02/24/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i can't find any vendors which sell it as an incense. anyone have a link>? i didn't know mescaline was active when smoked, i don't know much about it.
the sites i'm familiar with don't sell it. where should i look?
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badlydrawnboy said: i can't find any vendors which sell it as an incense. anyone have a link>? i didn't know mescaline was active when smoked, i don't know much about it.
the sites i'm familiar with don't sell it. where should i look?
i wasnt aware of mescaline being active when smoked niether. is this true - anyone?
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RemainRandom50 said: im lost. people are speaking of taking grams?
shit that is ridicouls, are talking about the cacti powder? or the actual end result of an a/b extraction? bc from what ive read around 600mg is an intense motherfucking trip, i couldnt imagin taking GRAMS of it.
Those people are talking about cactus powder, but a gram or more dose isn't unheard of. I've read a report of someone taking 1.5 grams of mescaline hcl crystals and then eating peyote buttons along with it.
Definately not the right dose for most people, though.
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elgr said: "BTW Savako, the average dose of 'incense' is 20-30 grams. Hardcore trippers sometimes do 40-50. 150 could theoretically kill you. That's 5 the average medium-heavy dose. Do not let your freind take more than 50 grams! "
Wow, total bullshit.
It won't kill you. Do you have any idea how many (huge, full sized) peyote buttons people eat in some ceremonies?
If 30 grams of Peruvian Torch comes out to about 350 mgs of mescaline and the theoretical LD50 of mescaline is 1500mgs...
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Savako said: LOL man your a load of mis information arent you? Mescaline especially powder is usually taken at about 110g for good effects which depends highly on the potency, its reasonable hard to od on mescaline probably even more of a challenge with the incense but I getcha man dont worry about me i've looked into mescaline alot and I mean not just in one day i've researched it everyday as something to do. The whole it will kill me at a mesley 150g is a bulls shit full of ?myclium?. I've done pedro powder at 120g with no effects besides tracers now n then and slight gamma adjustment that made things that were light in color shine or glow with their colors light. Pervu is supposedly more potent and my new dealer is reputable with feedbacks that make me think but I dont trust the potency in any cacti product besides a peyote or Mescaline thats an HCI. I was thinking of buying the incense but I learn from the history behind me, its stupid to spend your money on something so unreliable. I wish someone wld mail me 50g I have special cookies huh well eh hmm?
BTW the two of us are experiencing a mescaline trip now off a friends source of HCI mescal hes running low and hogging it to himself but iunno mescaline is a privlege to me ever since we nearly drove peyote from the face of the Earth. I do appreciate your appreciation for my health and motives ill repay you with something just ask I might have it who knows?
BTW someone posted how mescaline in low doses is like MDMA but of course unique in the way its teaches you. I done enough for a mediacore high I have major tracers no ripples and a very good feeling that sortve connects to the air.. the ground it feels sexual. If I could id go outside and hug a tree but im to fixed on the forums and besides its been good 5 hours since dose im content where iam if anything mescaline is a loving & caring to you unlike shrooms, lsd, and whatnots. Truely mescaline is something more than any drug out there, its a teacher thats more than just nice shes the teacher who took your virginity and showed you the way the universe is by connecting you with it with everything. Very life-changing but not enough to change my ego, which I heard it was.
In a third person perceptive im saying I seen 2 out of 3 dose at 120g the two were very content the other dosed 50g and was confused that the others felt something and he did not that 3rd guy could be me and my money, which is a bitch now due to cost of living.
If you have to take more than 100 grams of Peruvian Torch you are getting ripped off. Majorly. In my experience 30 grams is enough to turn the whole room into waterfalls and and rainbow paisly patterns. On average this comes to about 300-350 mgs of mescaline. 5 times that aught to be 1500mgs.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
#5343314 - 02/26/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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From most of those sites it takes atleast 25 grams of powder for it to even be compared to 1 hit of good acid(at best). 50 grams is a dose where you really need to test the product before you, ya know...
"If you have to take more than 100 grams of Peruvian Torch you are getting ripped off"--------->id agree with that. If you cant feel 50 grams youve likely been ripped off.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: stemmer]
#5343354 - 02/26/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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stemmer said: "If you have to take more than 100 grams of Peruvian Torch you are getting ripped off"--------->id agree with that. If you cant feel 50 grams youve likely been ripped off.
I agree as well. 50 grams should get anyone off, if it's real.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
#5343432 - 02/26/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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elgr said: "BTW Savako, the average dose of 'incense' is 20-30 grams. Hardcore trippers sometimes do 40-50. 150 could theoretically kill you. That's 5 the average medium-heavy dose. Do not let your freind take more than 50 grams! "
Wow, total bullshit.
It won't kill you. Do you have any idea how many (huge, full sized) peyote buttons people eat in some ceremonies?
If 30 grams of Peruvian Torch comes out to about 350 mgs of mescaline and the theoretical LD50 of mescaline is 1500mgs...
Theoretically 30 grams of peruvian torch could be anywhere from 90mg - 600mg worth of mescaline. There's no way to know for sure without having it tested.
I'd be willing to bet that the LD50 of an oral dose of mescaline for humans is way higher than 1500mg.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Ekstaza]
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I personally would buy more just so I could test it first. I would guess that my guess would be correct that the dose would be in the low end of 90-600mg. Id still buy more just to test it.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Ekstaza]
#5343534 - 02/26/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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just adding a little info, the site you are reffering to suggest 60 grams insence powder as a usual strong trip. and what i have heard firsthand about the extractions of the said insence powder makes me pretty confident that these claims are true.
i wouldnt take 150 gr of that shit.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: A0999]
#5343616 - 02/26/06 11:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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150grams is just crazy. If it's anything like the last batch I got it would be around 1800mg of mescaline. My largest dose was only 800mg and that was pretty much enough for me. I doubt that I'll repeat the experience. I'll probably stay closer to 600mg.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Hmm... I had no idea that people were assuming an LD50 of 1500mg in humans. Surely this is based off bunnies or something? I know people who've taken nearly that without life threatening consequences.
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There's at least one nooker that said he took 1.5 grams of mescaline hcl and then chewed up some peyote buttons along with it. I seriously do not doubt it at all.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Ekstaza]
#5343736 - 02/26/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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In ceremonies, people eat 60+ peyote buttons. The big ones surely dry out to at least 2 grams each, and the old ones probably contain over 2.5% alkaloids.
I'm just suggesting that there's no way in hell 1500mg hasn't been had countless times in ceremony.
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From erowid: LD50 crystals : 212 mg/kg i.p.(mice) LD50 crystals : 132 mg/kg i.p. (rats) LD50 crystals : 328 mg/kg i.p.(guinea pigs)
Going from that, I am guessing that we are talking of a LD50 of at very, very minimum 10g (for 160 lbs, that is 139mg/kg) almost 24 grams at guinea pig LD50.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Jaeger]
#5343771 - 02/26/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Let's also throw in the fact that you
CAN'T RELY ON LD50 OF RODENTS WHEN DETERMINING LD50 FOR HUMANS!

It could be 10x that, it could be much less. But it's not 1.5damn grams.
I've got 1.4 on me. Someone send me the remainder (disclaimer: joke) and I'll prove your (Divided_Sky) ass wrong with flying colors.
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Ok, I realize this would depend a lot on set and setting, and of course the dosage. But do you think it would be possible to keep it fairly straight and not seem totally drugged out and weird, or even noticably very different?
I know this sounds like a bad idea, but I am very interested in psychedelics and have no places to do them, still living with my parents. I've done Ecstasy a few times now, twice at home and been perfectly fine both times... my parents definatley aren't cool with that stuff but I can sit here at night and as long as I act straight and don't make lots of loud noise i'm confident i'd be alright. I've smoked weed for about 3 years now, done E and also low doses of LSA and Salvia, so I think I can handle myself while high for the most part.
Of all the psychedelics I think Mescaline interests me the most, if my name doesn't give it away I love cacti and everything about them. I think I could greatly benefit from it and am really hoping i'll have the opportunity to finally trip sometime.
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If you want to get totally messed on mescaline I suggest that you stay far away from home(because you will be bloated and fucked up looking), not to mention if you have not taken LSD or a high dose of shrooms you dont have any idea why you might just end up running out of the house. More than any other drug, If you take even a medium dose of mescaline, you will become bloated and red, and your eyes will look funny and watery. Like lsd, and in second place shrooms or ayahuasca. DOnt do that when you expect to see your parents.
Dude, those drugs you mentioned are totally different. Even on a med dose of acid my head looks like a big red football with red eyes. I could get away with anything if it werent for how I looked. But the fact is, if you take enough to really get tripped out to the extreem, it lasts a long time, and you look like you just got the shit kicked out of you. If you want to be at home while your parent are too, try to find the golden mean, or just get all spun somewhere else. If you take a medium dose, its not like you will look less fucked up anytime soon. WHen I lived at home with parents, they always noticed how i was in some way different the day after even. I still looked and acted fuckin weird, like I had stayed up for a few nights. I was in good shape, tip-top, but by the look of it, I had a hell of a night. ANyone with a brain in their head could tell.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: stemmer]
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Thanks for the advice, I was thinking more along the lines of being able to act sober enough. Doubt i'd need to talk to one of them for more than a few minutes, unless something went horribly wrong. And i'd be in a dark room at that. But I've never heard that those drugs will make you look that physically messed up as well... besides the dilated pupils of course. Kinda strange that I haven't heard that but I don't doubt that your right either. Sometimes I really wonder if I could just pass it off as something else like i've done before, but from your description I guess not. I was under the impression a low to moderate dose of Mescaline wouldn't be too intense, although I do realize it would last for a while. Guess this leaves me wondering if the risk is worth the possible positive outcomes... and since it would be my first time really tripping i'm thinking probably not. Although it's hard to believe it could be that much stronger than what i've already experienced, provided I didn't take too much.
Just that I can't see myself having the opportunity to do that anywhere but here for at the very least several years from now, probably longer. Unless I get extremely lucky and have the house to myself for long enough... highly unlikely though. And from everything i've read, especially the Doors of Perception I'd really love to do Mescaline, although I am interested in Shrooms and LSD too. Well, maybe it just isn't meant to happen then... I think I could really benefit from that but who knows... maybe i'm wrong about this one. Thanks again for the reply, guess I could have read some trip reports and gotten a better idea that way but then again I may have ended up trying it if I hadn't asked more specifically.
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elgr said: "BTW Savako, the average dose of 'incense' is 20-30 grams. Hardcore trippers sometimes do 40-50. 150 could theoretically kill you. That's 5 the average medium-heavy dose. Do not let your freind take more than 50 grams! "
Wow, total bullshit.
It won't kill you. Do you have any idea how many (huge, full sized) peyote buttons people eat in some ceremonies?
If 30 grams of Peruvian Torch comes out to about 350 mgs of mescaline and the theoretical LD50 of mescaline is 1500mgs...
i dont see how this is proven true, afoaf a friend has done 8 pulls from a 100gram of p.torch powder, and got a end result of close to 500mg. and this shit was pure amazing.
on another note - i would NEVER eat the powder, from here on out i would need to eat only crystal form or an end result of an a/b extraction. i have never tried just the torch powder, looks WAY to nasty and just from expierence on the a/b extractions taste....i COULDNT imagine the taste of pure torch powder.
ps - ekstaza - 600mg............ MMmmmMM. Your tek was amazing, im looking forward to my next dosage in a week or so. Up it from 260mg to 400mg. I hope all ends well.
I must say, there is not so much money involved in this (from what i see) to make this work, HOWEVER the time you spend on it - makes the end result well worth your while.
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I stand by my original statement about dosage. Althought it can vary alot (I've heard people trip hard on as little as 10 grams) the average range that I have encountered and have heard from every vendor I have talked to or purchased from is 20-40 grams.
I was wrong about the actually LD50, but this is where I got my information on the hypothetical lethal dose.
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DOSAGE INFORMATION
When figuring dosages one must have several figures in hand. First, you must know the wet weight of your sample before and after cleaning/processing. It is also very important to record the dry weight of the starting material prior to extraction or ingestion. With a knowledge of these figures it will be a lot easier to predict present and future dosages, and help prevent overdoses or ( bad trips ). Remember, don't just consume so many inches of cactus just because you read it somewhere. A 12 inch section of 4 inch diameter Cactus is many times the volume of a 1 inch diameter piece. The total dry weight is the only standard of measurement that should be used.
The threshold dosage for mescaline is generally considered to be around 150 mg. An " average" working dose is around 300 mg. A 400 mg. dose has been described as an " entheogenic all day lollipop ." The maximum safe dosage is believed to be about 1000 mg. ( this amount varies widely according to individual tolerance, experience, frame of mind, setting )
LOW DOSE, 100 - 200mg A mild buzz, to good trip with some visuals.
MODERATE DOSE, 200 - 300mg Average dosage, strong visuals.
HIGH DOSE, 300 - 500mg Intense visuals, ego dissociation possible.
EXTREME DOSE, 500 - 800mg For experienced, competent explorers only.
MAXIMUM SAFE DOSE, 1000 mg Dangerous ground to tread on.
HIGHEST KNOWN DOSE, 1500 mg Mr. Death might be the ultimate discovery? http://users.lycaeum.org/~iamklaus/dosage.htm
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Divided_Sky said: I stand by my original statement about dosage. Althought it can vary alot (I've heard people trip hard on as little as 10 grams) the average range that I have encountered and have heard from every vendor I have talked to or purchased from is 20-40 grams.
I was wrong about the actually LD50, but this is where I got my information on the hypothetical lethal dose.
Visionary Cactus Guide
DOSAGE INFORMATION
When figuring dosages one must have several figures in hand. First, you must know the wet weight of your sample before and after cleaning/processing. It is also very important to record the dry weight of the starting material prior to extraction or ingestion. With a knowledge of these figures it will be a lot easier to predict present and future dosages, and help prevent overdoses or ( bad trips ). Remember, don't just consume so many inches of cactus just because you read it somewhere. A 12 inch section of 4 inch diameter Cactus is many times the volume of a 1 inch diameter piece. The total dry weight is the only standard of measurement that should be used.
The threshold dosage for mescaline is generally considered to be around 150 mg. An " average" working dose is around 300 mg. A 400 mg. dose has been described as an " entheogenic all day lollipop ." The maximum safe dosage is believed to be about 1000 mg. ( this amount varies widely according to individual tolerance, experience, frame of mind, setting )
LOW DOSE, 100 - 200mg A mild buzz, to good trip with some visuals.
MODERATE DOSE, 200 - 300mg Average dosage, strong visuals.
HIGH DOSE, 300 - 500mg Intense visuals, ego dissociation possible.
EXTREME DOSE, 500 - 800mg For experienced, competent explorers only.
MAXIMUM SAFE DOSE, 1000 mg Dangerous ground to tread on.
HIGHEST KNOWN DOSE, 1500 mg Mr. Death might be the ultimate discovery? http://users.lycaeum.org/~iamklaus/dosage.htm
The tea that i had drunk countless time with no effects consisted of the green part, which is usually the powder sold as incense by most. Th egreen part "fresh" is gooey and disgusting, it alone dired is very very tolerable than that of the other not only taste means but in consistency its so much easier. Thats my opinion and I forgot to include its alot more potent than any tea I ever made.
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800 mg and I went to a show at a festival (Victor Wooten, freakin' amazing) 400 mg at home gave me barely any visuals. 200 mg (my first mescaline hcl dose) almost unnoticable.
People, you have to understand that those dosage guidelines are just that, guidelines. Your trip can be very different from your buddies trip even if you both ate the same amount. It's really hard to recommend a good working dosage for all people, because we all are so different. You really need to start low and work your way up figuring out your needs along the way.
As for me, 800mg was a bit tiring. I'll probably stick to doses around 600-700mg from now on. But, there'll probably be at least one 1 grammer someday.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Ekstaza]
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Also, if I am not mistaken sulfate and hcl dosages are a little different. I hope I don't have it backwards but I believe 500mgs of hcl equals about 300mgs or so of sulfate?
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
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I don't think it's quite that severe, and it's backwards. I believe 400mg sulfate = 350-360 hcl.
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so if AFOAF was pretty experienced with mushrooms, lsd, 2c-i, and 2c-e, would 50g of peruvian torch powder be a reasonable place to start for that person? Or should this person chill out and go with 40g.
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Ask the vendor what the average amount is. 30 grams can be enough, even 20 sometimes. You probobly can't miss with 40 though.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Ask the vendor how much of a schedule I substance that they sold you to take? No.
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Koala Koolio said: Ask the vendor how much of a schedule I substance that they sold you to take? No.
lol. good one.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Divided_Sky said: Also, if I am not mistaken sulfate and hcl dosages are a little different. I hope I don't have it backwards but I believe 500mgs of hcl equals about 300mgs or so of sulfate?
QUOTED FROM EROWID: "The two most commonly produced synthetic forms of mescaline are mescaline hydrochloride and mescaline sulfate which have very similar dosages. Mescaline sulfate is 11% heavier than mescaline hydrochloride, meaning it takes 11% _more_ mescaline sulfate by weight to get the same effects as a certain amount of mescaline hydrochloride.
If an acid--base--solvent extraction is done on the plant material the result is freebase mescaline. Freebase mescaline is 15% lighter than mescaline hydrochloride (and 25% lighter than mescaline sulfate), thereby requiring 15% _less_ material by weight for the same dose as mescaline hydrochloride."
And yes - ekstaza is right - everything works differently for each individual...you have to expierement to see where you feel youve reach your high. 260mg (1st dose) was good, but i need more of a kick. next will be 450mg. But im thinking maybe 600 is the area that will do me good 
well see
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Koala Koolio said: Ask the vendor how much of a schedule I substance that they sold you to take? No.
I always ask them how much incense they recommend for an average smudging ceremony.
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Divided_Sky said: Also, if I am not mistaken sulfate and hcl dosages are a little different. I hope I don't have it backwards but I believe 500mgs of hcl equals about 300mgs or so of sulfate?
QUOTED FROM EROWID: "The two most commonly produced synthetic forms of mescaline are mescaline hydrochloride and mescaline sulfate which have very similar dosages. Mescaline sulfate is 11% heavier than mescaline hydrochloride, meaning it takes 11% _more_ mescaline sulfate by weight to get the same effects as a certain amount of mescaline hydrochloride.
If an acid--base--solvent extraction is done on the plant material the result is freebase mescaline. Freebase mescaline is 15% lighter than mescaline hydrochloride (and 25% lighter than mescaline sulfate), thereby requiring 15% _less_ material by weight for the same dose as mescaline hydrochloride."
And yes - ekstaza is right - everything works differently for each individual...you have to expierement to see where you feel youve reach your high. 260mg (1st dose) was good, but i need more of a kick. next will be 450mg. But im thinking maybe 600 is the area that will do me good 
well see
I guess I am a lightweight but 300-400mg does me really good. Too good at times...
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
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"I always ask them how much incense they recommend for an average smudging ceremony."
Yeah, I didn't assume you meant to ask directly how much to eat. But still, vendors aren't stupid, and a lot of them don't like walking this thin of a line. I've been told by a few vendors not to push it, and others warned before hand not to even come close to some questions.
I guess just analyze the situation as best you can.
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That's great to here man! I'm glad the mescaline came out good. I'm very eager to try mescaline myself. From what I've read about it, I'm actually pretty confident that it will be my favorite drug that I have done and will be even better than acid or shrooms.
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Re: My 1st Mescaline Trip [Re: pantsboy]
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You're probably right. But I think someone like you might be among the "needs a bunch of it to be really impressed" crowd.
Make your first dose 600mg. No less!
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RemainRandom50 said: i would NEVER eat the powder, from here on out i would need to eat only crystal form or an end result of an a/b extraction. i have never tried just the torch powder, looks WAY to nasty and just from expierence on the a/b extractions taste....i COULDNT imagine the taste of pure torch powder.
It must feel hella rewarding being able to dose on a drug that you are responsible for extracting. That would pretty much guarantee a good trip for me at least. I'm glad to hear you are doing extractions too. I wish I knew how. I've read so much about that shit, but it still is all way too much for me. ican;t follow simple procedures and have clue where to get any of the needed supplies. It's shame too because I'm growing like three really healthy peruvian torches and san pedros in my backyard. They'd totally be ready for extraction if I only knew how to do it. 
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