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Would this be good casing?
    #5334091 - 02/24/06 04:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Do you think a mix of horse poo,popcorn seeds,worm castings,brown rice flour,straw,perlite,trace minerals,spawn mate and grain.
Would do better then just horse poo and straw.
it would have more nutritious wouldn't it?


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Re: Would this be good casing? [Re: protected_son]
    #5334129 - 02/24/06 04:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

To many things in the same bag, often lead to the bottom falling out.

Top quality pasteurized h/poo, trace additives & optimal spawn rate does it - perfectly.


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Re: Would this be good casing? [Re: agar]
    #5334193 - 02/24/06 06:58 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Also, when you start adding all of this nutritive grain, this negates one of the best features of poo, its natural ability to fight off contams. Too much grain in your substrate mix and you will be forced to sterilize the whole thing, counteracting the benefit of bulk substrate.

Here's Wronguy's/Agar's/Blue Helix's "Perfect Substrate" recipe. It's what I'm currently trying and working amazingly so far.


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Okay, I'll share. Now the ingredients were compiled with the help of Blue Helix and Agar. There is nothing exotic in here, but it has a good nutritional profile. This recipe is for 4 large filter patch spawn bags. It will fill them within 2 1/2 inches of the bottom of the filter patch and lays out perfectly in 19 quart containers with a substrate depth of 3 1/2 inches.

The recipe is as follows:

48 Cups of horse manure (shredded)
24 Cups of vermiculite
16 1/2 Cups of dry WBS (do not soak or simmer)
4 Tablespoons of dry Kelp Meal
6 Tablespoons of Canola or Vegetable oil
21 Cups of water

Thoroughly mix all dry ingredients together. Now, add the water and mix again. Due to the human error factor on measurements, you may consider adding only 18 cups of water to begin with and adjust it from there. However, I have found that any measurements that are off are negligible in the moisture content.

After all the water is added, test your moisture content by giving the substrate a hard squeeze. You should only be able to extract a few drops from this, not a steady drip. If you find that your substrate is a little too wet, slowly add vermiculite until you get the right consistency. If you measure everything correctly this should not be necessary. The moisture content needs to be slightly dryer than normal to allow for the liquid culture you will inject later.

The final step is adding the oil. I prefer to add the oil in after the water has been added. I find it's much easier to mix in and doesn't stick to the substrate in one area or clump. Mixing the oil in with the dry ingredients will surely clump on you.

Load your spawn bags at the same time and make sure they are as even as possible. Now it does not matter where you mix this. I do mine in my garage. I know I'm going to sterilize the substrate so contaminates are less of a concern. Follow the tek by Blue Helix to complete it. I personally PC for 3 1/2 hours at 15 PSI.

After they have cooled just inoculate and wait.





Maybe someone else ou there will find this useful. :wink:


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Re: Would this be good casing? [Re: Premedman1]
    #5334197 - 02/24/06 07:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You asked about casing, but described a substrate mix. A casing should be non-nutritious for best results.
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Re: Would this be good casing? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5334205 - 02/24/06 07:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Over 450 posts and thinks that perlite is nutritious.

Unless you meant to say vermiculite, perlite should never be used in a substrate or casing layer.


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