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Veter
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Ridiculous Anti-drug site
#5333876 - 02/24/06 01:16 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://www.freevibe.com/Drug_Facts/drug_info.asp
Jeeez, this site is ridiculous. I cannot believe the lies in this. It uses the words 'can' and 'could' like they mean 'will'. ugh.
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Veter]
#5333896 - 02/24/06 01:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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freevibe, yeah they are full of shit.
when i read the post i thought you had found another one, but its just freevibe. LOL
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Veter]
#5333907 - 02/24/06 01:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol...that site is rigoddamndiculous...they told some poor kid that peyote can cause brain damage.
They have a faux messageboard where you can ask questions and it will be answered by an "expert"
this oughta be good if they answer what I asked...lol
oh and this is classic:
"Trevor (2/1/2006 4:52:48 PM) How many people have died as a result of marijuana overdoses?
To find out statistical information regarding marijuana overdose, you can visit the website of the Office of Applied Studies at www.DrugAbuseStatistics.samhsa.gov. FREEVIBE"
they are totally counting on this kid not actually making the effort to figure it out.
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Kaleidoscope]
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: shafty]
#5334015 - 02/24/06 03:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Q. How can I help someone through a bad trip? A. Don't try to handle this situation on your own; call 911 and a trusted adult immediately. While waiting, address the person by name, remind them who and where they are, talk to them calmly, make sure they're safe, and don't leave them alone."
fuck you, freevibve, you wankish assrammers.
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: indica]
#5334023 - 02/24/06 03:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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" We're all anxious enough about how we look without having to worry about the stained fingertips and teeth, stinking breath, and bloodshot eyes that come with smoking pot. People who smoke dope can look a little-well, skeazy. They might lose interest in their appearance. They can also get the munchies when they're high-and it's not exactly health food they binge on. They don't call that tire-shaped ring of flab around the middle of a pothead the "stoner's spare" for nothing. "
" According to the National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, kids who frequently use marijuana are almost four times as likely to commit a violent act-against either people or property-than those who don't. They're five times as likely to steal. So smoking marijuana can get you in trouble with the law and result in later problems like not being able to get a scholarship or a job. Back to Top
The people who profit from the $400 billion global drug business-and yes, marijuana is a big part of this business-are creep factor nine. They're criminals. If you're smoking pot, you could be the end-user of a product that may have been sold to help fund these people. Okay, you now have the facts. Marijuana is riskier than you think. For more information, visit "
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: indica]
#5334032 - 02/24/06 03:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
xk3m_indica said: fuck you, freevibve, you wankish assrammers.
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Chikitta
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Chikitta]
#5334041 - 02/24/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Chikitta said:
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xk3m_indica said: fuck you, freevibve, you wankish assrammers.
HAHAHA check out the "scenarios" page.
Oh fuck! I chose the wrong option and got busted by my parents! Then got sent to rehab for taking one fucking hit.
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Chikitta]
#5334057 - 02/24/06 03:39 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
What is DMT?
DMT is just another name for PCP
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Veter]
#5334115 - 02/24/06 04:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sleep is my Anti-Drug.
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Chikitta]
#5334137 - 02/24/06 05:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Freevibe is a DANGEROUS website. They are in denial of the fact that people use drugs, have done so in every culture for thousands of years and will do so for thousands more.
The misinformation they give is downright dangerous. They mix their *genuine* message (and they do have a point) with a bunch of blatant lies which are so out of tune with reality that the kids connected with reality (the ones who get offered drugs) easily recognise it for the nonsense it is. But then teenage rebellion comes into play, and a lot of the kids will decide that since alot of the warnings are nonsense, even the genuine warnings must be nonsense too.
So if you're saying that smoking pot is as dangerous as smoking crack, all you are accomplishing is that not a few kids confronted with potsmokers will decide that crack must be low-risk too and almost all of them will have decreased respect for the government.
Take that bad-trip information for instance. Kids are tripping and one gets very scared. That advice basically tells kids to dial 911 and inform a parent. So they do.
Police on the scene. Possession of Schedule I hallucinogens. The parents are confronted with one of their kids buddies being rushed to a hospital ($$$ and social stigma) with police involvement and their son or daughter being known to the police for possession of Schedule I drugs. The relationship between the kids and their parents will be severely damaged. The kids now are registered criminal offenders which can come back to haunt them once they will try get a job. And they might just get sent to rehab. School will be informed. What a nightmare.
And for what? Because one kid got scared on a drug and they were FOOLS to trust Freevibe's advice and involve 911 Thanks a LOT freevibe. The certainty of ruining kids' societal lives is better than having them experiment with drugs, right? Wrong. Dead wrong. And these kids, I assure you that, will never trust the official stance on drugs EVER again.
All that kid needed was some from his friends. "Hang in there. You're safe with us. You got to ride this one out buddy, only a few hours more and it will wear off. Don't let it get to you man." That's what he NEEDED. A cop car, an ambulance, shocked parents, mistrust by school, social stigma, rehab and a criminal record is what he got. For trusting freevibe.
And you see it right here on the Shroomery: when they grow up many of them have a deep-seated mistrust and loathing for the government, and the impression that all warnings about drugs are just a bunch of BS. In our Other Drugs Discussion forum we get to mop up the damage and meet the casualties of the War on Drugs.
The Shroomery, Erowid, Bluelight etc. provide the REAL harm reduction. And a lot of that harm is caused by sites such as freevibe and the official policy that's their dogma.
We can smile at freevibes ignorance, but it has a bitter undertone because freevibe destroys lives and harms society by the spread of dangerous misinformation.
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Asante]
#5334172 - 02/24/06 06:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah that call 911 is pretty twisted. But I did like it that they called drug traders "Creep factor nine". But I mean I don't rember ever hearing anything about this and I great up as a middle class kid, the only anti-drug stuff I rember is what I see now
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Asante]
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: drloomis82]
#5334231 - 02/24/06 07:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I bet about a third of the people on either of those sites use drugs themselves. I also bet that the person who started either of those sites lost someone dear to them cuz of drugs. And I also KNOW that this info isn't going to help ME so, i just feel sorry for those who lost someone dear cuz of drugs.
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Baelomor]
#5334237 - 02/24/06 07:34 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Club drugs, like rohypnol, are not always what they seem. Because club drugs are illegal and often produced in makeshift laboratories, it is impossible to know exactly what chemicals were used to produce them and where they came from. How strong or dangerous any illegal drug is varies each time.
CAN SOMEONE POST THE ROHYPHNOL MAKING TEK PLEASE>
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: rawtoxic]
#5334248 - 02/24/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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LMFAO. that site is funny to read. They are obviously trying to SCARE rather than EDUCATE.
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: rawtoxic]
#5334263 - 02/24/06 07:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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*shrug* if someone having a bad trip doesn't know to beat their friend shitless when they start saying "I'm going to call the police" then well, let's face it, the kid didn't know what he was doing and he had it coming... I really don't see anyone smart getting affected by any of the information on that site... Only the stupid kids who think it's cool to do drugs and think that psilocybin is a band (there may be a band with that name, but you get my point)... Maybe if the shroomery set up a "hall of fame/hall of shame" page with web links to good, trusted sources, and a list of sources that are just bullshit like this one....
Maybe if a dedicated member managed to get their own little site going dedicated to finding and exposing some of these sites? It's a small step but, well people would have to stumble upon anti-drug sites, why wouldn't they eventually stumble upon yours?
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: Asante]
#5334279 - 02/24/06 08:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Freevibe is a DANGEROUS website. They are in denial of the fact that people use drugs, have done so in every culture for thousands of years and will do so for thousands more.
The misinformation they give is downright dangerous. They mix their *genuine* message (and they do have a point) with a bunch of blatant lies which are so out of tune with reality that the kids connected with reality (the ones who get offered drugs) easily recognise it for the nonsense it is. But then teenage rebellion comes into play, and a lot of the kids will decide that since alot of the warnings are nonsense, even the genuine warnings must be nonsense too.
So if you're saying that smoking pot is as dangerous as smoking crack, all you are accomplishing is that not a few kids confronted with potsmokers will decide that crack must be low-risk too and almost all of them will have decreased respect for the government.
Take that bad-trip information for instance. Kids are tripping and one gets very scared. That advice basically tells kids to dial 911 and inform a parent. So they do.
Police on the scene. Possession of Schedule I hallucinogens. The parents are confronted with one of their kids buddies being rushed to a hospital ($$$ and social stigma) with police involvement and their son or daughter being known to the police for possession of Schedule I drugs. The relationship between the kids and their parents will be severely damaged. The kids now are registered criminal offenders which can come back to haunt them once they will try get a job. And they might just get sent to rehab. School will be informed. What a nightmare.
And for what? Because one kid got scared on a drug and they were FOOLS to trust Freevibe's advice and involve 911 Thanks a LOT freevibe. The certainty of ruining kids' societal lives is better than having them experiment with drugs, right? Wrong. Dead wrong. And these kids, I assure you that, will never trust the official stance on drugs EVER again.
All that kid needed was some from his friends. "Hang in there. You're safe with us. You got to ride this one out buddy, only a few hours more and it will wear off. Don't let it get to you man." That's what he NEEDED. A cop car, an ambulance, shocked parents, mistrust by school, social stigma, rehab and a criminal record is what he got. For trusting freevibe.
And you see it right here on the Shroomery: when they grow up many of them have a deep-seated mistrust and loathing for the government, and the impression that all warnings about drugs are just a bunch of BS. In our Other Drugs Discussion forum we get to mop up the damage and meet the casualties of the War on Drugs.
The Shroomery, Erowid, Bluelight etc. provide the REAL harm reduction. And a lot of that harm is caused by sites such as freevibe and the official policy that's their dogma.
We can smile at freevibes ignorance, but it has a bitter undertone because freevibe destroys lives and harms society by the spread of dangerous misinformation.
You should seriously send this to them or post it on their site.
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5334333 - 02/24/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah we need about all of us to write them an angry letter. NOT saying "fuck you you fucking fucks for fucking being fucks" if you write something be smart about it, educate THEM about drugs, and the benefits that they DO have, its not all negative. If drugs were nothing but bad news then people wouldnt do them right? There is good in everything, in fact there is more good than bad. Though some drugs, meth, heroin, crack, ALCOHOL are actually dangerous, but marijuana, shrooms, peyote, lsd? Give me a break, as far as I know no one has died form any hallucinogen alone (correct me if i'm wrong).
It's all about HARM REDUCTION people. Not scare tactics, education about the benefits, the risks, and what actually helps a bad trip.
Oh well no matter you write them they will just blow it off as "stoner rambling".
Oh yeah, I posted something on their message board and guess what? It doesnt go right on there, it has to be reviewed then added their by them. So basically no positive posts about drugs will ever go there.
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Re: Ridiculous Anti-drug site [Re: pip182]
#5334351 - 02/24/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well I just wrote this to them:
How can you possibly write that to help someone with a bad trip they need to call 911 or their parents? You guys got brains right? Lets see here... a kid flips out on acid... reads your site... decides he need to call 911, the police show up, he gets a 1st degree felony (5 years to life in prison) a crime record which makes finding any good job nearly impossible, has to pay thousands of dollars in fines, and why? Because of some bad advice that he read on a very one sided drug information site. When in reality all that kid needed was some good love from friends, or even his parents, and some relaxing music. I for one will never let my kids read your horrible scare tactics, I want my kids to know the real truth about drugs and what they do, and i want them to know that we will always love them no matter, and we will NOT call the cops on them. Why don't you put any POSITIVE effedcts of drugs on here? Did you even know there were possitive effects? If it was all negative, then why do people do them>? People arent stupid, sure some drugs are dangerous, crack, meth, heroin, ALCOHOL, but marijuana and other psycedelics? Give me a break. DO some real reserch, there are hundreds of medical documents testifying to the safety of these psycedlic drugs, LSD, Mushrooms, DMT, Peyote.. look it up. Oh and By the way, my wife smoke some marijuana when she was pregnant with our son and he came out perfect, he is even ahead of all the other kids his age. I know you just blew everything I wrote off, but I hope you at least read it.
Huh looks like a fucked up a few times in there... hehe oh well, like they will even read it.
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