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Dfekt
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Jadian]
#5334036 - 02/24/06 03:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's too late for that shit now... dominator society is too powerful and too set in its ways. We're digging ourselves into a hole which it's far too late to get out of. A few of us can join together and try to climb up the sides a little like in the 60s, but the majority will eventually drag us down and make us dig.
Maybe im wrong a some kind of new culture movement or wonder drug will turn everything round... but the unconditional love and empathy that came with the E/dance generation failed... the peaceful unity and open-mindedness of the psychedelic movement failed... if love and understanding have both failed then i really dont know what else we can try.
Just my pessimistic 2cents...
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Edited by Dfekt (02/24/06 03:23 AM)
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Dfekt]
#5334049 - 02/24/06 03:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't believe it's too late, but I think if people sit on their asses saying "well it's too late, so I won't do anything" then "too late" is bound to come eventually. Probably in the form of nuclear war.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Dfekt]
#5334054 - 02/24/06 03:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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who said it failed?
It just planted the seed. Its not about the drugs, thats what we have to come to realise, they are good tools, but they arnt the be all end all.
we have to figure out what needs to change and take the steps to change it. Simple as that.
It can be done, we just have to do it.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Jadian]
#5334055 - 02/24/06 03:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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We're the RC generation.
Tons of relativley unreasearched psychedelic chemicals availible to buy online... people will look back at 1995-2006 and say "shit... remember when RCs were all easy to get online? now you can't get them anywhere".
Until all the sites get shut down and the grey areas in the law removed, this is our summer of love.
Or maybe not.
Edited by Chikitta (02/24/06 03:38 AM)
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Chikitta]
#5334090 - 02/24/06 04:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can still get RCs online? I thought they had already been wiped out by the man...
The trouble is, as i see it, for significant change it takes time... a lot of time. We cant just go planting seeds and expect them to grow overnight, we need to nurture them for years to come, to teach our values to the next generation and make sure they grow old and strong like a big wise tree. The movements we've witnessed tend to last for a decade tops before they flop and wither like a malnourished plant, getting incorporated into mainstream or beaten down some way or other by opression in favour of the status quo. I think what im trying to say is that the best WE can hope for is to establish our roots, probably pave the way for things to come, make things better for the next generation or the one after that, as a generation we probably wont be around long enough to personally reap what we sow... but i guess it's a start. *IF* it's not already too late.
Edit: i think i need to lay off the metaphors lol
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Edited by Dfekt (02/24/06 04:14 AM)
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Dfekt]
#5334122 - 02/24/06 04:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nah, keep the cryptic metaphors coming!
Yeah you can still get RCs online from a number of reliable sites.. in fact I think I gave you a few of the better ones on MSN a while back.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Konnrade]
#5334148 - 02/24/06 05:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Successful revolutions almost always start from the top and go down. We live in very strange circumstances today: an oligarchy. A great first step would be to have the majority take the power back, and have Congress reassert itself and actually begin representing the people they're supposed to, not self-serving political ends.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Konnrade]
#5334189 - 02/24/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics
Too late? Konnrade you're not late: we need you NOW!
When the hip underground broke through to the mainstream youth culture, it got destroyed. Look at the Shroomery forums and you see the diversity and the problems that come with it. The sixties revolution got snuffed and what happened then?
We've watched ammonia, vinegar and iodine destroy a generation.
But end 80s, beginning 90s the ball got rolling again. The psychedelic revolution that rekindled now is beyond any government control. Nowadays we have an unlimited supply of 4-HO-DMT, our beloved mushrooms, which can supply the psychedelic revolution which is happening NOW with as much psychedelics they need. The era of Pickards and Owsleys has passed. We live in a time where you can produce your own psychedelics, growing on rice in a jar.
Read my article I attached. One of the problems of the 1960s that there was a chronic shortage of fuel, which was LSD.
Our current fuel, 4-HO-DMT, is a catalyst because when you produce it, it creates potential to produce more.
Two spores can turn a bale of straw into a thousand doses and two billion spores.
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Mainstream society brands psychedellic drug users as a notch or two above the insane. There is no flourishing culture of accepted use of psychedellics.
Konnrade: this is the exact same situation as in the 1960s. You can bet that three quarters of the people at woodstock were OTD-ers. The hippy ideal was wiped out the moment hip culture became mainstream.
Most hippies were all about getting fucked up, only they decorated that with hip talk. The core of the hippy movement had to see how their ideals were taken down not just by the government but more hurtfully by great multitudes of "hippies" whom absolutely did not care.
In 1969 teenage girls whored themselves out for LSD which they injected along with heroin. And what was up with "hippies" who boo'd and humiliated their brothers and peers who had fought and survived the Vietnam war? It wasn't all groovy in the 1960s.
The majority of the youth culture is *not* idealistic, not in the 1960s and not now. Don't fall for a romanticised image of the hippie era.
Konnrade, the Revolution needs you *now* and not in the past. Look for the thing you can do, and proceed doing that. One of the things I can do is be a moderator at the Shroomery, one of the frontline trenches in the War on Drugs, and that's precisely what I'm doing 
Don't worry about LSD synthesis, thats being taken care of. Don't weep about the demise of the RC's, they weren't that great and the ones that are will forever be with us. The catalyst of the current revolution is 4-HO-DMT, homegrown in grain jars, on compost, woodchips or collected from the wild.
If you want to be a person fueling the revolution, distribute sporeprints to hand-picked people willing to start growing.
The Movement is on steam in North America, Europe, Japan and Australia so focus on Africa, Asia and South America if you in any way can.
But the 1960s have shown that Psychedelics are vital, but not (like said) the be all, end all. Psychedelics are NEUTRAL, you must remember that. You can bet KKK people have vivid technicolor daydreams of lynching black people when they are high on LSD.
One of the HUGE mistakes of the 1960s was that they though LSD would make everything right for all. It was tragically naive and partly to blame for the era of vinegar, ammonia, iodine and disco that followed in its wake.
Psychedelics won't "turn you on" to what's righteous and good, but it can bring you in tune with yourself and through that the world, if it is used right.
Ultimately Psychedelics are mostly beneficial when they are taken with the right attitude. and THAT has to be cultivated more than psychedelics need to.
If you try to make people "see the light" and succeed than you are more valuable to the revolution than an elfspice merchant.
Now, in 2006, we are partly above and partly underground. We need to get back to the grassroots of what started the Psychedelic revolution: turning people on one by one in your livingroom or in nature. Be a warrior of words, spreading the Light in conversations you witness or are part of, writing a letter to the editor. Teaching friends how to cultivate, giving away Salvia and Cactus cuttings to everyone who wants to have one, whether they will use them or just like them as a pretty houseplant. Start a website, or enhance one like you are doing right here.
Gather a close circle of friends and do enlightening psychedelic Sessions together, working at each other's personal and spiritual growth.
Don't flee into a past that never was: Konnrade, we need you NOW!
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Asante]
#5334194 - 02/24/06 07:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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nice post Wiccan.
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Dfekt
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: dblaney]
#5334262 - 02/24/06 07:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shit man, Chikitta i didnt even realise who you were!
Edit: Wiccan
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Edited by Dfekt (02/24/06 08:17 AM)
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Dfekt]
#5334298 - 02/24/06 08:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ya i feel ya man... just viewed "Festival Express" and "...Live in Pompei" last night and ya i was thinking the same thing
but don't worry, one day the revival will come (hopefully before we are old dustballs)
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: swampthing]
#5334444 - 02/24/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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the politics did not come from psychedellics luckily the boomers were in a relatively rich and indulgent social matrix, only a few were killed for protesting on campus, but drugs did not make them rebellious. (many more collided at Tiananmen Square)
youth itself sees hypocracy, youth itself declares: "Hell No We Won't Go!"
this comes form inside because we are nauseated with what we see, not because of the more splendid nausea of drugs.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Konnrade]
#5334527 - 02/24/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I had this little theory once (well still do sort of)
The baby boomers became the largest and most influencial demographic when they came of age. Therefore they were the main force behind any change and whatnot. Psychadelic movement, hippies, good music, etc.
But now the baby-boomers are retiring. The largest demographic behind them is.. ta da! The Echoes (children of the baby boomers) I'm hoping the Echoes bring about some sort of change. What it is, I don't know. We'll just have to wait.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Asante]
#5334906 - 02/24/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Gather a close circle of friends and do enlightening psychedelic Sessions together, working at each other's personal and spiritual growth."
I love this line, because honestly I think this can be the most amazing and enlightening thing you can do with the right people and the right circumstances.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Jadian]
#5334937 - 02/24/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats a damn good quote man... That gets me all giddy inside. The era will come back, Peoples spirits will grow and it will come again. I promis.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Asante]
#5334952 - 02/24/06 01:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well damn... that was a very educational post, Wiccan...
Now I need to go think about this some more.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: trevorda8]
#5334954 - 02/24/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nah that era won't come back, but there's an even more important era ahead. There's a movement coming like none before, and you're likely to see several members of this community involved.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Jadian]
#5334980 - 02/24/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I getcha. I can feel the movement already. The air seems more fresh. the trees seems more green. and the smell smells less toxic. Things are getting cleaned by the rain.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: trevorda8]
#5335005 - 02/24/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea, my car.... I haven't washed it in ages... but it got a rain bath last night.
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Re: I always get the feeling I was a generation too late for psychedellics [Re: Konnrade]
#5335021 - 02/24/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think there is another side to this you haven't considered.
Yeah, they had a little movement in the 60's. There were also a bunch of things they DIDN'T have. Such as:
the internet techno music cheap japanese sportscars air conditioning in every building free music movies and software personal computers video games mdma, 2cb, and a bunch of other chemicals only recently discovered more lenient drug laws (in the 60's you could get 20 years for a joint!)
So, if I had the choice to go live in the 60's, I think I would stay right here.
The only reason generation x is prone to thinking the 60's were soooo much better is because our parents and other boomers always glorify it so much. I have a feeling that the time period wasn't nearly as good as its participants make it out to be.
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