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AkashaPrinciple
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What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)...
#5332733 - 02/23/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, some more mushrooms have just popped up in my garden, except theyre more typical mushrooms than the puffballs i found recently. Here are some pics:
These 2 were growing together:



These two are growing together, about 30cm apart and a meter or two from those other 2, they do look very different:


Im in Western Australia and its summer here (just incase you need to know for ID), anyone have any ideas?
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Edited by AkashaPrinciple (02/23/06 07:26 PM)
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Himejime
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: AkashaPrinciple]
#5332767 - 02/23/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bottom two look like liberty caps, others are some type of Panaeolus mushrooms..I'm in no way a expert im just here to learn also
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eris
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: AkashaPrinciple]
#5332784 - 02/23/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The top ones do appear to be Panaeolus.. they are probably Panaeolina foenisecii since they are in grass. If so, they should have a dark brown spore print. Other panaeolus species will have a black spore print. It can be hard to tell the spore colors apart and since the foenisecii spore print can be very dark brown, it is easily confused for being black. The bottom two are common coprinus, which aren't of any edible value.
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AkashaPrinciple
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: eris]
#5332802 - 02/23/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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so would the Panaeolina foenisecii be active, or at all edible?
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Himejime
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: eris]
#5332808 - 02/23/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good to know what threw me off on bottom ones was this picture I found on google...looks a lot like those
http://www.bioimages.org.uk/MMWSt/MinDSDII/1973/73-10/73-10-24/73J24PsiSem2.jpg
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: AkashaPrinciple]
#5332820 - 02/23/06 07:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If they are foenisecii then they aren't active
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: Himejime]
#5332859 - 02/23/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If the original poster had made up a complete description with spore print and all.. there would be a clearer way to actually eliminate genera. There is a possibility of conocybe also. Conocybe lactea and its close relatives can look a lot like that. The nature of the way the cap appears to be saggy and the very white stem, makes it look like a coprinus. With a shot of the gills one could easily separate conocybe and coprinus.
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: eris]
#5332975 - 02/23/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah id recommend trying to make complete identification posts it helps you learn more about what you're hunting and whats in your area and how to identify it, also helps people like me learn the subtle ways to tell the difference between mushroom species.
Aren't the stems on coprinus species a lot more delicate also? That would have been the give away for me...also spores help a ton like Eris said.
But keep trying man you will start to pick up more and more of this stuff. Browse the forums and read up on the actives and you will be able to rule out the nonactives pretty easily. Just stick with it and have fun doing it 
-Replying to AkashaPrinciple sry
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AkashaPrinciple
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: Himejime]
#5333126 - 02/23/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cheers for the reply's. I am making spore prints now, and will post pics and dimensions, will get some photos of the cap (gills).
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: Himejime]
#5333691 - 02/23/06 11:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here are pics of the Spore Prints from the mushrooms in the first two pics of my original post:
I put a piece of paper inside a sealed plastic bag, with the caps sitting on that. Left them for a few hrs:

Heres the result, and a pic of the gills:

Heres one with the flash, thought it might make the gills staand out incase that helps:

The caps are 1.5cm in diameter and about 0.5 cm high. The stems were about 4cm long.
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: AkashaPrinciple]
#5333875 - 02/24/06 01:15 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm interested in seeing a spore print of the last mushroom if you still have it.
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: Himejime]
#5334150 - 02/24/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The prints look brown to me, indicating panaeolina.
Your last two specimens look like Conocybe lactea, spore print should be rusty brown.
Congratulations! You have found and identified the two most common LBM lawn mushrooms.
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: shroomydan]
#5334152 - 02/24/06 05:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Edited by sui (02/24/06 05:56 AM)
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xmush
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Re: What type of mushrooms are these (any chance theyre active??)... [Re: sui]
#5334329 - 02/24/06 08:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Consistent with some type of panoleus species. Although those look awfully black to be foeniscii.
actually, on my desktop they look browner than they did on my laptop... xmush
Edited by xmush (02/24/06 08:43 AM)
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