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Some Pan Cyan Pics
    #5331102 - 02/23/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5331147 - 02/23/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

one day ill try pan cyans. nice pics


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5331158 - 02/23/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Pans are not much harder then cubes.  The only bitch about cyans is paying attention to environmental factors. :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5331160 - 02/23/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What strain?
A few people notice very different experiences with the different pan strains :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: Jaeger]
    #5331184 - 02/23/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

To tell you the truth im not sure. I ordered the syringe from sporesource and they didnt specify a strain.


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5331199 - 02/23/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I can't really say I'm an expert with Pan Cyans, but the thing I did find out while messing with these is that they seem to grow best when you leave them alone for the most part. Seemed like the more freting I did over the environment the worse things got. Leave them alone in room temp except to fan them and you can end up with more than you know what to do with.


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #5331236 - 02/23/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well the thing is Pan's cant tolerate the high humidity like cubes can.  Pre pinning they can, but as soon as the pins show up you need to drop that shit to 85%.

Remember, like the cyan master teonan once said "wet feet dry heads".  You want to keep your casing layer at or above field capacity til the pins show up, then you stop misting and let the natural moisture wick up into the shrooms.  This prevents a lot of aborts and adds to your total yeild (as well as produce some nice mushrooms and hopefully a nice even pinset).

With this grow i set up a small "mono tub" like setup.  I took a very small rubbermaid (height was like 6 inches) and filled the bottom with about 1 and 1/2 inches of poo, mixed in about a quart of spawn, and then let it create its own humidity.  It seemed to work for the most part, however even with me fanning the rubbermaid almost once an hr i still didnt produce the pinset i truly wanted.

With cyans FAE is key, if you look at the truly successful grows you'll usually see a coolmist was involved for FAE.  These reasons are why its very VERY important to pay attention to your environment when growing with cyans. :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5331513 - 02/23/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

When is FAE most important for cyans, pre or post pinning? Or is it an all around you should do it kinda thing? And pan cyan myc is really wispy, right, so how can you tell when the casing layer is properly colonized? Heh, sorry to badger you like this, didn't mean to turn your post into a quiz, but I too would eventually like to harvest the power of pan cyans. Anyways, good job at getting this finicky mushies to grow, hope you and you friends have a great trip.


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5332182 - 02/23/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Coda-I ran things along in the same manner you did. Only I didn't really have any problem getting a good pinset any of the times. Might just be luck, but I was able to get enough mushies for about 130 00-sized gel caps off each flush. I never tried em, but all who have say they are amazing. Two gel caps and they are done for.


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5332234 - 02/23/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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When is FAE most important for cyans, pre or post pinning?  Or is it an all around you should do it kinda thing?  And pan cyan myc is really wispy, right, so how can you tell when the casing layer is properly colonized?  Heh, sorry to badger you like this, didn't mean to turn your post into a quiz, but I too would eventually like to harvest the power of pan cyans.  Anyways, good job at getting this finicky mushies to grow, hope you and you friends have a great trip.




FAE is important at all stages of growth during he pan cycle.  The more you have the better off you are, pans are very sensitive to their enviornment so if anything is off it will show.

You'll also be able to tell about the casing layer by sight, the casing layer will colonize like cubes do but with wispier myc.  You'll know when is the right time to fruit, generally cyans dont need to incubate for more then 24 hrs due to the extremely thin casing layer.  I let mine sit for 48 just to be sure i got the majority of it covered.  My casings are 50/50 verm/peat
Rider- You must be very lucky, a lot of experienced growers have to do multiple trays to get one to fruit properly.  However harvesting 65 grams per flush seems to be a bit farfetched for me (130 00 caps @ .5 gms per cap = 65 grams), however my math could be wrong on this one.  Most people are lucky to see 30% of a strong cubensis harvest, ill be happy if i get 3 grams dried out of all of this. :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5332246 - 02/23/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

ahhhh very cool thanks for sharing, I got some LC going  :thumbup:

So I am waiting for my first pan grow :grin:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5332451 - 02/23/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

good luck man, they're definitely worth the effort :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5332609 - 02/23/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Those look nice Coda
Pans were easy for me, i had a nice crop the first try :smile: :mushroom2:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: OldSpice]
    #5332669 - 02/23/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks, im sure i could have achieved a better crop if i went with some more conventional methods, but i tried to experiment a little with this one a bit.  My experiment worked in that i should have enough to dose my friends and i, but it failed in that it didnt produce the pinset nor mushroom size i truly wanted.

Always next time tho :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5332716 - 02/23/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, there so petite!!

Thanks for sharing.


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: Cubenisseur]
    #5332955 - 02/23/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well a few things. It took alot of failing before I got what I did, but then it was like I could do no wrong. Also, my caps would only fit .4 grams and I was fruiting out of a 20 gallon container. I seriously couldn't grab just one mushy. I had to pick tens at a time.

P.S. I should probably know this but what is FAE?


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #5332973 - 02/23/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

FAE=Fresh Air Exchange :grin:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #5333252 - 02/23/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Well a few things. It took alot of failing before I got what I did, but then it was like I could do no wrong. Also, my caps would only fit .4 grams and I was fruiting out of a 20 gallon container. I seriously couldn't grab just one mushy. I had to pick tens at a time.

P.S. I should probably know this but what is FAE?




You have some good luck for sure then, to tell you the truth with this grow i had no idea what my rh was.  I just went by feel almost, didnt get too bad of a result, i managed to fill 1 and 1/2 trays tonight.  Ill post a dry weight in a day or two :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5333663 - 02/23/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

coda ready for 20 questions.. :smile: did you use MS or LC to knock up your spawn?  if LC what mix did you use, and how long did it take till it was ready to use?  did you shake your jar of spawn at all? how long did the jar take to get 100%? did you use any specific TEC or just a basic spawn to poo and case? just wondering cuz i got my pan syringe on wen, and made up some LC just looking for a timeline. ok so it was only 6 questions, but thanks for any input.

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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: willmafingerdo]
    #5333808 - 02/24/06 12:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Nice pics. Just goes to show you how hard it is to pick these out in the wild :mushroom2:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: DIRTYMAN]
    #5334687 - 02/24/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'll probably get an argument from someone here, but I couldn't get things to work right when I tried to use any sort of grow chamber with trays. I tried everything from having the lid fully closed as with the cubes to leaving it a bit open with a fan blowing fresh air in. Nothing gave me more than a handful of mushies. Once I tried the neglect type approach I had all I needed. Now I don't think they ever got as tall as some of the pics I've seen of the really good flushes, but they were wall to wall. I'm going to start another grow in a day or two to see if I can replicate things again. I will post my pics and progress. The only difference will be that I'm using Jamacian strain this time and had Hawiian last time. Keep your eye out for it in the next 3-4 days.


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5336012 - 02/24/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Coda,

Is that a double A or a triple A Duracell? I cant quite tell from the pic.


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #5336809 - 02/25/06 01:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wilma- It was a MS innoc, shaken lightly after 7 days and again after 10 days.  Full colonization was 11-12 days but i always let jars sit for at least two weeks before i think about spawning them.  No specific tek followed really, just made sure to keep the poo to about an inch and a 1/2 depth, shredded it as fine as i could with my hands, added it to the tub, and then mixed in a quart of spawn as carefully and as evenly as i could.  The length of time should roughly equal a cubensis grow, so you're looking at around a month give or take with MS and about 20-25 days with an LC.

Dirtyman- Thanks :smile:

Rider- Technically the long ass stems with tiny caps is an undesirable trait due to high levels of c02 in your grow chamber.  Im actually looking to get flushes akin to blue helixes, nice wide caps, and a bit more stout stems.

Fick_duck- Tis a triple A battery, told you these guys were tiny :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5336818 - 02/25/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Oh yah, for those who dont know, remember cyan myc is VERY fragile and when harvesting the mushrooms you cant get around using a scissor. If you pull you'll more often then not take up huuuuuge chunks of substrate.

So if you want to keep your trays fruiting as heavily as possible for several flushes make sure to block the bottom to avoid side pinning. I purposely didn't this time and it was a royal pain in the ass (but worth the effort IMO) to get at all the guys in the side.


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i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5339631 - 02/25/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys, just thought id post up the final dry weight of 2.2 grams.  Not much, but enough to give me and my friends a nice experience hopefully. :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5339652 - 02/25/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah that's what I hear about them, it's not the size  :wink:




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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5339763 - 02/25/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

def not with these guys, the stems are so thin breathing on them crumbles them lol. :smile:  Cant wait to find some time to try em. :smile:


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i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5340553 - 02/26/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well I inoculated 15 jars today with some Pan. Cyans. They were Australian not Jamacian. Didn't bother to post pics since we've all seen what jars of grain look like. I'll give you a heads up when things start happening. I am using popcorn and incubating at about 76deg.


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #5341124 - 02/26/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I am using popcorn and incubating at about 76deg.




i thought that pans had teh same inc/fruit temp range 85/75 ish??


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: willmafingerdo]
    #5341741 - 02/26/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

No. Pan Cyans incubate at quite a bit lower temps. I've had my best luck with incubating at about 76 and fruiting at about 72, but you can incubate a room temp with some success.


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #5342906 - 02/26/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i always incubated my jars with my cubensis jars, colonized right quick. :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5343092 - 02/26/06 09:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Have you enjoyed them yet if so well....... :bouncysmoke:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5343099 - 02/26/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

not yet man, my life just isnt right now for tripping.  My last trip i kind of forced on myself and kind of wasted it.  So im trying to just hold out until the time is right :smile:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: coda]
    #5343127 - 02/26/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ah yes, I understand that. Cool, just throw us a shout when you do  :wink:


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5343912 - 02/27/06 01:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

wow... those are so tiny! i like the pics coda.


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Re: Some Pan Cyan Pics [Re: Hengman]
    #5344922 - 02/27/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well, i just harvested the second flush, and this time around the caps were bigger (lots of nickel to quarter sizes) and the stems were more stout. I also taped off the sides to discourage the side pins and managed to move most of the pinning to the top layer. Still had a few side guys but not as many as the first grow. I definitely like how fast the cyans grow, not even a day after i harvested i had new pins setting and growing fast.

Ive also been surgically removing green patches here and there, the cool thing about cyan grows is its easy to distinguish the trich myc and remove it instead of just cleaning the mold spores up. The problem with cyan grows is they never really colonize the grains enough to the point of leaving them closed to contams, almost every spot of green i removed had a piece of nasty dark green grain near by.

Depending on my testing schedule at school i may be trying them out next weekend.


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i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

-A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)



Don't fuck with the laughing jesus.


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